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    Frankly even at 300 pesos a day you are paying too much for much of the domestic help that is available. On a global scale you cant get worse value for an employee than a lazy Dominican.

    This gets us back to the need for a strong hand. Pinochet took care of business in Chile, many of my mom and dads friends speak of him in high esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfp View Post
    Frankly even at 300 pesos a day you are paying too much for much of the domestic help that is available. On a global scale you cant get worse value for an employee than a lazy Dominican.

    This gets us back to the need for a strong hand. Pinochet took care of business in Chile, many of my mom and dads friends speak of him in high esteem.
    I have run a hotel successfully for a number of years and my cleaners get about RD$ 1,000 a day excluding cash tips. This is about the going rate in Santo Domingo, at least for proper cleaners who don't steal and work hard. I dread to think what you would get if you paid RD$ 50 an hour or RD$ 300 a day but you would be asking for trouble - poor standards, and like people have said, a constant threat to have things stolen, or constant complaining about money. I'm pretty certain that the minimum liveable wage in Santo Domingo is about RD$ 25,000 when you take into account rent, food, transport. Pay any less than this and it won't end well, particularly if you're a foreigner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsav View Post
    Both American teacher in Cabarete and Lindsey were VERY generous and loving to locals. Both were brutally murdered nevertheless.
    A lot of people reading DR1 are very very very upset about Lindsay. Please don't throw her murder into your discussion to score points on this forum, it's incredibly insensitive. Out of respect for her it would also be nice if you could spell her name correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalPaul View Post
    A lot of people reading DR1 are very very very upset about Lindsay. Please don't throw her murder into your discussion to score points on this forum, it's incredibly insensitive. Out of respect for her it would also be nice if you could spell her name correctly.
    thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsav View Post
    Both American teacher in Cabarete and Lindsey were VERY generous and loving to locals. Both were brutally murdered nevertheless.
    Neither of them were murdered due to their wanting to
    help others by being generous. You're not the only one
    on this forum who's lived in a few different countries or
    speaks a few different languages. Some people live here
    because we actually enjoy it. I'm beginning to wonder whether
    or not you've actually stepped foot on this island or if you're
    just trolling us from mommy's basement???

    Murder is an ugly thing and effects people in different ways...
    Its not cool to lean on the dead while trying to make your point.
    Ya call ya self educated? Smartin up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsav View Post
    On the other hand it is good for expats. Plenty of cheap labor. Desperate for ANY income at all.
    I'm willing to pay good money for good labor ... just here all the labor is terrible once they tell you my work is 100 % guaranteed tell them no thanks.... no pride in their work........ example would be a plumber asking me for my cigar lighter to solder a pipe .. i told him get the F out ...

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    My best plumber story is the guy who came to unclog a pipe but had no snake. When I asked why he didn't have what can only be considered standard equipment, he explained it rusted away.

    He suggested we dig up the pipe when I asked how he planned to remove the blockage. I sent him on his way. Bought a snake and did it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfp View Post
    Frankly even at 300 pesos a day you are paying too much for much of the domestic help that is available. On a global scale you cant get worse value for an employee than a lazy Dominican.

    This gets us back to the need for a strong hand. Pinochet took care of business in Chile, many of my mom and dads friends speak of him in high esteem.
    I have found that many Americans and Canadians take their racist, right wing, mussolini loving ways with them when they expatriate. Why is it that so many Spanish speaking countries, e.g. Honduras, Panama, Costa Rica, and apparently the D.R. seem to harbor an overabundance of assholes from North America?

    Well, this part of my research is done: I have found that among those who appreciate simpler ways of life, are those who wish they could oppress brown people like in the old days in the USA.

    I got my first passport as a means to get away from the latter. Sad to know they are everywhere, spreading their biggotry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepenthe9 View Post
    I have found that many white Americans and Canadians take their racist, right wing, mussolini loving ways with them when they expatriate. Why is it that so many Spanish speaking countries, e.g. Honduras, Panama, Costa Rica, and apparently the D.R. seem to harbor an overabundance of assholes from North America?

    Well, this part of my research is done: I have found that among those who appreciate simpler ways of life, are those who wish they could oppress brown people like in the old days in the USA.

    I got my first passport as a means to get away from the latter. Sad to know they are everywhere, spreading their biggotry.
    Perhaps you should add some brain food in with your fruit and nuts. You must have an indoctrination degree from a liberal arts school. Your above statement shows you to be another indoctrinated progressive that is quite clueless about the " majority " of white Americans and Canadians that are expats. Racist people do not move to Brown or black population dominated countries. Give you head a shake, rfp is a non-white Dominican living in the USA. Certainly his opinions are extreme, but then yours seem to be as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob saunders View Post
    Perhaps you should add some brain food in with your fruit and nuts. You must have an indoctrination degree from a liberal arts school. Your above statement shows you to be another indoctrinated progressive that is quite clueless about the " majority " of white Americans and Canadians that are expats. Racist people do not move to Brown or black population dominated countries. Give you head a shake, rfp is a non-white Dominican living in the USA. Certainly his opinions are extreme, but then yours seem to be as well.
    Just to be clear, I have met (black) Hatians in the U.S. who hate and fear black Americans.
    They clearly take there ignorance with them... to the U.S. I cannot explain why. I wonder.

    I am referencing my experiences and asking questions, whether it bothers you is a different matter. I will ask more questions until such time my questions are deemed intolerable by whomever moderates here.

    So... answer the question or go entertain yourself another way, please.

    See...I did not even call you a dick.

    As to the point, I have found that there are many a North American expat (they tend to be white, as they are most likely financially able to travel internationally, and hold passports) I have encountered in places such as Panama, Costa Rica, etc. complain about the local people and are not averse to abusing them when convenient. I did not say all.

    As for my education, my first graduate degree is with a major in statistics.
    So much for generalization.

    Asshole.
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