Taking pictures of models in the DR

ruben17

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Is it legal and not against the culture to photograph Dominican models between the ages of 14 and 23 in bikinis, skirts, jeans, dresses and other types of casual clothing?. This project is for a US modeling agency and is legal there. I figured it is also legal in the DR but still, can the police or parents try to take advantage of the situation to extort money from me? I'm aware that a model release signed by a parent is required if the model is underage.
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Hillbilly

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the reason that nobody has answered you

Is that it is a silly question.

Where are you going to get your models? From and agency, of course. And the agency will take care of the paper work.

Now if you are going to do some porn, then you might have a problem and we don't care if you get caught and go to our jails....

HB
 

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Hillbilly said:
Is that it is a silly question.

Where are you going to get your models? From and agency, of course. And the agency will take care of the paper work.

Now if you are going to do some porn, then you might have a problem and we don't care if you get caught and go to our jails....

HB


No, Sir, this is not a silly question. Maybe it is just a question you can't answer. I am NOT getting the models from any agency because I work for an agency that recruits models so WE are going to do the recruiting by OURSELVES. Please learn to read, I NEVER talked about porn. I CLEARLY stated I needed girls for posing in commercial outfits such as bikinis, skirts, jeans, etc. If people have not answered my question is because they don't know the answer and don't want to make a fool of themselves like you are doing.
 
ruben17

Oh my, you have rattled the chains of the gods with your terse response.
If you do not like the answers you get here, take the questions to some other forum for answers, we don't need people like you around with a pompous attitude. Don't read between the lines on any response.:speechles
 

ruben17

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Hlywud said:
Oh my, you have rattled the chains of the gods with your terse response.
If you do not like the answers you get here, take the questions to some other forum for answers, we don't need people like you around with a pompous attitude. Don't read between the lines on any response.:speechles

I do appreciate answers to my question. I don't appreciate ofensive unnecessary comments.
 

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If you are looking to recruit models outside an agency PM me, I can help, seriously.

My wife gets groups of models together frequently for photographers who come from overseas to do photo shoots, she has worked with most of the major modeling agencies in the country and knows all of the freelance models, as well as the agency models who are willing to take jobs on the side outside their agencies.
 

johne

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Dominican Babe said:
Haven't we been here before?

Yes - I recall the same tread where we talked about minors, Dominican jails etc. The poster was persistent for several days and then adios.

JOHN
 

Hillbilly

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Ruben, as you can see, you got a nice answer...

However, you have to admit that the possibility of something "not so legal" comes up very easily. Your question was filled with wonder, as if a country that has produced Miss Universes and Miss Worlds was totally unaware of modeling and all the exploitation that it entails.

As I said, you can ask the agencies. You did not say that you were going to work outside the agencies. You suspect that parents might want to exploit you? So we cannot think you might want to exploit the youngsters? You can, we can't?

Hey, I wish you all the good luck in the world. It will be another step forward in your career and for the careers of these models.

HB
 

ruben17

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First of all, I really don't know much about Dominican culture or economy because I have never been there. I don't expect the models to take advantage of me but since this is a very poor country and I have read some people have no ethics there, I figured I could run the risk of adult models or parents of underage models trying to take advantage in some way. Maybe it sounds too paranoid but, again, I don't know much about the country. My question was more of an ethics question. Regarding the legal aspect, it is obviously legal. Regarding exploiting the models, that's nonsense, they will be paid as much as US models for the same type of work. The reason we want Dominicans is because originally we needed to photograph Cubans in Havana but that wasn't possible because of government regulations that make it a real hassle to get a permit to do such work. Dominican Republic has places and people similar to those in Cuba as I have seen in pictures and videos. Thanks to all that have replied.
 
H O M E W O R K

You better do some quick, I have been to both countries many times and Cuba and its people is not remotely anything like the DR or its people, although they do have two similarities, both have mountains and they are both islands.
Pictures and video's do not tell you the real story, even the Barbara WAWA special on ABC a few years ago did not show the real Cuba, just the parts Fidel wanted them to see.
 

ruben17

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Hlywud said:
You better do some quick, I have been to both countries many times and Cuba and its people is not remotely anything like the DR or its people, although they do have two similarities, both have mountains and they are both islands.
Pictures and video's do not tell you the real story, even the Barbara WAWA special on ABC a few years ago did not show the real Cuba, just the parts Fidel wanted them to see.

I know they're different culturally and politically but what I meant was that you can find mulattas in DR that look like Cuban mulattas. Also, the DR has many colonial buidings that are very similar to those in Cuba, not to mention the similarity in beaches, countryside, etc. So, from my perspective, I could do some shooting in the DR and make it look like it was done in Cuba. This happens in movies everytime and I don't want to offend anybody.
 

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Take care

Ruben my island is not as poor as you may think. I do not agree about comparing the Dominican Rep. with other islands. I will remind you that there are no aboriginal people in the Dominican Rep. You better contact a modelling agency if you wish to still take photos of Dominican women.

And please don't compare the Island with any other place because we are proud of being an independent and peaceful place.

You are welcomed to come to the Dominican Rep.
In Santo Domingo there is a guy called Robert Flores he is having a modelling agency, you can find him at Frito Verde Bar, 27 de Febrero Blvd.

Homer Simpson
 

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simpson Homer said:
Ruben my island is not as poor as you may think. I do not agree about comparing the Dominican Rep. with other islands. I will remind you that there are no aboriginal people in the Dominican Rep. You better contact a modelling agency if you wish to still take photos of Dominican women.

And please don't compare the Island with any other place because we are proud of being an independent and peaceful place.

You are welcomed to come to the Dominican Rep.
In Santo Domingo there is a guy called Robert Flores he is having a modelling agency, you can find him at Frito Verde Bar, 27 de Febrero Blvd.

Homer Simpson

Thank you, Homer, for your valuable comments and information. Please don't be offende with my comparisons. I KNOW your country is not Cuba or any other country. I don't know how poor it is because I never been there and only base my opinion on what I have read HERE on the message boards. I assume it is better off than Cuba in many aspects. However, as far as ethnicity and scenery goes, there is a resemblance which allows me to work there and get the same results I would get in Cuba if only the US government and the Cuban government would allow me but as many of you know, neither of these two countries is free and both try to control every activity of their citizens.
 

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Letme see if I got this right

You are an American photog.
You want to take pictures of a youthful demographic
But you want the youths to be Cuban or look Cuban?

Why on earth would you want to do that? Cubans don't have clothes that are fashionable. they hardly have any clothes at all?

You would automatically alienate every Cuban-American as a potential client for what youwant to sell.

If you want to go tropical, okay, fine and good. But don't go using Dominican stuff and say or infer it is Cuban...When the Godfather and Havana were shot here, it was done because (a) it was a movie for God's sake and (b) Old Spanish Colonial Architecture in Santo Domingo was closer here, cheaper here than in Mexico or Guatemala or Colombia, AND the people looked more Cuban than the Cubans!!

Have you requested permission to go to Cuba from the State Department? They are a lot easier nowadays..

HB
 

johne

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HB -you should

be charging this guy for the marketing and business advise!!! LOL

JOHN
 

ruben17

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Re: Letme see if I got this right

Hillbilly said:
You are an American photog.
You want to take pictures of a youthful demographic
But you want the youths to be Cuban or look Cuban?

Why on earth would you want to do that? Cubans don't have clothes that are fashionable. they hardly have any clothes at all?

You would automatically alienate every Cuban-American as a potential client for what youwant to sell.

If you want to go tropical, okay, fine and good. But don't go using Dominican stuff and say or infer it is Cuban...When the Godfather and Havana were shot here, it was done because (a) it was a movie for God's sake and (b) Old Spanish Colonial Architecture in Santo Domingo was closer here, cheaper here than in Mexico or Guatemala or Colombia, AND the people looked more Cuban than the Cubans!!

Have you requested permission to go to Cuba from the State Department? They are a lot easier nowadays..

HB


lol thanks! well, I am not looking for fashionable clothing nor super models, just common people. I really don't care much about Cuban Americans but I am sure they would also buy the product because they still love their country. It iis not a big deal to do some shooting in the DR and make it look like it was done in Cuba, it happens all the time in movies and photography. For example, a movie about the Amazon may be filmed in Costa Rica. I don't want to offend anybody, I just want to do my project and most americans in the USA will not see the difference between a Dominican and a Cuban just like they don't see the difference between a Mexican and a Salvadorean or an Italian from a Spaniard. I have requested assistance from the State Department but you get a fine of 10,000 USD if you spend money in Cuba because you are giving money to Castro, according to the US government. Also, the Cuban government won't allow me to do the shooting unless I pay some big bribes to some officials there. I can always do it without a permit but why risk it? I'd rather go to the Dominican Republic. Maybe I should try Veracruz in Mexico ;-)
 

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Great thread!

ruben17, how about coming down for a weekend and taking a look? This way all your questions will be answered.

I'm sure you will find the features and looks your looking for here. Also I'm sure the back drops will work as well.

Over the years a few production companies have used the DR as a substitute to Cuba as many people just can't tell the difference. Recently a very highly rated British drama was filmed in Santo Domingo (Colonial Zone). The show was about the re-building of the British Embassy in Havana :)

http://dr1.com/travelnews/archive/2003/tnews042203.html
 

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ruben17 said:
Is it legal and not against the culture to photograph Dominican models between the ages of 14 and 23 in bikinis, skirts, jeans, dresses and other types of casual clothing?. This project is for a US modeling agency and is legal there. I figured it is also legal in the DR but still, can the police or parents try to take advantage of the situation to extort money from me? I'm aware that a model release signed by a parent is required if the model is underage.
Thanks!
I know were you are coming from. I have heard of many agencies that would go to another country and take pictures and then say that the pictures were taken at another location/country. Try visiting the DR and get familiarized with the people and their model agencies. If you need help with anything, you can go to SuperPagesDR.com and get in contact with model agencies and they can tell you exactly what to do. You may change your mind and give credit to the DR and the dominican models. Good luck and PLEASEEEEEE don't forget to post some of those pics on the DR1 gallery. Pretty plissssssssss.
 

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Hlywud said:
Oh my, you have rattled the chains of the gods with your terse response.
If you do not like the answers you get here, take the questions to some other forum for answers, we don't need people like you around with a pompous attitude. Don't read between the lines on any response.:speechles


you dont even know who the gods are... huh. looks like you and that hillbilly have something in common...both of you are rude dogfaced pigs .. huh Hlywud... you and that hillbilly cant change the fact that underage porn garbage is around in this world .tuh humen scum
 
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