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    Quote Originally Posted by windeguy View Post
    franco1111: On the north coast , we all got smart meters they can read from the office. They monitor the power coming into developments and barrios and add up all the power used on the smart meters. If they find a problem, they can act on it. They can if they want reduce the circuit from an A (24/7) to a B or C and cut power daily to those lower designations. This is the kind of stupidity you get when the government runs the power distribution system. They do know how much is paid for and how much is stolen.

    There were more people in our "gringo" development stealing power back then than I would have guessed. They re-routed all the 220 wiring, installed new transformers and made it much harder to steal and not get caught. Neighbors that were caught had to pay for years worth of back power usage and a fine to get service again.

    The current stupidity is just stupidity of another kind, but is expected from Edenorte and the EDE's in general after my 16 years of dealing with them.
    I think they will never even try to catch the scofflaws. They can see the illegal taps when they do a service or street light replacement - they just are either too lazy to disconnect them or it is old uncle Tito and it's a bendicion for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico bill View Post
    I think they will never even try to catch the scofflaws. They can see the illegal taps when they do a service or street light replacement - they just are either too lazy to disconnect them or it is old uncle Tito and it's a bendicion for him
    They had no problem doing it in our "gringo" development, but yes, I agree doing it in the barrio is another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user123 View Post
    It's funny that a country with 500 sunny days a year and the coast such is in the north where it's windy 24/7 has issues with producing electricity.
    Very true. IMO, what you forget, is that (almost) nothing in the DR works in a logical manner. If it did, this would not be a 3rd world country. If every house had solar panels on the roof, or if the government would actually work like it's supposed to, there would not be a problem. But there is...

    What I consider funny was the news that when the president of Edesur in Santo Domingo (or was it elsewhere, I cannot recall) was giving a speech during an anniversary of Edesur or something, the lights went out, they stayed out and nobody new immediately how to end the apagon... Imagine that happening elsewhere, the president would soon be unemployed... But I doubt that here...

    We belong to one of the circuits near POP city center, meaning that we usually don't have apagones if the whole city of POP is not without luz, and recently that has been the case almost weekly... I consider leaving a whole city and a tourist destination without luz for several hours a major fluke and embarrassment on the part of Edenorte, but of course they don't even know that word...

    I used to complain about this, but I don't anymore, just be prepared...

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    josh2203, Government employees are not ever embarrassed for not providing a service. That is at that root of the problem with a government run entity like Edenorte. Competence and business sense are frowned upon.

    As for the solar panel discussion. Personal responsibility and your own money can provide some relief from the problem if you own a home and have the space to do so. But the vast majority of Dominicans do not have this personal option.

    I have it on good word that "the powers that be" in the DR are actually considering large scale solar farms that ring the country. That helps during the day time, but where are all those huge batteries going to come from for the other 14 or so hours? Yes , solar is great, but only a part of what could make things better.

    Privatizing the electrical distribution system would go a long way in improving the situation. Then people would pay or get arrested and cut off for stealing power. Sadly that is not going to happen any time soon.

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    After Maria or Irma I don't remember which storm, a local gated community on an A circuit was without power for at least 3 days. Most people I assume accept the published weekly outages and occasional redistribution event. As long as the cellphone is charged, most probably don't need 24 hrs electricity availability in their modest electronics deprived homes. I on the other hand, depend heavily on electricity for something to do. If I know in advance I can make sure the laptop is charged and I have programming to watch. However, I cannot currently recharge the laptop after a viewing binge. Although, I can always grab a bag of ice to keep the beer cold. I decided to name "drinking Tuesday" to cover the regular 6 hour scheduled outage but I am not sure I wish to add drinking Wednesday, drinking Friday and drinking Saturday to the schedule.

    It is the way it is and current drain on the infrastructure is a bit of an anomaly, but the electrical system has been and continues to be a big fail on the part of the providers and the govt. The annoyance factor for me is 2nd only to govt bureaucracy in this country. It is inexcusable that a country of the DR's level of development can't keep the lights on most of the time. Most locals don't seem to care and only burn tires when the price of gasoline, propane or rice goes up too much. I found a big pile of discarded tires the other day next to the road - I may grab a few and light one in front of my house every time the power is off for longer than 15 minutes...

    As I said, I really do not wish to install yet another an inverter in a rental property, but if things continue as they have been, I may have no choice. I already paid to fix the wiring and most of the deficient plumbing, what's a bit more?

    I'm dreading a big storm that takes out the power for days, a week or longer. I may have to eat all the food in the fridge and then go to WW's house even if he isn't there. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by windeguy View Post
    josh2203, Government employees are not ever embarrassed for not providing a service. That is at that root of the problem with a government run entity like Edenorte. Competence and business sense are frowned upon.

    As for the solar panel discussion. Personal responsibility and your own money can provide some relief from the problem if you own a home and have the space to do so. But the vast majority of Dominicans do not have this personal option.

    I have it on good word that "the powers that be" in the DR are actually considering large scale solar farms that ring the country. That helps during the day time, but where are all those huge batteries going to come from for the other 14 or so hours? Yes , solar is great, but only a part of what could make things better.

    Privatizing the electrical distribution system would go a long way in improving the situation. Then people would pay or get arrested and cut off for stealing power. Sadly that is not going to happen any time soon.
    The private electric company in Punta Cana (and Bayahibe) does a great job. When the electricity quits arriving from the national grid the generators start and we have luz again in about 10 minutes. But, the cost is about 30 cents a kwh (15 pesos).

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    How much of the problem is due to reservoir levels too low to generate power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by franco1111 View Post
    The private electric company in Punta Cana (and Bayahibe) does a great job. When the electricity quits arriving from the national grid the generators start and we have luz again in about 10 minutes. But, the cost is about 30 cents a kwh (15 pesos).
    Same thing in Samana with Luz y Fuerza. It is similarly expensive, but it is very reliable. The people of El Limon did not want to pay the high rate anymore, so they had huelgas and demanded that the town switch to EdeNorte.

    The town switched, and once they realized that Edenorte's cheap power is off about half of the day, the huelgas started and they cut down the electric poles and the wires. Then they had zero power for a long time. I am still not sure if it has been restored to some areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobraboy View Post
    How much of the problem is due to reservoir levels too low to generate power?
    Without knowing how the power from various sources is actually distributed all around the country, I would have no way to answer that.
    Last edited by waytogo; 09-05-2019 at 05:24 PM.

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    Class Action - now that's rich. Even in the states the only one benefiting from class action is the lawyers, all others go fish.....

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