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    Has anyone here submitted an older (pre 1996) marriage license in DR? Our drama goes on. We were married in NYC in 1976. Marriage certificates of that era are several pages long, page one being the marriage license, page two is the portion of the actual marriage, with all the signatures of the priest (in our case), the witnesses etc. We ordered it, apostiled it, fedex to DR, had it translated and BIL brought it to the San Cristobal office where our deslinde has been in process for THREE years. It was a requirement because when we bought the land in 1977, they only put Mr AE’s name on the title. We thought, at our ages, that it would be prudent to have both names on the new deslinde title.

    They insist this is not a marriage certificate, I guess because it begins as just a license. It’s probably the first one that old that that have seen. I called NYC, and was told I have no choice of another type, that it changed in 1996. I told her the whole story, and she said to have them call their office and they would confirm this. She assured me they have Spanish speaking staff.

    So our plan is to go there in January, in person, with wedding photos and the church document I have, and offer to call NYC so they can speak to someone there. I’m stupified that they will not accept the marriage documentation on page two. If they say it’s only a license once more, I may strangle someone. And they will not process it in only his name, as we applied to have me added. Can you say catch-22?

    So, are we the only old farts presenting a marriage certificate of that era?

    (And we had planned to finally update his cedula to say married instead of soltero. Again, thinking about the future, since we have property and kids that will have to deal with this someday. The thought gives me agita).




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    So NOBODY has ever had to use an older NYC marriage license for anything legal in DR?

    I was hoping someone had a bright idea about how to deal with this.




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    So basically they are saying your not married...

    Go down to the Junta and get married again.
    Could be cheaper than all the other costs for paperwork...

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    Quote Originally Posted by karnes View Post
    So basically they are saying your not married...

    Go down to the Junta and get married again.
    Could be cheaper than all the other costs for paperwork...
    Don’t think that we didn’t consider this! I’m pretty sure in order for me to get married in DR, I’d have to present proof that I’ve never been married before, or divorce papers. Takes me right back to where we are now. At their mercy.




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    Here is an idea. The people in the Junta Civil Registry know a lot more about marriage certs than the deslinde office. Mr AE will have his records in the Civil Registry in the computer system. He can take the marriage cert and have your marriage recorded there, then ask for a copy of the marriage cert and hey presto a copy in the Dominican format will appear. Just like my Dominican birth cert is in the Dominican format, converted from my British one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matilda View Post
    Here is an idea. The people in the Junta Civil Registry know a lot more about marriage certs than the deslinde office. Mr AE will have his records in the Civil Registry in the computer system. He can take the marriage cert and have your marriage recorded there, then ask for a copy of the marriage cert and hey presto a copy in the Dominican format will appear. Just like my Dominican birth cert is in the Dominican format, converted from my British one.

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    Should also have said with that Dominican marriage cert is a simple matter to take to cedular office and update - they will do that on the spot.

    And, what is more, they will issue a Dominican marriage cert at the Dominican embassies overseas. Here is the one in New Jersey: NEW JERSEY
    152 Market St. Suite 404
    Paterson, NJ 07505
    Horario: lunes a viernes de 8 am. a 4 pm
    Teléfono: 862-336-1900 / 862-336-1901
    Fax: 862-336-1902
    Correo electrónico: [email protected]

    Link to page on JCE site http://jce.gob.do/Cedulacion-Exterior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matilda View Post
    Here is an idea. The people in the Junta Civil Registry know a lot more about marriage certs than the deslinde office. Mr AE will have his records in the Civil Registry in the computer system. He can take the marriage cert and have your marriage recorded there, then ask for a copy of the marriage cert and hey presto a copy in the Dominican format will appear. Just like my Dominican birth cert is in the Dominican format, converted from my British one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matilda View Post
    Should also have said with that Dominican marriage cert is a simple matter to take to cedular office and update - they will do that on the spot.

    And, what is more, they will issue a Dominican marriage cert at the Dominican embassies overseas. Here is the one in New Jersey: NEW JERSEY
    152 Market St. Suite 404
    Paterson, NJ 07505
    Horario: lunes a viernes de 8 am. a 4 pm
    Teléfono: 862-336-1900 / 862-336-1901
    Fax: 862-336-1902
    Correo electrónico: [email protected]

    Link to page on JCE site http://jce.gob.do/Cedulacion-Exterior

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    Oh this actually sounds like it may work! Only problem I see is that the original certificate with the apostile is in DR, as far as trying in NJ. BUT...... every Thursday the Dominican consulate has office hours in Atlantic City (Paterson is over 2 hours away), and tomorrow is Thursday!

    Will go talk to them and see what they say. Will report back




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    There are only certain offices overseas which have the civil registry facility and Atlantic City isn't one of them, nor is the Bronx. Maybe you can get someone to get the apostilled cert back from the dorks in deslinde. And call the NJ office. Methinks this plan might work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matilda View Post
    There are only certain offices overseas which have the civil registry facility and Atlantic City isn't one of them, nor is the Bronx. Maybe you can get someone to get the apostilled cert back from the dorks in deslinde. And call the NJ office. Methinks this plan might work.

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    Atlantic City isn’t an official office....the consulate officers utilize an office in the Local 54 (big Union here) building one day a week to serve the many, many Dominicans in the area. I think they come from the Philadelphia consulate. Will find out tomorrow

    It’s also the official location for Dominicans to vote in DR elections.




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