American Airlines 737-Max 8 SDQ-MIA question

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Just arrived back from a flight from Miami on a brand new AA 737 Max 8 airline. For the last 20years I have noticed that AA have utilised their oldest and most decrepit planes from Santo Domingo to Miami ( used to fly to NY). How come they are now flying these super modern planes? I wonder if they would rather not risk this plane within the US as its being investigated for design flaws after Lion Air crash in Indonisia last week? Anybody shed some light on this?
 

DR Solar

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Just arrived back from a flight from Miami on a brand new AA 737 Max 8 airline. For the last 20years I have noticed that AA have utilised their oldest and most decrepit planes from Santo Domingo to Miami ( used to fly to NY). How come they are now flying these super modern planes? I wonder if they would rather not risk this plane within the US as its being investigated for design flaws after Lion Air crash in Indonisia last week? Anybody shed some light on this?

Shed some light on this? Um. Your post is not well written and really makes no logical sense.
Over a dozen round trips on the Max8 out/to POP and NO ONE LIKES IT.

But that's not are call and we have no choice unless we wish to change airlines and change airports.

It is what it is so deal with it.
 

cavok

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Worst cabin design ever - even the fight crews don't like it. The Lion Air flight crashed 11 minutes after takeoff. Whether it was taking off in Indonesia, the DR, or the US, - that has absolutely no bearing on whether or not it would have crashed. I hope they do take them off the MIA-POP route.
 

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Following the October 29th Lion Air plane crash in Indonesia which killed all aboard, Boeing has issued a safety warning for erroneous readings on the sensors of its 737 Max aircraft. The Operations Manual Bulletin directs all airlines operating the Boeing 737 Max to follow “existing flight crew procedures to address circumstances where there is erroneous input from an AOA sensor.”

AOA, or Angle of Attack, refers to the angle at which the oncoming flow of wind hits the airplane or its wings. Though the exact cause of the crash is unclear at the moment, investigators suspect that a software glitch or misinterpretation by pilots may have contributed to the accident, reports The Wall Street Journal.

A FAULTY SENSOR MAY HAVE BEEN TO BLAME
According to the “black box” data found in the Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft, the airspeed indicator malfunctioned on its last four flights. The Lion Air aircraft, which had only been in use for a few months, is one of Boeing’s newest commercial aircrafts. The Boeing 737 Max 8 is currently in use by two US airlines, Southwest and American Airlines, though no issues have been reported by those airlines yet.

Following Boeing’s statement, the FAA has issued an airworthiness directive for the 737 Max which mandates safety protocols for US carriers, according to Bloomberg. The emergency order requires airlines to follow Boeing’s instructions if encountering the issue, which “could cause the flight crew to have difficulty controlling the airplane, and lead to excessive nose-down attitude, significant altitude loss, and possible impact with terrain.”
 

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Pilots flying Boeing’s 737 MAX for American Airlines and Southwest Airlines were not informed during training about a key change to an automatic system that’s been linked to the fatal crash of a Lion Air jet last month, according to pilot representatives at both airlines.

Jon Weaks, president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, said Monday the airline and the pilots “were kept in the dark.”


“We do not like the fact that a new system was put on the aircraft and wasn’t disclosed to anyone or put in the manuals,” he said in an interview. What’s more, he noted, Boeing and the Federal Aviation Administration have now warned “that the system may not be performing as it should.”

“Is there anything else on the MAX Boeing has not told the operators?” he added. “If there is, we need to be informed.”

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In order to protect against a possible stall on the MAX, Boeing made a change to a flight-control system so that it automatically pushes the nose of the aircraft down when a bladelike sensor that sticks out of the fuselage indicates that the nose is pitched up and putting the plane in danger of a stall.

In the Lion Air crash that killed 189 people in Indonesia, investigators have determined that this sensor, the Angle of Attack (AOA) sensor, was feeding bad data to the jet’s flight computer, activating the system and repeatedly pushing the nose of the plane down when in fact there was no danger of a stall.

Tracking data indicate that the Lion Air jet pitched up and down like a roller coaster during the 12-minute flight before the pilots apparently lost control and nose-dived into the Java Sea.

A former Boeing executive, speaking on condition of anonymity because discussion of accident investigations is supposed to be closely held, said that Boeing engineers didn’t introduce the change to the flight-control system arbitrarily.

He said it was done primarily because the much bigger engines on the MAX changed the aerodynamics of the jet and shifted the conditions under which a stall could happen. That required further stall protection be implemented to certify the jet as safe.

Last Tuesday, Boeing sent out a warning bulletin to all airlines operating the plane worldwide informing pilots how to cut off the system if it malfunctions. Next day, the FAA issued an emergency airworthiness directive mandating that all airlines make pilots aware of the procedure.
 

KyleMackey

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Just arrived back from a flight from Miami on a brand new AA 737 Max 8 airline. For the last 20years I have noticed that AA have utilised their oldest and most decrepit planes from Santo Domingo to Miami ( used to fly to NY). How come they are now flying these super modern planes? I wonder if they would rather not risk this plane within the US as its being investigated for design flaws after Lion Air crash in Indonisia last week? Anybody shed some light on this?

Probably a bad air speed indicator combined with non disclosure in the manual of how to counteract or no training. A deadly flight flight out of POP, late 80's?, led to placing covers over PITO tubes if a plane site for X amount of time. Regarding the POP flight it was believed that Wasps built a nest in the PITO tubes as the plane sat for 2 weeks.
 
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Shed some light on this? Um. Your post is not well written and really makes no logical sense.
Over a dozen round trips on the Max8 out/to POP and NO ONE LIKES IT.

But that's not are call and we have no choice unless we wish to change airlines and change airports.

It is what it is so deal with it.

What a dick!

But love your approach......lol
 

Riva_31

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Shed some light on this? Um. Your post is not well written and really makes no logical sense.
Over a dozen round trips on the Max8 out/to POP and NO ONE LIKES IT.

But that's not are call and we have no choice unless we wish to change airlines and change airports.

It is what it is so deal with it.

I would add that AA has 5 daily flights to SDQ and when those airplanes return to MIA they are sent to another destinations, they dont put them in the Hangar to wait next flight to Dominican Republc.