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    Quote Originally Posted by william webster View Post
    Well
    there's a 'do good' idea...

    plant the Moringa trees
    AS a "do good idea" and a NGO project Moringa Development will absolutely fail.... that includes Government involvement.
    It will not even work initially as a Co-oP project.
    This needs to be led by Industry Investors ... people who are capitalists who believe in Socio-Economic growth.And have International Marketing expertise.
    For example in the right hands 1000 Moringa Trees can produce as much as $1,000,000.oo dollars per year. That is no BS.
    It likes poor soil and needs little or no water once established,
    Moringa is also an excellent Organic Food source for Animals eliminating the need for growth hormones or anti inflammatory medicines.
    Thats enough ..... But the concept has been proven time and time again.
    There is a Socio-Capitalist company in Canada who is doing just that in Africa.
    The villages are doing well and the company is making money... jobs created and people living better. Google Moringa and become educated on one of the opportunities to make a change not only in Haiti but everywhere.
    That's enough of me...have a good night.
    Russell

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    Take the time to google the link on post #62... then ask yourself why with all the ''Billions'' of dollars spent on ''Humanitarian Aid'' did they not do more than use Moringa trees in Haiti for Windbreaks and soil erosion and not health products and supplements.
    Good night folks enjoy !
    Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell View Post
    I have to disagree about not growing trees in a short period of time.
    Flying over Haiti I noticed thousands of acres of fallow,agriculture land .

    In some African countries the Starvation and high child mortality was significantly reduced by planting the ''Moringa Tree''. Not only did the tree reduce erosion but the neutrants from the tree provided essential elements to feed the people and improve the health standards at the sam etime.

    This plant also provides Export opportunities for it's by-products.

    And last but not least it will help with rainfall.
    Moringa makes terrible charcoal!!

    Moringa trees can grow as high as 30 ft in one year.... but the low bush Moringa is excellent for Moringa Tea.

    I agree that Moringa is not the sure cure for what Haiti needs. But it is a start.........

    But, that is only my opinion.
    My company has researched Moringa for the past six years..... from India to Africa and now here in RD.

    Hey , it is only my opinion; for what it is worth.

    Russell
    .....good idea...now get the them to start planting, I have always said the trees are the beginning......Doc.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by USA DOC View Post
    .....good idea...now get the them to start planting, I have always said the trees are the beginning......Doc.......
    Not as long as poor Haitians need fuel. No tree is safe until alternative cooking fuels are widely utilized.

    Because they make "terrible charcoal" does not mean they won't be used as fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobraboy View Post
    Not as long as poor Haitians need fuel. No tree is safe until alternative cooking fuels are widely utilized.

    Because they make "terrible charcoal" does not mean they won't be used as fuel.
    This is the exact theatre or arena people and/or organizations should be dedicating their resources to.....
    alternative cooking fuels for the Haitian people. Highly agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caonabo View Post
    This is the exact theatre or arena people and/or organizations should be dedicating their resources to.....
    alternative cooking fuels for the Haitian people. Highly agreed.
    Don't look at traditional NGO's to do this.

    Schwartz's book was a real eye-opener: NGO's SELL the food given them for free by gubmints in order to get $$$ to fund their central bureaucracy and have a big % siphoned off by local corruption.

    5 million simple propane burners and subsidized fuel could almost solve Haiti's deforestation crisis in 10 years, along with much environmental damage. Buy, hey, that doesn't tug at the heartstrings of the TV public suckered into donations to NGO's who PROFIT from not solving problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzana View Post
    China was considered a hopeless basket case doomed to mass starvation as late as the 1960’s. It’s history during the 20th century before that was mostly war, chaos, plague, famine and government dysfunction.

    It’s prospects have improved.
    Comparing Haiti to China is something I would never consider a valid comparison. The dynamics and magnitudes of the two are so vastly different.

    Even in this thread there is no solution suggested that could work to revive Haiti. That is how far gone the situation there is from first hand discussions I just had with people that tried to help there for almost 6 years.

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    Besides.. the people who control the money flow in Haiti are more
    concerned about building new soccer stadiums then helping the citizens
    who live in poverty.

    A good friend of mine was deported back to Haiti from the USA
    about 8 years ago.. He makes frequent trips back there while living
    here in the DR and tells me life over there is like living in a bucket full of crabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CristoRey View Post
    Besides.. the people who control the money flow in Haiti are more
    concerned about building new soccer stadiums then helping the citizens
    who live in poverty.

    A good friend of mine was deported back to Haiti from the USA
    about 8 years ago.. He makes frequent trips back there while living
    here in the DR and tells me life over there is like living in a bucket full of crabs.
    and life in the USA is not a bucket full of crabs?

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    The main problem in Haiti are Haitians, they dont want change, they ony want receive everything but they dont do nothing, every body that was trying to help now is tired because they dont see any improvements, and a lot of them thnik in Dominican solutions to all the haitians problems. I have to thank that now they find out also a Chilean solution and are exporting there haitian same way they have been doing to Dominican Republic, actually are arriving an average of 200 haitians every day to Chile, wich is very good because very soon Chile will be in the foot of the Dominican Republic.

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