900 US Troops on the Border

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Things that make you go "humn":

1. I remember reading a while ago that 900 US troops are and have been stationed on the Haitian border on a rotating basis for at least a year. Were they there when the Haitian "commandos" crossed into Haiti to drive out Aristide? Were they there when these Haitian rebels acquired their guns, uniforms, flack jackets and training on the Dominican side of the border?

2. Are we really to believe that the DR air force evacuated foreigners from its embassy in Port-au-Prince - operating numerous missions over a period of a week? Where were the choppers serviced and fueled? Who were the pilots? Inquiring minds want to know.

3. Is it not odd that the rebels were armed with M-16s but without the ubiquitous RPGs that any rebel army worth its salt would have? Was this because the CIA has learned that the really nasty weapons can sometimes end up being used against Americans?

4. All of that said, does anyone have an idea why the US cared one iota about ousting Aristide? He wasn't Bush's house ni--ger like Hipolito (and what a wonderful "get out of jail free" card being Bush's house ni--ger appears to be), but he wasn't buddy-buddy with Castro/Chavez either. I think only history may tell.
 

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Porfio ... Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Porfio_Rubirosa said:
All of that said, does anyone have an idea why the US cared one iota about ousting Aristide? He wasn't Bush's house ni--ger like Hipolito (and what a wonderful "get out of jail free" card being Bush's house ni--ger appears to be), but he wasn't buddy-buddy with Castro/Chavez either. I think only history may tell.
This was really necessary? It's easy to deride someone you don't know, but I know the man personally and that's rubbish to even think he thinks like that. It's also offensive to me. The President acts in ways he thinks is best for the U.S. whatever anyone else thinks of that. There may be reasons to attack the actions, but not using skin color to base it on. Please remember that U.S. policy shifts with the party in office, and GB's principles are 180 degrees reversed from the previous party's "President", when he wasn't still searching for his "core values". Makes for a schizophrenic foreign policy sometimes, I agree.

Tom aka XR Not one shred of evidence exists to support the notion that life is serious.
 

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My humble opinion

What we have here is a situtation where the current leader could only keep power at the risk of destroying the country even more. We have a rebellion that for the most part was pretty tame as far as rebellions go.
The American governemt said no we will not get involved. So Airistede was left with either going down in a blaze of glory or leaving. The American government helped him escape and the rebels delayed the entrance of the capitol to give it time so as to reduce futher destruction.
Hate to say it the US chose the lesser of two evils. It was easier for the US to help get Aristede out and then hope to have influence over the new management rather than further support of Aristede.
As far as guns go the M16 is under $300 a copy and not hard to come by.
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I Don'nt Like The Use Of Racial Slurs

I Don'nt Like The Use Of Racial Slurs. Can'nt We Talk Without That Garbage? And Why Is It Tolerated On This Site? Do You Use This Langage In The Presence Of These People? I Rather Dought It. You Would'nt Like It, IF Was Used Against You, Nobody Would. STOP THE MADNESS......
 
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XanaduRanch said:
There may be reasons to attack the actions, but not using skin color to base it on. Please remember that U.S. policy shifts with the party in office, and GB's principles are 180 degrees reversed from the previous party's "President", when he wasn't still searching for his "core values". Makes for a schizophrenic foreign policy sometimes, I agree.

First, the term "house ni--er" has nothing to do with "skin color" and everything to do with being a cooperative little quasi-slave who always gets more biscuits than the ones with independent thought. If that term caught the attention of the knee-jerk, "stop the madness", types out there, then good! Hipolito, if you haven't noticed, is white, and house ni--er is still the best term to describe his relationship to Bush.

Second, I hope you're not saying that Bush is Anti-Aristide simply because Clinton was pro-Aristide, though it wouldn't suprise me if you were and if that were official policy.

Aristide was democratically elected. Aristide was not talking with Castro/Chavez. Artistide was not harboring "terrorists". What the hell was this, then? Texas speculates CIA and/or DEA. This along with US cooperation in the attempted coup in Venezuela really exposes the Republicans as having an agenda that has little to do with promoting democracy.
 

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Texas speculates CIA and/or DEA

Porfio_Rubirosa said:
Aristide was democratically elected. Aristide was not talking with Castro/Chavez. Artistide was not harboring "terrorists". What the hell was this, then? Texas speculates CIA and/or DEA. This along with US cooperation in the attempted coup in Venezuela really exposes the Republicans as having an agenda that has little to do with promoting democracy.

In the missing thread The Boarder is Closed there were several mentions of the CIA and the "DIA", Defense Intelligence Agency. . .

. . . CES
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Word Speak

;) You Seem To Understand The English Language. My Post Was About Using Racial Slurs. Simply, That It Is Unnessary And Adds Nothing To The Conversation. I Agree That There Is Plenty Of Political Corruption To Go Around. It Is A Cancer. Just Like Racist Speech. As We All Know Corruption Must Be Fed With Rhetoric.You Are Seeing That Example Everyday In The DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. ie (Free Elections)
 

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I heard on Pacifica radio for the last two days how Aristide was taken out of the Palace in handcuffs, escorted by 12 US marines. Looks like a overthrow by the US. A ABC reported had a 5am interview and witnessed this. Aristide spoke to Maxine Waters and told her he was kidnapped. Tom F.
 

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what happened to the missing thread? Who why how?

on the lighter side :

It's also offensive to me. The President acts in ways he thinks is best for the U.S. whatever anyone else thinks of that. -X

X your always there for a good laugh, glad to have you around, you make me smile. Nice to know there is still innocence in the world.

-Lee
 

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ltsnyder said:
on the lighter side :



X your always there for a good laugh, glad to have you around, you make me smile. Nice to know there is still innocence in the world.

-Lee
He has been acting in my best interests!

You have to remember that when a conservative uses the N word it is a racist slur. When a Liberal uses it it is "Artistic license" and freedom of expression.

So far I have only seen 2 photos of M-16 type weapons being used by the "rebels" in Haiti. Both are of dubious origins. I have yet to see any verifiable video. Still doesn't matter. It is all just consiracy theory.

RPGs are Soviet era weapons. Hard to come by in the Western Hemisphere unless from Cuba or Peru.

Aristide was installed by the US Goverment after his first ouster. he had his chance abd blew it big time. His negotiated resignation and evacuation helped prevent what was sure to be a bloodbath. Of course some people can not handle the fact the US did the right thing.

U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters claims that Aristide told here over the phone that he was kidnapped by US forces and taken from Haiti. This is the same Maxine Waters who said that "her people" would burn down L.A. if O.J. Simpson was found guilty.

Why should anybody be surprised that 20 Haitians snuck across the border from the DR? Hundreds sneak across the border ever day comming into the DR. I am sure that the military does not have Haitians sneaking back into Haiti as a high priority!
 

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I agree with "Happy Dude"!

I find the use of "House Nig*er" offenssive,racist,ignorant,and intolerable in this Forum! Your subsequent "disclaimer" that the "Slur" has nothing to do with "color" is at best stupid! Don't use it again,or you will not be back!!! First Warning!! Moderator Cris Colon
 

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Chirimoya said:
Is calling Haitians 'bastards' 'offenssive,racist,ignorant,and intolerable in this Forum', as well, moderator?

Ref: www.dr1live.com/showthread.php?t=29769

Chiri

NICE one Chiri!!!!! Glad to see someone else is awake on this forum too!!

Come on CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc what is good for one, is GOOD for another!! As the Man once said, Physician go heal yourself!! - Grahame.
PS - I TOO regret the use of ANY foul language & refrain from using it 99% of the time. It DOES appear to be far too easy to get away using it on this board however. Why can't we endeavour to stop ALL foul language - it doesn't contribute anything except show the user's lack of ability to express him/herself in proper English or Spanish!! - Grahame.
 

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Great work, Moderator. Never was there such a misnomer.

The 'Invitation to a public meeting on Haiti' thread has been deleted in its entirety, even though it contained some useful information and interesting DR-related debate, marred only by the offensive comments I mentioned. The meeting has already happened, but the thread also contained contact information and other details.

It might interest you to hear that the 'invitation' was posted with Robert's blessing.

Thank you very much, Cris, for showing your true colours, and Larry, for your contribution to that thread.

Chiri
 

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Moderating this Forum is like being a street sweeper in New York!!!

There is only so much "****" I can clean up!!! "Chiri" I deleted your "Haitian Rally" post for you,what more do you want??? Although Haitians seem to be a rather uneducated group,and they do "Smell",they too are "God's Children" and deserve to be treated with the same respect we all deserve!CC

PS,After reading "Chiri's" post. As I read through all the posts of the "Haitian Meeting" thread(Per your "PM" request!) I found it impossible to take the time to "Delete" all the personaL INSULTS YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT(INCLUDING YOURS,AS YOU REQUESTED!)They were too numerous! It was more efficient to delete the entire thread! If you wish to re-post any references,or information,please do so.Sometimes the "Baby is thrown out along with the bath water"!
Just another example of how a Moderator is "Damned if we do,and damned if we don,t"!!!!

Luckily Robert has a medical bio-potentiometer,to measure "skin thickness"before we can be hired!!!No thick skin,no job!!!

Normally I don't feel the need to justify my "Moderationing",you should feel blessed!CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC :tired:
 
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I am extremely pissed off about you deleting that thread. It contained lots of useful information, not to you, perhaps, but to other users of DR1 who come here to seek all sorts of information. From now on, only those wanting to know where to find knocking shops need apply.

You could have just deleted the 'bastard' comments as I requested.

Chiri
 

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limitless possibilities

Great news! From now on, every time someone posts a new thread, and for whatever reason, personal prejudice or whim, someone takes exception to the subject, they just have to reply with some offensive comment, and the whole thread gets zapped.

Just for reference. There were two posts where Haitians were described as 'bastards' and one where I said the person who posted this had a 'nasty, narrow little mind'. Such hard work.

Chiri
 

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"Chiri" you should quit while you are ahead!

You are starting to sound hysterical!Like nothing will please you!This is a message board,not the International Court in La Haig!cc
 
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