Dominicans in US/Jobs

Janice

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So many times people have discussed the "impossibility" of Dominicans getting a visa to the US.

I was recently in Atlantic City and at the Foxwoods resort in Ct. There were literally "dozens" of Dominican dealers to the tables. I struck up conversations with several and their English was minimal at best.

Now these jobs pay from 700-1200 a week with tips, hardly minimum wage positions that Americans will not accept. How do these people manage visas?

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MommC

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They have a "trade" that is needed......

or they have family in the US already that have brought them in!!
Or they married an American who brought them in!!
 

Bugsey34

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is it really that easy for family in the US to 'bring' a Dominican in in that way, though?
 

Hillbilly

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It is not easy but it is done

Of course if a socialite marries an American, there is no problem. If a tourist marries a Dominican from a resort there is a lot of suspicion. they will make the people feel like crappo: "How much did you get paid to marry this person?" Or: "This will take some time,why not go back to the resort for a while?" Or " We need a Letter of Good Conduct from the Police in Higuey."

They have seen too many of the scams....like the one NoMoreSnow is trying to help her friend with..

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Janice

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You miss my point

Most of these dealers i spoke with had no family in the US, not from wealthy backgrounds and not doing jobs that required their "special" skills. They were working side by side with American croupiers, making the same salary etc. How do they obtain visas?

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MommC

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Either they weren't telling you everything....

or you misunderstood what they were telling you!
The only Dominicans I've met in Canada or the US with no family,no skills or no wealth were either "illegal" (snuck in from Canada/US or Mexico) or were divorced from their American/Canadian wife......
 

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janice, I have a suspicion that these casino companies are all hooked together and that they have arrangements that can shift around their workers. A good croupier is a special talent, and I am sure that they probably have a work type visa.

You might ont to see if that is so. Heck, next time you're there ask them, I;ll bet they tell you...

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Janice

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Didn't misunderstand Mom

Yes, the casinos actively recruit the dealers, but I don't understand how they get around the act that prohibits a foreign national from taking a job that a US Citizen can and would do.

These are not menial jobs that Americans refuse, nor are they "special" positions that only Dominicans can perform

The only thing I can figure is that they are initially brought over as unskilled "maintenance" type workers (jobs that the casinos have trouble filling) and then once in the country they obtain positions as croupiers. Some of the dealers at the Taj Mahal are making 1500-2000 per week (400.00 plus tips), that's not too darn bad.

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MommC

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I wasn't aware of that act but......

it must not be applied very often........
My son entered the US on a work visa as a computer consultant. Now I must admit he does do things that many US trained citizens would not be able to do (something to do with his using both sides of his bain at the same time??) when he got his work visa he didn't have a "special" set of skills.
Also take a look around Atlanta and you'll see lots of Mexicans doing jobs that Americans could do if they wanted to.
 

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I believe what you're referring to is an H1B visa which is for specially trained people to come to the US to work. If the job market is saturated with this type of American worker an H1B cannot be granted.
However, there is no law that says that a foreign national can't take a job that an American can and would do. I was doing human resources in Oregon and the only requirement to hire someone is that they can show they are eligible to work in this country by showing proof of citizenship or by showing a resident card (I-551) or a work permit (I-688B) (or another equally valid piece of work autorization documentation, these are the common ones). If the people working in the casino has one of these cards, it doesn't matter if they are foreign nationals or not, in fact, one cannot descriminate on the basis of citizenship status (for most jobs) and that is why one can only check a new employee's work documents AFTER a job offer has been made.
 
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Bugsey34

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I worked for a corporate immigration lawyer last year (meaning only H1B visas) and believe me - they give out tons of them! He had some of the biggest companies (mostly tech, but not all?) in Boston as clients, and was doing so many H1Bs that I was told to tell callers that he was not taking on any more clients for at least a year!
 

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Now this thread really makes sense.

Thanks for all this info. I was pretty sure that it had to be a work related type visa...

Hey Bugs, that is interesting...however, with the dot com fiasco, I'll bet he canuse a few more clients this year, huh?

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Bugsey34

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yeah no kidding... and even worse is the post 9-11 situation, because H1B visas plummeted after that, INS really wanted to pull back because of the economy (saving jobs for americans) and also the feelings on immigration at the time.