The Fair Choice Party Provides a Radical Solution.

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The corporate greed and irresponsibility we are currently witnessing by WorldCom, Enron, Global Crossing, Haliburton and others is only the symptom of a much larger problem that affects all of us - a disintegration of the line separating economic power from political power. It is this absolute power that corrupts; and government only seems willing to provide band-aid solutions and cover-ups.

Please take a look at the enclosed op-ed piece announcing a new philosophy promoted by the Fair Choice Party. I believe it addresses the core issue concerning corporate domination and provides a desperately needed answer to how we can fairly and justly separate this destructive bond between greed and control. The FCP promotes the idea of giving larger votes to poorer people; and as you might guess it's rapidly gaining attention in the media and with the general public here in North America and around the world. Many sensible readers will recognize that with this innovation it's now possible to be both powerful and revolutionary, without calling for the downfall of either capitalism or democracy. In fact, we believe that with such a system in place the result would be far more robust capitalism and democracy!

If you find these ideas as intriguing as many others have, feel contact me at 604-646-0560 or at SteveG@FairChoice.org. Thank you for your consideration.


Best regards,



Steve Glickman
President
Fair Choice Party

Enclosures: Op-Ed Piece.



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Op-Ed Piece

The Fair Choice Party Provides a Radical Solution.


Life is not fair, the old adage goes; but the Fair Choice Party says it can be - easily, openly, and immediately.

Mankind's history has been a long a march from brutality and oppression to enlightenment and freedom. The past three millennia have seen a transition from the brutish "survival of the fittest" to a more enlightened "all people are created equal." Feudalism replaced barbarism. Kingdoms replaced feudalism. Nation-states replaced kingdoms. By turns; dictatorships, communism, socialism, and democracy have replaced royalty.

But the common denominator of this transition - so far - has been the fact that political power and economic power continue to be inextricably woven together. Arabian monarchs still have political and economic control. In China, communists maintain total control. Mafia-like tyrants rule much of the rest of the Third World.

Even in democracies like Canada and the United States, those with economic power also yield the political power - the ruling elite who run the corporations from their high towers. Meanwhile, the common person - be they laborer, student, farmer, blue collar, or white collar; effectively have neither.

Until now.

The Fair Choice Party is a new emerging political party, which proposes a way for the march of human history to take its next big step towards freedom. The FCP proposes a "gentle revolution" which continues to embrace capitalism and democracy while splitting the historic marriage of economic and political power. How? Simply put, you can seek wealth and insulation, or participation and responsibility, but you cannot continue to have absolute control over both. The Fair Choice Party proposes to scale vote size inversely to wealth; so that the less you have the more vote you get, and the more you have the less of a vote you get.

While sounding radical, this idea is not that far fetched. It is similar to the redistribution of power that occurred in ancient Greece, or with the abolition of slavery, or the inclusion of women in the voting process, or the drafting of the Magna Carta, or the Bill of Rights. Nowadays, we see the information that controls everything in the hands of big business, while for the rest of us it's just a giant competition fed by petroleum. We need to find a way to use our technology to once again establish equality - that's the innovation of the FCP.

The implications of the Fair Choice Party are staggering. Some people react without thought, simply dismissing the idea; but lets take a minute to examine what the consequences would be. For example, sweatshop workers would obtain the political power they need to develop opportunities and improve their working conditions. Crime and drug infested communities now have an opportunity to clean-up their cities and neighborhoods themselves. The environment would be better protected and stewardship would prevail. Products would become more efficient, last longer, be safer, and cheaper. The result, to the analytical mind, would be increased production, increased participation, increased quality of life, and increased security.

Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of the FCP is that with the poorer people better able to manage themselves through an efficient government, they can rid themselves of dependency and stagnation - which ought to lower taxes for all of us. The tradeoff for redistributing political power this way is not only avoiding the lost profits, lost businesses, and shattered lives of oppression and bloodshed; but also keeping and assisting our economic position. In a feasible and practical way, the FCP offers an epoch in social evolution where by once again learning to share we see a better quality of life for all. All the while keeping the nurturing engines of capitalism and free elections intact, even accented, in their place in society.

The FCP has found a way to share our power and our wealth that is effective and practical, and not just theoretical. Everyone agrees that we need some kind of good governance to prosper. Anarchy is quietly destroying many forgotten nations, while dictatorships feed on themselves until their economy ends in ruins. Communism promised power to the masses but brought only terror and unfettered control in the hands of a party elite. Socialism promised economic power to the poor and middle class but only delivered bureaucracy and loss of innovation. The FCP vote-scaling idea seems perfectly designed to resist all these different kinds of corruption.

Human advancement does not come without controversy or difficulty. Socrates was executed for questioning his society's tenets. Galileo was scoffed at about his theories of the solar system. Einstein was just a clerk when he devised his theory of relativity. A bunch of traitors to the British Crown signed the Declaration of Independence. A skinny man in a white robe finally broke through to the conscience of the British Empire and founded modern India.

So, to some, the Fair Choice Party may look like a radical, even dangerous idea - but really, what are our alternatives? In the short term, the injection of confidence and optimism into the masses would be a welcome relief to the dire mindset prevailing. In the long term, the FCP can be a means of stability, allowing all people of all classes and all nations to co-exist and cooperate. It could only be a matter of time before the poorer people unite and place the FCP in our political model - are we ready?
 

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Every two to four years when it is time to elect national leaders, at least one new political party is born. It appears that the political campaign of 2002 will not be an exception.

I don't think your party has a hope of getting even 1% of the votes.

These days people have many things to worry about, including terrorism, the economy, kidnapping of children, etc., etc. I don't think the large majority will waste much time or energy thinking about the Fair Choice Party.

An Op-Ed piece in a newspaper that was written, no doubt, by one of the party's founders, is hardly evidence that it is "rapidly gaining attention in the media." When I hear it debated seriously on CNN and NBC, then I'll believe you are being taken seriously by the media.

With respect to it gaining rapid attention by the people of the world, I doubt that there is much interest outside of the few founders and their families.

Do you have a budget to promote your party, or is your publicity campaign based on writing op-ed pieces, letters to the editor, and posting propoganda on message boards like this one?

"The less you have the more vote you get." A more accurate way of saying this is "rob the rich to treat the poor." And you claim to be a friend of both capitalism and democracy. Give me a break, Steve.

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What's your point Ken? You seem to understand my situation pretty well; I'll even give you that I use freelance writers to help with the writing - so what?

But this is the DR forum right? What do you suggest I do, wait until the people living there get, like you, to only accept the things that they're told on CNN?? Do you think that they wouldn't vote FCP if given the chance? Do you think that they only want to turn the tables on the rich and end up having the tables turned again on them? Read the article again! The whole point of the Fair Choice is that it provides a system that resists the very kind of corruption that you talk about (and blindly follow, by the way.) What are you doing here? Are you lost? Or perhaps just looking to pick a fight with anyone who doesn't get on CNN. Are you so afraid of the DR people as to not want to share your freedom with them?
 

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Did I misunderstand something? Was that op-ed piece in a Dominican newspaper? Are you trying to get established in the DR? If so, I think they already have a party that takes from the haves to give to the have nots.

I think your proposal is a joke. Your idea is to give the poorest person the most votes and the wealthiest the least. What a great stimulus that will be for economic growth.

"Resists the very sort of corruption that you talk about...."? Don't try to put words in my mouth; I said nothing about corruption.

What am I doing here? Am I lost? Those are pretty snappy rebutals, Steve. You'll do well in the presidencial debates.

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It is a scary thought to have poor on educated people controling the power of choice. That's the case in the DR.The poor people get brainwashed by incompetent polititians. Since there are more poor people than rich, the wrong discissions get made.
 

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Fair Choice Party Based in Canada

Checking your website, SteveG, I was very relieved to find that you're Canadian and that your headquarters is located in Vancouver, BC, Canada. I was afraid you might be from the US. There are quite a number of Canadian regulars on this board so I'll stand aside (I find that I'm not considered a good candidate for recruitment anyway) and let them continue the debate if they choose.

By the way, what will you choose: Money? or Power? Or are the party leaders allowed both?

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I choose part of each (if you look at the graph you'll that that there are no absolutes/classes); but leaning a little towards the power side. If I really was interested in wealth then I would be the politician that you claim I want to be, turn the movement into yet another impotent non-profit organization, suck up some of the government funding, and try to ride out the storm sitting on boards and smothering myself and co-conspirators with praise, publicity, and money.

My experiences in Canada thus stated perhaps not strong enough. Instead I'll compare the "left" here to the situation in the Congo during Mobutu, when the corruption ran so deep that it was impossible to get anything done without getting dirty. That is how he controlled his people; by smearing them so that they'd all eye each other suspiciously. Sound familiar?

And of course the leaders are not allowed a monopoly over both. By insisting on elections, and concentrating power in those who are the most progressive in their thinking, the corruption that you again allude to would be minimized. I doubt that the poorer people in D.R. would continue to stand by and remain ignorant if we gave them the opportunity to be heard. Hopefully they will also choose to educate themselves (which I undoubtedly think they would).

No, I'm a writer, I hate the media, I hate the corporate structure, I'm anti-social; and I feel way too sorry for myself too much of the time to be much good as a leader. But that said, I stand by my ideas.

What do you propose that we do about our problems? Nothing? Slaughter the innocents? Go faster? Gouge out our eyes with Brittany Spears and KFC? At least I'm trying to offer an alternative. The best you seem to be able to do is criticize. If we can't find a way to share, then we're all f****d, and then it's adios amigos. The U.S. included.
 
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Harold,

I share your concerns about the poor and the current lack of will to have them educated; but don't you think that if we gave them real power in terms of a larger vote, then they would take it upon themselves to educate themselves? Why should they now when the whole system is aligned against them?

And by giving the underclass larger votes, it would finally be in the interests of the wealthy to make sure that they are happy, content, and educated. This would be radically different from what we have now; which is just the demand from them to be silent, stupid, and unorganized.
 

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This is certainly a D.R. thing! Is there not a system off the rails there? Are the majority of population deprived of voice? Would the vast majority, if allowed to hear of, favour the Fair Choice system over what they have now? Or do *we* just want to debate our own priorities as they suffer?

I was hoping that this board was read by D.R.'s, not just a bunch of pampered North Americans with nothing better to do than point fingers at them and each other.
 
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Give the poor the majority of the vote? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Who comes up with stuff? The poor will educate themselves if given a larger balance of power? If half the poor took the time to educate themselves and actually vote NOW i think we'd have far more socialist governments. Not ideal in my eyes, but i think that would be the situation. Instead of wasting your time trying to get more votes for the poor and ignorant, why not devote your efforts to eduacting them more, and encouraging them to vote intelligently? Call me a skeptic, but this seems like some sort of leftist, socialist scam. Its not even a scam actually, scams fool people. This isn't fooling anyone. And no, i'm not some moneybags trying to protect his stash. You could say I'm poor too, making about $CDN 1100 in a good month, paying all the bills honestly.
 

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One of the problems in the DR right now...

is that the poor do vote -uniformed anduneducated tho' they may be. They also work very hard for their "party" in hopes of getting a good paying gov't job should their party win.
Take Hippo's gov't for example. I know three people who hold major positions in this gov't who worked very hard to get him elected. Their rewards were the gov't position they now occupy with wages in the range of $10,000 - $15,000 pesos per month.
The problem is these people were fishermen from a small village before and lack the knowledge and training to run the dept's they've been placed in charge of!! They also were only making about $4000 pesos per month before and spent the rest of their time sitting at the colmado drinking rum, Presidente and playing Dominos'.

Educate first and responsible gov't will follow!!
 

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What the Hell is going on here?

First you (DR1)give Ken and those who want a "Protected Site" where they can "Debate" non-relevant topics,you ask all the "Bad Boys" to use the "General" section of the OPEN Forum,and then the "Debaters" start boring us to death here! What the hell is going on here? CRISCO
 

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Ken,and Steve!Get out of here!

Jesus H. Christ Ken,have you no shame?You now have your own personal site(DR Dabates) where you and "Ladies" like you can hide from provocative responses to your Pseudo-Intellectual vomit.What are you doing in this "Sandbox"? Want your cake,and eat it to? Here you are fair game.Why don't you and Steve take your nonsense and go to the "Ladies Room"? Do you sit down when you Pee?I guess the new moderators only vaporize the "Bad Boys" when we go to the "DR Debates"(Powder Puff Derby Site) and not visa versa! Figures. CRISCO
 

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SteveG said:
I was hoping that this board was read by D.R.'s, not just a bunch of pampered North Americans with nothing better to do than point fingers at them and each other.

Sorry that we disappoint you. This is a board for English-speaking North Americans and Europeans who either live in the DR or spend a lot of time there. The one thing we have in common, besides having our heads screwed on tight, is that we have a great love for the Dominican Republic and respect for the Dominican people.

Are you aware that the Dominican Republic is a Spanish-speaking country? If you had bothered to read even a few posts in other sections you would have seen that the people who frequent this board are not those you are trying to lead into the promised land.

The people to whom you want to give the most votes don't have computers and don't frequent message boards. They don't speak Spanish, either.

Your posts here haven't been a total waste of your time. They have provided many of us who enjoy this board with an amusing diversion.
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Come on "HEN",I mean "ken",can't you do better than that?

This guy Steve"G"Spot,is just another phony like you.He posts some useless self-agrandizing, supposedly idealistic, ramble,just like you do,and then you insult him.Don't worry.You,Hollywood,and Ces"Pool" are the undisputed "KINGS of FLUFF" of DR1.We will not suffer "Pretenders" to your throne! Now get the hell back to your "Cloister"! CRISCO..PS,I bet that Dolores and Robert would like to know when you took charge of this site.You state that;"This board,(DR1) is for North Americans and English speaking Europeans?" Are you nuts? Poor Dominicans don't have access to the Internet then?Your "Gingoism" is busting out all over!Just what I expected from the "tone" of your "Hollier Than Thou" posts.This site is for;"Whites Only" everyone,lets go!You French,Germans,Danes,Italians,come on over here,Ken will administer an "English Test" to see if you have the right to post,or "lurk" on DR1!All Dominicans leave now! Ken says only rich English speakers with their own computers use DR1!
 
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Ken

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Yes, I can do better. Glad that this thread was moved to General Stuff so that it isn't necessary to comply with Robert's rules for the Debate section.
 

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It flew over Robert?s nest

I have to go with Crisco here.

I think the first post by Steve G flew over Robert?s head and so it was not deleted.............or moved.

You guys have a section called DR1 debates.......why still hang out in our area.


Signed...

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Alrighty, here is goes.... You want 'bad-boy'? A 1.5 L bottle of blush wine was all it took. To be quite honest, Steve G is by far one of the stupidest posters i've ever read, pinko or otherwise. His ideas have absolutely no merit. I don't even think the poor would argue on his side. Would anyone on this site? Let's hear it. If anyone agrees with Steve, please post promptly. Come on! Try to make your arguments as strong as possible though, CC, Missing DR and myself, voices of reason, are at the ready, prepared to rip you to shreds. This goes for you too Steve. Giving the the poor a vote proportional to their lack of success is ridiculous. It would be like listing the 10 lowest scores rather than the 10 highest in the new DR1 tetris game. It just doesn't make sense. People like to tear into the rich for all their problems. Some inherit wealth, true, but the majority work for it. Those who obviously care the most should be entitled to the most influence; poor, rich, or otherwise. I still can't believe it..... give the poor more votes..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA