Exploting the natural resourses?

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Have you boys ever concidered that you may be exploiting one of the most wonderful and pure natural resourses on this island? The women. You come here with your big bucks. Put dollar signs infront of these good Dominican women. Take from them all they have, and I'm not refering to their belongings and money. Show them what money can buy. Then leave them for a newer model so they can be poor again. Then you tell all your buddies to come here to do the same.
You want this place to be a paradise. Wonderful women. But you go and tell everyone. They come and have their way too. What your creating is a bunch of people dependent on foreigners and giving all their "resourses" to get what the foreigners have.
Reminds me of the song.."You pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Take all the trees , put 'em in a tree museum. Then have to pay $1.50 to see 'em. Don't it always seem to be. Ya don't know what you got til its gone"(Joan Bias..Bais...Baies...can't spell her name)
Can't you keep a secret!
 

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Well Jan you allmost got it right with your paved paradise ,and parking lot ,twas Joany Mitchell ,not joan Bias but it was close enough ,as for exploitation who is exploiting who ?????
Cash for sex,sex for cash mmmmmmm now thats a idea might even take off
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natural resources, hmmm

Jan,
I don't know you and you are right that Dominican women are very beautiful. I can speak only for myself. My spanish isn't that great though I am studying it in college but I have the women come on to me 90% of the time. You can't change a country overnight regarding the economy and the limited social mobility. I vacation for relaxation and a benefit in the DR is the easy accessibility of the natural resources. Humanitarianism aside, there is no difference of me going to a bar and picking up a lady in the states or someone cheating on their wife with a mistress or using an escort service. It is unfortunate that highly developed countries such as the US have many countries in Central America and the DR dependent on the US for a source of income but that is life. Everyone knows what the oldest profession is and I am tired of women using it as a tool to punish me when they are upset with me or I forgot our 4th month anniversary, etc. I don't steal, beat women, or lead them on in the US or in the DR, so I don't lose any sleep at night remembering the wonderful resources in the DR. American women can take a lesson from Latina women in general.
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So Whats Your Point Jan?

We didn't corrupt this country,we just take full advantage of the corruption!Women were cheating on their husbands long before I got here!If Dominican men didn't treat Dominican women like dirt,what foreign man would stand a chance.Hell the young men are as great looking as the young girls!Maybe better,ask "AZB"!"PURE"? Jan,get real! "PURE"? I am pissing myself!I get about 4 calls a day,2 from "married" women!We don't "take" anything from these women.In case you haven't noticed,"PUSSY" in a renewable resource!!!!And it tastes good too!Your post about the sex trade in the DR,is as bad as if I posted about what it's like to suffer from PMS! You don't know nothing about the sex trade,and I don't know nothing about PMS! Cris
 

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I find it so funny when I am in the DR when one of these DR Beauties tries to play me for a Pizza. Yup you heard it right, a beautiful 20 something year old beauty with a body to die for plays me for a FREAKIN PIZZA like I don't have a clue in this world.

I would buy her a car or a house but no, she has to insult me into buying her a 45 peso Pizza. Oh well, so much for me taking advantage. I bought her the pizza and wouldn't give her the time of day after that. I was too insulted to face a woman that played me for 2 dollars and change.

Have they no self respect? Don't they give a crap what others think about them? What self respecting Puta plays a guy for 2 bux and some silver?

Yeah, I told all my friends to bring down a "Happy meal" with them to get a woman Jan.

Disgusted,
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Arve

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Ehmmm... Exploitation...I don't buy that.. :) Tastes of feminism, and I hate that. :)

Now, I lack the minimum of decadence required to take advantage
of the opportunities I've had, but still. When I've been over there
I've always been swarmed by girls and a fair amount of guys. In
Boca Chica, the school where I used to teach, whenever I enter
a shopping center, go down Conde, visit a university, on the bus
etc etc.. I've got no dollars to wave but even if I had buddied up
with this bunch, aged between 12 to 60, I wouldnt consider it as
using them. :)

Same with places like Boca Chica. Sankies emptying the accounts
of women who gave them their card and code might be borderland cases but only just. To me it's just about negotiating
a deal between two or more people for a service and the cost of
it. The deal you get depends on how good you're as a negotiator.
A bad deal means you suck as a negotiator, but there's no exploitation methinks. :) Some of the gals working down there aren't that poor either, they can earn fortunes. :)

I've tried to ask about the exploitation, why they'd rather do what
they do and not earn a hole lot less working more hours instead.
They look at me and say they'd miss out on a hole lot of fun or
something. :)

Exploitation...bah... :)

Miss the attention I get there though, shame my time down there
seem to be at an end. *Sniff* :)
 

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I agree

Arve, Chris,jazzcom I have to agree with you. One of the highlights of my trip was in the Zanzibar cafe in BC and a mature( pretty decent looking) lady, Italian perhaps, was shopping for women, she found two, I bet they had a blast. When they left everyone was cracking up. Any time I try to have a normal conversation in BC after a few minutes it always ends up with a bored look in the girl's eyes and she says, you want to take me to your hotel, if I say no, before I can blink she is stalking the next tourist. In BC the girls exploit the tourists and many enjoy their "jobs", tell me it beats working. So if anyone wants to get sankiezed (for women, I'm including you as well) or for a man, dozens of women wanting to exploit your natural "resource," check out BC. Because of the neverending sexual assaults by the women I can only take BC for a couple of days, Santo Domingo is more my style. At least I can have a conversation with the lady without money being asked for, like a girlfriend experience, and then in the morning, because they aren't like the other women, so they say, they just want to go out to breakfast, some shopping, and then some money to buy a phone card to call you, or money for a taxi, yeah right. In the morning I take her out to breakfast and say here is some money for a cab without her having the chance to ask, and exploiting my financial resources.
Then it is to me to call her again, depending on how much I enjoyed her performance. In no other country do women fall in love so quickly ;) I have had several that professed undying love with just one day or two days. Well enough of my rambling, If I am an exploiter, go to BC or spend more than one day with a self proclaimed normal women in SD or another area, and you will realize who really is being exploited. Merry Christmas to all.
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Arve

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I don't think the girls/sankies there exploit anyone there either. I've seen tourists like me getting robbed from everything they've had and I never feel any pity. I just don't like the word "exploitation" as it makes my toes itch.

The girls in BC can be a nuisance but they know me now so they
know I'm dull and broke. Got loads of friends among them though so say hei from me and they might give you a discount.:)
I'm younger than most, got blue eyes and buy them beers even
though I don't go with them so we hang out. :) We also do great
duets in La Noria to some of the bachatas. I do discuss work
with them but if you want to have interesting conversations with someone in BC you have to get friendly with Dolores, the crazy one.

What disgusts me is the bit with the kids, but that's a different
topic.

I do have a parttime project with a bird I met elsewhere in Boca
Chica, no exploitation either but she's a lot more expensive than any of the other gals. :)

Merry christmas etc.
 

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good old Dolores

Arve,
Lord that lady is a trip. I am sure we are talking about the same one. Old lady who will try to get you to buy her drinks all day long. She's a trip. If I give any money to anyone for nothing, it is to the elderly people because who knows when they will get their next meal. They actually have a type of quiet dignity and call me soft if you will. Then there is that short, hunchback younger man who always is shirtless and all the tourists give him money, I bet you he is loaded, lol. I too am a younger man and I don't like to use the word, exploit, but I didn't start the thread. When I think of exploit I think of those sick child moleste.. I get riled up when I hear feminist garbage judging men. I wonder why those single German and European women come to the DR, must be only for the beaches, and they just need a male "tour guide" for the day and night. They couldn't possibly be using the male dominicans' natural resources;) The power of the North American woman is being threatened because finally some men have decided they don't need them and will go where they will be treated as a man and where there are no rules and silly little games. Arve, I don't need discounts but thanks for the offer, maybe in 20 years and 50 lbs heavier, when my looks are gone, I may have to take you up on that.
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Jan

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The first time here I had no idea what a sanky was. And yes, I paid if a male accompanied( but didn't do the sex thing) me because I knew I had money and he did,nt. And also I didn't want to feel obligated.
Came first time to Santo Domingo to meet a guy from the resort. Still didn't know what a sanky was. He told me he'd pay for the hotel and when he came up with the excuse that his friend was in a motorcycle wreck and he had to use the money to pay the hospital, I told him to leave. I wasn't paying for a gigilo! I have a foto of him calling a cab!
So really I can say I did not pay for sex. I bought beers and a sandwich. But never gave money. Guess I wasn't not your normal tourist. Maybe I'll have to go to another country and try it. See why everyone likes it so much. It's too late for me here. What would all the neighbors think!!??
 

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Hola dale and arve

you are my type of guys too bad you don't hang out in sosua. never listen to what azb says here. he's blinded from all those white chikas in santiago. its so bad that he runs around with sunglasses all the time.
We have our beach characters too. there is this little haitien fellow which is deaf and dumb, one of his legs is 5 inches shorter and people say he is gay.
I meet him sometimes in the carwash in the late afternoon and we smoke a cigar together. he smiles and makes only strange noises. X
 

Jan

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I love talking to some of the bums here. There is a guy that is in my park every morn in his boxers lifting concret blocks for evercise. He waves at me and does some weird hand movements and likes me to go to his house for a piece of pine. And got another character askes me to marry him everytime i see him! He asks for a cig, smiles and stands there and stares. I found how to make him go away. I ask him to buy me a beer and he leaves real fast! Then theres a crazy woman in the street. When she starts drinking she starts yelling and following people in the street complaining about politics. She does a great bailar o la perra!
I love the colorful people here!
 

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I've read so many posts from young canadian, european or american women who are madly in love and planning to marry a sanky and still refuse to acknowledge that he is one. Sure, some of these resort guys are hot, but the women must be lonely and they fall for their romantic lines and promises of eternal love in their cute accents. So, if they convince the girl to marry them, they've got it made. She's going to support him and his family. So, I agree with Dale. It's not like the Am/Can/Eur men are coming up to these pretty young DR women and begging them for sex. It's really sad that these women aren't able to have more opportunities for supporting themselves and have to resort to selling their bodies, but that's just the way it is.
 

Jan

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I see it everyday on the Conde. Nice looking Blondes with ugly dark men. And beautiful Dominican women-girls with old ugly white men. Very rarely are they matched look ways. One thing that botjhered me ..whhen I am with Dominican men friends or when I was with my man I got looks like I was with a Sanky also. But guess thats the way it is.
 

Arve

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Some have to sell their bodies I suppose and that'd be too bad..
But I don't think there's nothing wrong in prostitution as such,
it can be a fair way to earn a living. A few of my friends there
have unfortunately kicked the bucket cos of problems there, but
there's also a number that wouldnt take customers back home
cos the houses are too luxurious. Others marry a foreigner,
move abroad and when they go back to visit they go straight
back to the street. These gals have money but miss the fun.
Some do, others don't, nothing wrong as such in it. I'm fairly
amoral though. :)

As long as people don't bug me I see no reason not to treat them with a minimum of respect, be it a tourist, sankie, a girl or
even the adorable and totally nuts Dolores. I translate loveletters from the sankies so that they can send them to their
girls abroad. One had four girls and asked me to do four letters
of the "I need you, my heart needs you. When can you send me
money to visit you" sort.. I just told him to send the same letter
to all four, saved him from the hassle of making up four different
ones. :)

Dolores is crazy but nice, it's well worth buying her beers as you
can sit down and try to get a conversation out of her. Early in the evening you can also have a chat and share a cig with the
hunchback as well, he's ok. :) He'd be wearing a shirt by then,
not working until late. :) I never give money but I do buy beers..
Which effectively means the same as they'd be buying beers for
the money.. Milk for the kid..heheheh. :) Alegria I hate.

My problem has been the opposite. I do have a hole bunch of
friends there but never go with the girls ( though they crash in
for the night if they "can't make it back home" ), so people there
start wondering. Do I prefer guys?? That can be awkward.. And
as I used to teach I know a lot of kids and they often follow me,
people stare, talk and that's potentially dangerous.

I also get to play football ..that's soccer for most of you.. on the
beach with the sankies and toughtackling haitians. All in all it's
great fun and I don't really speculate much more about it.

Sosua. Will get there eventually. :)

Anyways, I'll soon have to start paying back my student loan so
give me a fiver and I'll be your love rhino forever. :)
 

Arve

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Ok, I'm swarming. :(

But Jan, I think that's the way it is... :)

I've got a soon-to-be-dumped part-time, female, Dominican friend. Yenny for short.. And I can't be seen with her in public cos
people will talk. :) I'm not too bothered but she is as she will have
to live there. Amazing how similar Boca Chica is to the dump that
I come from. Warmer still.

Nice girl though.. And don't look at me that way.
 

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I'm glad we are all using reasoning

I plan on traveling to the DR 3 times a year and I have heard about Sousa, X-Man, and if I ever run into you, buy you a few Presidentes. My last post on this thread is just have fun, whether you are a man or a woman. Enjoy the climate, the culture, sightseeing, and the lovemaking. Merry XXX-mas.
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