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    MIA - POP on AA has always been stupid expensive,now AA has added a second flight from MIA and the price has been cut significantly.

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    SANTO DOMINGO, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, April 19, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Representatives from Dominican Republic’s Puerto Plata Tourism Cluster (CTDPP) highlighted the region’s trending visitor arrivals and hotel projects at the 2018 Dominican Annual Tourism Exchange (DATE) conference. Most notably, cruise arrivals to Amber Cove increased 20 percent compared to 2016, welcoming 490,873 passengers in 2017. It was also noted that Amber Cove anticipates welcoming 700,000-plus cruise passengers this year.

    Over 1,000,000 passengers annually pass through POP.

    Nearly 2,000,000 passengers through Cibao.

    The premise of the OP is pure junk.

    https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...Offerings.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by william webster View Post
    Punta Cana airport is privately owned...and thriving w/ over 60% of incoming flights to the country

    Not a gov't facility like the other airports....
    60% of the Countries flights coming into the Country? I think your numbers are way off, Do you have the actual stats I would like to see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljmesg View Post
    SANTO DOMINGO, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, April 19, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Representatives from Dominican Republic’s Puerto Plata Tourism Cluster (CTDPP) highlighted the region’s trending visitor arrivals and hotel projects at the 2018 Dominican Annual Tourism Exchange (DATE) conference. Most notably, cruise arrivals to Amber Cove increased 20 percent compared to 2016, welcoming 490,873 passengers in 2017. It was also noted that Amber Cove anticipates welcoming 700,000-plus cruise passengers this year.

    Over 1,000,000 passengers annually pass through POP.

    Nearly 2,000,000 passengers through Cibao.

    The premise of the OP is pure junk.

    https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...Offerings.html
    700 000 + at amber cove this year ? Call me a sceptic but i dont even believe the 490 873 passengers in 2017. I could be wrong though, as maybe 96.87% stayed on the ships when they docked at amber cove.

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    The main problem with Puerto Plata airport is the rise of Punta Cana and the brand new huge resorts out there, Punta Cana has the nice roads and the large infrastructure for the tourism.Puerto platas resorts for the most part are very old and much smaller than those in PC. 30 years ago when I started coming to the DR, Playa dorada was packed, every hotel was packed all the time. I also think the demographics on the north coast has changed over the years, Used to be many flights from Germany, Spain, England and even Russia. I think the majority of tourists on the North Coast nowadays are Canadian and American, The Americans save a substantial amount of money flying into Santiago, which on avg is at least 100 dollars cheaper and many times closer to 200 dollars cheaper than POP. Many of the European flights are no longer daily and many are just seasonal as well as many Canadian flights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malko View Post
    700 000 + at amber cove this year ? Call me a sceptic but i dont even believe the 490 873 passengers in 2017. I could be wrong though, as maybe 96.87% stayed on the ships when they docked at amber cove.
    I have been seeing many people from the cruise ships on Sosua beach the last 2 months, I didnt see them before that,but lately they are there. You will see all the taxi drivers with the green shirts mingling in the middle of the beach, while their customers enjoy the beach. I hope it continues, so that the businesses in Sosua do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badpiece33 View Post
    60% of the Countries flights coming into the Country? I think your numbers are way off, Do you have the actual stats I would like to see that.
    Pablo the pilot told me that more than half of all flights coming into the DR land at PUJ. Don't know if it reaches 60% though. And he knows what he is talking about for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badpiece33 View Post
    60% of the Countries flights coming into the Country? I think your numbers are way off, Do you have the actual stats I would like to see that.
    Might be a bit less... like 50+%... but waaaay above all the others.

    Even at 50%+... that's as much as all the others combined

    Wait --- got something
    http://www.jac.gob.do/transparencia/...ort%202017.pdf

    low 50's.....2 yrs ago....
    A newer report is higher - as I recall..
    seems to go up every yr in PUJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKY View Post
    Pablo the pilot told me that more than half of all flights coming into the DR land at PUJ. Don't know if it reaches 60% though. And he knows what he is talking about for sure.
    In January 2019 Punta Cana Airport got the 66% of the tourist arriving to DR, Santo Domingo 13.8% and Puerto Plata arround 10%.

    PUJ - 7,886,586 pax for 2018
    SDQ - 3,700,582 Pax for 2018
    POP - 875,941 pax for 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrob View Post
    I doubt it's the airport fees by themselves. Airlines fly in here now. They're making a profit or they wouldn't do it.

    The problem is the aging infrastructure, crappy roads, aging AI's, sewage smell everywhere you go, AI's and hotels raising prices to make up for less traffic, and less traffic becuse of the prices being raised.

    The gov't is improving roads, educating about the garbage everywhere, and beginning to advertise the NC. But it ain't going to happen overnight.
    I agree with the above post and with the OP's initial comments. It is a combination of aging resorts and infrastructure primarily that reduced demand for flights. As the flights were removed from POP, the prices of the available seats went up. The hotels were turned into condos as the owners sold out and maximized their profits as hotel occupancy dropped. The great interest in Punta Cana was a significant factor in fewer people being interested in the north coast. Any differences in costs to land at POP versus STI, SDQ or PUJ airports are just a contributing factor if they exist at all.

    Perhaps VINCI Airports would be a source of information on any fee differences:

    6 airports in the Dominican Republic

    5M+
    passengers welcomed by Aerodom airports in 2018
    3.8M
    passengers welcomed by Las Americas airport alone
    Acquired in December 2015 from the investment fund Advent International, Aerodom is the concession holder for six of the nine airports in the Dominican Republic, including the capital: Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata. Operation transferred to VINCI Airports in April 2016 under the terms of this concession contract, which runs until 2030.

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