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    Quote Originally Posted by franco1111 View Post
    This cannot be right. Tourism in the Caribbean should be harnessed in such a way that it becomes less about numbers and more about delivering lasting nation-wide social and economic growth. That is to say, be of greater benefit to the small and medium-size businesses and individuals who make up 80% of the industry in the region; result in genuine human resource development; enable many more Caribbean people to graduate to management positions; and be encouraged to promote an authentic national identity in all that it offers to visitors.
    This is a polyanic phallacy. Take the DR for instance. Less than 5% of kids that attend high school graduate. The DR does very little to promote education of its own citizens. The teachers here do not know how to teach or even what to teach at grade school levels. If the government doesn't want to improve "human resource development" how can anyone expect tourism dollars to do it.

    Unfortunately, there are relatively few individuals in the region giving serious thought to the long-term future of the industry and how it might utilise its present earning capacity to create a sustainable social and economic base far into the future.
    First find a way to stop the politicos from stealing all the money then you will have some funds to create an economic base. The economic base in the DR is corruption.

    In this respect Minister Bartlett is quite unlike his counterparts in the region. He believes passionately that the Caribbean can no longer take for granted its position as a premier global destination and feels that the industry must expand its international market share by ensuring tourism is deeply rooted in the region’s culture and is made more beneficial to local communities.
    This is laughable. Ideally sure. Practically never happening. Think about all the "local communities" between Puerta Plata and Nagua. Again, the pols stealing every penny they can and the communities burning tires and blocking Highway 5 every now and again in protest and nothing changes.

    In practical terms, he suggests that the region must now work to determine how to obtain the maximum social benefit from the sector, and capture more of the tourism dollar though much greater economic integration.
    Hmmm, economic integration....hmmm. Any money is economically integrated into the pockets of the corrupt officials.

    What's needed is a form of economic nationalism that recognises that in the face of globalisation, small nations need to retain and find ways of leveraging their identity to the long-term value of their own people.
    Good Luck.

    Given the new dimensions of tourism, it is a development thats time has come.
    Signed, Alice in Wonderland

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos View Post
    More Caribbean but can be applicable to the DR depending on where the next few posts take us.
    Of course it is applicable to the DR given the DR's dependence in some areas on the tourist industry and government's interest in promoting it.

    And, without making any other more complicated explanation, here is a quote from the article. "The consequence is that before long what is on offer will become hard to differentiate with the owners of the ‘hardware’ offering similar experiences in all warm-water destinations whether they be in the Maldives, Fiji, Barbados or the Dominican Republic."

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    I might be wrong but seems most of the tourist in the Dom Rep are European or Canadian. Not many charters from the USA. Flights coming from the US are full of Dominicans spending money locally. These are the same that send remittances. So for the AI’s it is a matter of getting charter flights in and out of the tourist airports. Most tourist want a direct flight and Cancun does a good job at courting them. In the early 90’s Auruba had a big charter/travel agent clientele in Boston. Not so big anymore. With the choices out there many go to a DR AI once. My friends had nothing good to say except the beach was nice. All went to Punta Cana against my warning. 

    Bottom line is. The resort offering the best food and service at a fair price would be what my crowd of people are looking for. I have friends dropping 30K at Beaches T&C for a family of 4 and others settling in Barbados with a time share. With the internet and more information there are many places to go other than AI’s. Let’s see what the millennials go for in the upcoming years. I doubt with the information out there the DR will be their first choice......

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    The DR mostly has AI hotels and that only attracts the cheapos who hardly spend any money outside the gates.
    To be honest the DR has not much to offer besides beautiful beaches and golf.
    Sorry I forgot the beautiful chicas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    I might be wrong but seems most of the tourist in the Dom Rep are European or Canadian. Not many charters from the USA. Flights coming from the US are full of Dominicans spending money locally. These are the same that send remittances. So for the AI’s it is a matter of getting charter flights in and out of the tourist airports. Most tourist want a direct flight and Cancun does a good job at courting them. In the early 90’s Auruba had a big charter/travel agent clientele in Boston. Not so big anymore. With the choices out there many go to a DR AI once. My friends had nothing good to say except the beach was nice. All went to Punta Cana against my warning. 

    Bottom line is. The resort offering the best food and service at a fair price would be what my crowd of people are looking for. I have friends dropping 30K at Beaches T&C for a family of 4 and others settling in Barbados with a time share. With the internet and more information there are many places to go other than AI’s. Let’s see what the millennials go for in the upcoming years. I doubt with the information out there the DR will be their first choice......
    The best food and service is not in general the DR. There is one resort I can think of that is up to that.

    The writer quoted in the first post is dreaming in Technicolor if he thinks the current tourism business will leave more money in country. If the governments make such rules, the companies will just focus on other countries. What is new today is old tomorrow. The DR should enjoy its popularity while it can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by windeguy View Post
    The best food and service is not in general the DR. There is one resort I can think of that is up to that.

    The writer quoted in the first post is dreaming in Technicolor if he thinks the current tourism business will leave more money in country. If the governments make such rules, the companies will just focus on other countries. What is new today is old tomorrow. The DR should enjoy its popularity while it can.
    absolutely true. there is the little matter of the tourism life cycle, which concludes that when the popolarity of a tourist destination wanes, it never recovers. the big problem that land based tourism has is cruise ships....

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank recktenwald View Post
    The DR mostly has AI hotels and that only attracts the cheapos who hardly spend any money outside the gates.
    To be honest the DR has not much to offer besides beautiful beaches and golf.
    Sorry I forgot the beautiful chicas.
    While I somewhat agree with you regarding the Ali's I feel that is mostly down in Punta Cana, where they tell you not to leave the resort due to danger. My first 2 trips to the DR were roughly 15 years ago both in Punta Cana. AI's aren't my thing I am daring & adventurous. After doing some research I with my daughter hit an AI on the north coast then another year at Lifestyle Costambar. Again not really my thing but We did venture out on excursions. I felt safer staying at AI's with my daughter plus other family. Finally after research and just liking the north coast plus a long overdue divorce, I with my brother decided to go to Cabarete. I have since been to Cabarete 8 years or so in a row. I love it, my daughter is older and joins me for a week or so, my job allows me to stay for a longer period. I find the north coast offers a ton of things to do kiteboarding, surfing, windsurfing, snorkeling, scuba diving, deep seafishing plus adventures out into the 27 Damajaquas, Magic mushroom, blue lagoon, plus much more just in the Cabarete area. The last few years I have wandered out into the Samana peninsula. Staying in Las Terranes, Las Galres, and Samana itself. I think it is beyond amazing an beautiful. Plus there are many great excursions or just hitting unspoiled beaches. The last 2 years we have gone whale watching, this year we swam with whales which is one of the best things I have ever experienced. I constantly tell anyone who is discussing where to go on vacation to hit the north coast. I love Cabarete, to me for Foodies it is a paradise. I am in the process of gaining residency and with some luck will be spending 6 or more monthes each year in Cabarete.

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    Punta Cana caters to those who want everything within the gates of the resort. Fun, food, drinks, pool, beaches, everything a bracelet can get you. But there are those who want to explore the country beyond the gates. And that is where maybe the DR is lacking in with advertising.

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    Let's see where this goes. I think the DR potential to have extraordinary value and differentiate itself from other locations is great. The commoditization of the travel industry is due to the desire of the present traveler to sit on the beach and do nothing else. Why go to one of the most dangerous places on Earth to do that (yes that's the DR).
    What the DR does offer is unreal natural beauty, going from beautiful beaches to 11,000 foot elevations, to potential hiking, to whale watching to kite surfing, to almost anything. This does not have the feel of a small island and differentiation would be easy. If you offered a 1 or 2 week tour across the country that would be a dream vacation. The problem is the towns and the culture and the overall corruption of government and pretty much all the people. I'll leave it at that, but in terms of the DR being able to differentiate itself by the nature of the country, there are a million ways to do that. Now it is just allowing for those ideas to flourish without getting robbed blind (both tourists and investors).

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    When American's say "like to travel", it usually means the vacation experience where the most stressful part is losing your lounge chair close to the bar. While the concept is still in the wishful thinking stages, usually some website like priceline or similar markets a clickable package that puts the whole "Caribbean" experience into a 9 day / 8 night with plenty of lounge chairs and no need to venture further than the AI buffet. I run into Americans at the airport claiming to love the DR, but they'd just like to find some local money to bring home.

    15% sounds about right if not a little high. I think of the cruise ship docking with 1% going for excursions.

    When I explain how I travel with a backpack, no plan, and taking local transport, nobody gets it except for Europeans and Australians. I've given up even bothering trying to explain it to Americans.

    (I admit I thought of the lowly chica while I read that. Although I don't endorse prostitution, I can't help admire somebody who figures out how to put 95% of every tourist dollar spent back into the economy.)

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