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    Thumbs down Why do we have blackouts?

    If you want to better understand the power situation here.
    This report makes for excellent reading:

    http://www.dr1.com/news/2003/082803_electricity.shtml

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    Talking LMA OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So true

    But I am one of the few that has to pay!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks Rob.
    Tim H.

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    Thanks Robert, this was good. Who is Frederico Martinez?

    I guess underlying the metaphor is the reality that no one is willing to pay the infrastructure costs necessary to improve the system.

    It's so weird... my dad was an electrical engineer, dealing in power from places like Nfld and Ontario, where the sources were pure and plenty.

    What about solar energy? Is it being used by many on the DR?

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    Solar energy is not a viable or cost-efficient source of energy in a developing country.

    On the other hand, I am surprised that people are not using wind energy considering how it blows in the afternoons here in the north coast. Probably the same situation as with solar energy, its not efficient enough (cost versus power produced).

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    Default Solar Panel

    We have a solar panel on the roof purely for our hot water in the main house. (Cannot give the installation costs as it was already here when we bought the place). It works well and produces sufficient hot water for all our needs.
    Did a 1 month test between the solar panel and the electric immersion heater. Guess what? The water heater cost us RD$1000 per month!!!!
    We now stick with the panel which produces ample hot/warm water even when it's dull and overcast.
    It would be interesting to find out the cost of a simple solar panel installation and then work out how long it would take to recover your initial investment? Maybe I'll do that and talk to Jim Belair's wife who I believe sells solar systems.
    There is a small blue and white house on the beach east of Cabarete which seems to have solar panels and wind props - perhaps we'll find out who owns that and ask him a few questions?

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    Default Solar Panel costs?

    Funnily enough just bumped into a guy who did the solar panel investigation in POP last week. 1 panel, 4 ft x 5 ft, costs around RD$30,000!
    At our cost saving on the water heater it would take 30 months to make the panel pay it's way?

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    Default Re: LMA OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Originally posted by Timex
    So true

    But I am one of the few that has to pay!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks Rob.
    Tim H.
    Hehe. You are the "saddled donkey".



    Oh god! So am I!

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    Default and what about computers?

    Thanks for comments about solar! I do love the idea, and of wind energy too.

    E & A it's great you've got one. I'd be really interested in knowing about that little blue house too. I know someone in the country who did a homemade version... he used solar minimally and it kept all his lights going at least-- nice in a blackout maybe.

    Conchman, what it is it about a developing country that makes it less viable? Damn, there's always a reason for it being so! I'm thinking about a friend on a farm in Ontario who would love to use wind energy-- the problem there is all the red tape; said red tape doubles the price of the windmill because, in reality, they want to keep everyone on the grid. The doubling of price is what keeps it from being viable for her family, otherwise they'd do it.

    So how do you handle your computers in all these blackouts?

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    FYI ...

    I haven't stopped in to check on the costs but there is a new Alternative Energy Store on a real (grass!) lot in the middle of downtown Santiago on Calle Restauracon somewhere near, maybe at 30 de Marzo. Check it out, I plan too.

    Solar panels do not cost that much. A full 7-10KW system might cost US$15K to US$20K but at the rates they charge for power here you'd have your money back in three years! That's a hell of a quick return compared to anywhere else in the world.

    As for solar for water heat, ah, sorry but, DUH! P&A all you need is to bury maybe 1000 feet of plastic pressure water tubes under your concrete or stone driveway/sidewalk/poolpatio, connect it to an old hot water tank, not connected to electricity, and -presto- instant hot water! The sun's so strong here that's a snap.

    Using a solar panel to heat the water down here is like swatting a mosquito on your forehead with a sledgehammer.

    Tom (aka XR)

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    Rob, is there a link to that article in Spanish that you have available?

    My translation skills aren't up to that. But, I want to share it with a lot of people that I've talked to lately who think that while El Burro is an idiot, the power situation is Lenonel's fault becuase he 'stole' the power companies from the people and 'gave' them to the Spanish.

    Tom (aka XR)

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