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Vos/Vosotros

MaineGirl said:

"Vos" vs. "vosotros"

Why is "vosotros" not in common usage?

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Are actually in common use in Spain and less commonly but used in some South American countries just not the DR, Mexico, Central America etc. Most or many good Spanish instructional books will go over where it is used, maybe even why it is still in some places and not others.

Funny, that, MG: I was thinking of posting a question on a similar topic.

'Vos' is archaic, it has fallen out of use in Spain and most parts of Latin America. It survives in Argentina, Uruguay, some Central American countries and in Colombia and Ecuador. In some of these countries, it is used instead of t?. In some, t? is (I think) the more familiar, vos being somewhere in between t? and usted. Or is it the other way round?

Vosotros - the informal second person plural - is only used in Spain these days, and in some Spanish literature and religious texts. It is less common in the south, where ustedes is more common, as in Latin America.

It is, as you say, the plural of 'vos'. the correct form is '?como estais?' (vosotros but you don't need to specify it) meaning how are you? (plural).

Chiri

Vos/Vosotros

I have heard that is more commonly used in Argentina.

I asked 1 of my Dominican friends about the usage of vos/vosotros as I was reading a Spanish grammar book a few years ago and he said that sometimes the lower classes of DR use this form (perhaps to sound more sophisticated). Sure enough, we came across some girls in Ambis who addressed me as "vos."

Has anyone else heard this?

aranoid: Aunts? Who said aunts? aranoid:

Chiri

As Chirimoya says, Vos is used still in sudaca countries like Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, Colombia, etc. and it is specially notorious in Guatemala.
Vosotros is more used in Spain but it still is used by some sudacas, just no those near the caribean nor central amercia nor the islands.

I would not quite say these forms of grammar are archaic or in extinction since these are still widely used by millions of sudacas and spaniards and are still being taught at schools all over the world.

"Che, pibe, vos miraste el gol de Diego?"

In Argentina, the 'vos' is very much in vogue, especially in the popular speech. In some areas, perhaps Guatemala, the use of 'vos' among indiginous people is accepted but its use by "whites" in addressing "indians" is regarded as an insult. (Or something like that. It's been a long, long time.)

Vos and Vosotros are, generally speaking, well out of use in most of the Spanish speaking world, tu sabes?

As a teacher, you have the obligation to teach the fact that it exists, but vos pod?s olvidar su uso diario, che pibe!

HB

Note: ESPN Latin American has a bunch of programs on "f?tbol" from Argentina. You can really hear the use of "vos" on those programs...