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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzan1 View Post
    PAWA still owes me money. I'm all good with NOT flying on a discount Dominican airline - peace and love
    These people (Shaw, Powell) put their reputation and money on the table... it's not an airline to be a dry cleaner for Venezuelan "businessmen" like PAWA was ... people who start and run successful airlines, tend to do that repeatedly... example: David Neeleman, Bill Frankie, Carlos Munoz, Lazaro Ros, etc. Shaw and Powell cannot afford to fail. It's simply not an option for them.

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    I could never fly on a Dom' air service. They cant look after any god damn thing. Will they look after a airplane????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post
    Luke 4:12
    And Jesus answered him, “It is said, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’
    But the remaining part of that bible text goes on to say (luke 4;13); "but if you score a mega-air deal for $35 plus taxes for God's sake take it , Jesus Christ, Holy mother of Mary you'll never get a bitch!!!in' price like this again my disciple. I can tell you this because i am God...i know the future, just dont take the 9am flight next month 12 June...its going into the ocean"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post
    Luke 4:12
    And Jesus answered him, “It is said, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubio_higuey View Post
    I belive this one will be different. With investments from William Shaw, founder and until last month CEO of VivaColombia and Viva Perú, and Mike Powell, ex-CFO of Wizz Air, the second largest LCC in Europe, this one actually might have a chance..
    I hope so...............but how so?

    The DR is already served by so called Ultra Low Cost Carriers.....Spirit and Southwest, and by other low cost carriers like Jetblue.

    What exactly is it that they are going to do to beat those airlines....especially on the DR/NYC route.

    The competition is welcomed, but they will have to step up their game if the goal is to crack the US market and be successful.

    Beyond their experience elsewhere, they will now also be in competition for the number one commodity in short supply for airlines these days.............pilots.

    There is and continues to be a shortage of "qualified" pilots......such that top carriers are discontinuing routes because of it. The world's biggest long-haul airline, Emirates, is cutting flights and mothballing some of its fleet.

    So either the airlines pay more for "qualified" pilots.....or they go down the food chain.........and that is exactly what many of the ultra low cost carriers do......they hire pilots with minimum experience.

    Thanks but no thanks.............I like to save money.....but as a high time private pilot for over 30 years, I understand and appreciate the importance of skill and experience.

    Good luck to them though.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by playacaribe2 View Post
    I hope so...............but how so?

    The DR is already served by so called Ultra Low Cost Carriers.....Spirit and Southwest, and by other low cost carriers like Jetblue.

    What exactly is it that they are going to do to beat those airlines....especially on the DR/NYC route.

    The competition is welcomed, but they will have to step up their game if the goal is to crack the US market and be successful.

    Beyond their experience elsewhere, they will now also be in competition for the number one commodity in short supply for airlines these days.............pilots.

    There is and continues to be a shortage of "qualified" pilots......such that top carriers are discontinuing routes because of it. The world's biggest long-haul airline, Emirates, is cutting flights and mothballing some of its fleet.

    So either the airlines pay more for "qualified" pilots.....or they go down the food chain.........and that is exactly what many of the ultra low cost carriers do......they hire pilots with minimum experience.

    Thanks but no thanks.............I like to save money.....but as a high time private pilot for over 30 years, I understand and appreciate the importance of skill and experience.

    Good luck to them though.....


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    JetBlue is not low cost airline any more, we could say yes to Spirit and Southwest, and Southwest serve only Punta Cana airport where the 99% of the pax are turist and come with vacation package.

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    Spirit airline only charges 38 cents after fuel and taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luperon View Post
    Spirit airline only charges 38 cents after fuel and taxes.
    Yes, but their margins on $3.00 bottled water is how they really make their money lol.

    Unless flycana is going to fly out of POP, they are going head to head with ultra low cost carrier Spirit on SDQ, STI, and PUJ routes.....and also with Southwest in PUJ.

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    Let's not forget that there are also other markets. If they find that PUJ to ROC is making money they will fly there... Direct flight. They don't pretend to be hub airline like PAWA wanted to be. Targeted point to point routes. All USA airlines fly from one or two gateways to the DR. What I believe could be sucecsfull is for example once or twice weekly PUJ to ROC for example (I haven't researched that route so it's just something I made up). It could be Detroit, Kansas City, whatever... The point is it will be point to point flying, and not every day most likely for most of the routes. Plus they could fly to Central and South America, tickets there are very expensive. Dominicans can now go to Colombia Perú and Brazil without visa. I see them opening some routes there. Plus there is a strong demand to the DR from those countries, enough to have several weekly flights to each and actually fill them.

    @playacribe2... Yes, pilots will be an issue. A super Airfleets.net, they have 1 x A320. I suppose they are staffed for those. They can very well start with that one, but I expect them to get one more A320 before they do. They don't need more to start, and for that one additional aircraft they would need 8 to 10 pilots if we calculate with 10 to 12 hour daily utilization @ 30 days and 80 hours per pilot. I think they can get 10 pilots by the end of the year.

    Everyone needs to take these press releases with reserve. Viva Colombia is at 12 aircraft after 9 years with tremendous growth and huge aviation amekrt in Colombia. Viva Perú had 2 now 1 x A320. Those 25 aircraft are a dream but reality will be about half of that in 8 to 10 years given this market.

    Because this market has one very serious problem that causes impediment to more traffic, same problem as Canada has... Huge taxes. Just look at this Wingo PUJ BOG PUJ screenshot below... Taxes are 150% of base fare, and taxes do not include any ridiculous hidden fuel surcharges as is frequently the case with other airlines.
    Last edited by rubio_higuey; 05-16-2018 at 08:45 PM.

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