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    Default "Forget tourism" and new "facts" on DR history

    give this gem a good read:
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    i had never laughed so much due to a "news article" report as much as i did for this gem.... who would have known Trujillo wanted to merge the island and Haiti declined so he ordered the "perejil massacre" hahahahahahaha

    not even going to comment on the "build a wall" thing... that whole article has to be a joke... it HAS TO BE!

    i cant wait for the 2020 DR elections to see these people's reaction to Ramfis

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    This is an opinion piece and not a news article. I don't share her opinions. While I know of racist attitudes by some Dominicans, I have not seen that much of it, especially in the churches and bateys in and around San Pedro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estrelleta44 View Post
    give this gem a good read:
    the article

    i had never laughed so much due to a "news article" report as much as i did for this gem.... who would have known Trujillo wanted to merge the island and Haiti declined so he ordered the "perejil massacre" hahahahahahaha

    not even going to comment on the "build a wall" thing... that whole article has to be a joke... it HAS TO BE!

    i cant wait for the 2020 DR elections to see these people's reaction to Ramfis
    Several years ago I lived with a Dominican lady. It was OK for me to look at Dominican chicas, but I would get hit in the face if she thought I was looking at a Haitiana. I asked her more than once how she surmised that this one or that one was haitiana, and she assured me she could tell and was sure I could too.
    Derfish

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    Mods - I may be taking this thread into Off Topic - perhaps touching on racism? perhaps Verbotten? Delete if needed.

    My own opinion piece - as an American White woman who was in the DR as a journalist for 14 years...

    Not meant to offend the sensibilities of Dominicans - Not meant to judge

    Simply giving my observations - as close as I can get to what I saw as the reality on the ground --
    It is, as said, an opinion piece. Not only that - it is clearly written by someone raised in America - with a US perspective on "racism" and "colorist". There are certainly both in the DR - despite the fact that it is one to the most "blended" places that probably exists in this hemisphere. Anyone who denies this simply has not read the classifieds which call for "buena presncia" or do not know what that means - has not picked up the SD Glossy Magazines to see that there is a Color Bar beyond which the pictures do not appear, has not been to a restaurant in the Nato/Piantini section with a very Dark Skinned Dominican/or Haitian as an escort..Has not heard about Pelo Malo vs Peso Bueno nor seen the pictures of such on the milk cartons given out in public schools.

    I do not wish to open as discussion as to whether or not the Dominicans are "racists" since I honestly belive that the vast majority are not - in that they do not belive that "whites" are superior to "blacks" - they may... No one can see into another persons hearts.

    But what is a Reality on the Island - which is only one of 7 divided islands in the world - is that there is a nation of 10 or 11 million persons of Extreme Poverty living in an environmentally degraded nation, which has not managed to become self governing despite 200 years of independence - Pressing against a population of 10 or 11 million persons who are about 50% themselves in poverty. The line that Dominicans hold against Haitians - against giving them "citizenship" status and papers - is so that they will not form a voting block inside the Dominican Republic. Thus the "colorism" lens - whatever that may be - is also complicated by nationalism.

    And there is a deep and fascinating past on Hispaniola which the opinion writer has clearly not studied.

    I went to a conference with both Dominican and Haitian journalist - my report - vis a vis the Trujillo/racism/historty question as answered by a former DR Ambassador to Haiti might be of interest-

    http://www.ipsnews.net/2008/11/haiti...t-stereotypes/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estrelleta44 View Post
    give this gem a good read:
    the article

    i had never laughed so much due to a "news article" report as much as i did for this gem.... who would have known Trujillo wanted to merge the island and Haiti declined so he ordered the "perejil massacre" hahahahahahaha

    not even going to comment on the "build a wall" thing... that whole article has to be a joke... it HAS TO BE!

    i cant wait for the 2020 DR elections to see these people's reaction to Ramfis
    The attitude displayed in the article about the DR seems to be pretty common from some in the US. And most of those people never visited the DR for any length of time. 99% don't know who the DR celebrates their Independence Day from.

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    Mods - I note that the OP does not have enough posts to read the Off Topic section

    So - if you could leave my post on for a bit?

    unless the Thread Veers into a Food Fight?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainannie View Post
    Mods - I note that the OP does not have enough posts to read the Off Topic section

    So - if you could leave my post on for a bit?

    unless the Thread Veers into a Food Fight?

    thanks
    I will leave it as long as everyone conducts themselves as you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estrelleta44 View Post
    give this gem a good read:
    the article

    i had never laughed so much due to a "news article" report as much as i did for this gem.... who would have known Trujillo wanted to merge the island and Haiti declined so he ordered the "perejil massacre" hahahahahahaha

    not even going to comment on the "build a wall" thing... that whole article has to be a joke... it HAS TO BE!

    i cant wait for the 2020 DR elections to see these people's reaction to Ramfis
    Those stories, over and over repeated about slavery, discrimination are so tiresome. Always using these excuses make one weak and pathetical.

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    well the writer of the article knows her audience but not her facts. I can only speak about my experience, and I can say I have seen several incidents between Haitians and Dominicans that showed obvious disrespect towards Haitians, but in both cases other Dominicans got involved and defended the Haitians and sent their fellow Dominicans packing. These incidents are pretty rare , at least here in Jarabacoa, and there are lots of Haitians here, both long term residents and lots of new illegals.
    Lots of construction and lots of agricultural work. I know of at least three intermarriages between Dominicans and Haitians. The public schools are filled with Haitian children and everyday I see Dominican and Haitian kids playing together. At our school this year we had 13 Haitian kids, all but two born in the DR. There is no difference in the way teachers or anyone else treat Haitians. There will always be uneducated drunks and buffoons that make nasty comments to Haitian women, they do the same to Dominican women and school girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulano2 View Post
    Those stories, over and over repeated about slavery, discrimination are so tiresome. Always using these excuses make one weak and pathetical.
    you think slavery and discrimination are tiresome?

    i wonder what your opinion would be if you were a victim...

    you think they are an excuse? excuse for what?

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