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martino

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I can not sleep. It has been two weeks since vacation. I over drank on my last two nights at Sunscape Punta Cana Grand and was violated. The first night, a security guard at the elevator of the Disco ,walked me to my room. The 2nd night I was not lucky. The last night of my stay the Security Guard at the elevator took me to what I think to be the third floor and I got taken. I saw his badge name and I just emailed the hotel because I am so messed up. I am taking all these STD tests plus VIH. I am mad, sad, feeling guilty, feeling stupid, feeling ashamed. The hotel has not responded to my email. Is this creep still working there? Is he waiting for more women to come out of the Disco?
 

pati

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I am sorry to here about your experience. No one has the right to force themselves on anyone. Having said that I must say that could have happened anywhere. Maybe you should consider not getting so liquored up that you need to rely on others to get you back home. Your story has been echoed by hundreds of women in the US who party too hard and find themselves in bad situations such as you have. Please do yourself a favor and clean up your act. Drinking doesn't solve anyone's problems.It only creates more. If you can't have a good time without drinking/drugs then maybe you need to change what's wrong in your life so that you can enjoy life sober.A friend of mine had a simular experience here in the US so I know it won't be easy but you need to move on. Learn from it and put it behind you.I wish you the best of luck.
 

simpson Homer

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I don't really think the hotel will answer your email, they may need enough information about what happen also. They will be doubting about you because you did not report that person next day or before you leave that hotel have around 700 rooms and is not that big also is under patrol from the Marines. About VIH test, Hotel worker has to pass that test before start working at the Hotel and some hotel keep doing those test often. I will recomend you to get in touch to the Apple Vacations head office in Chicago or any head office in US. Because that Hotel is operated by Apple Vacation.

Sorry for your situation,

Homer


martino said:
I can not sleep. It has been two weeks since vacation. I over drank on my last two nights at Sunscape Punta Cana Grand and was violated. The first night, a security guard at the elevator of the Disco ,walked me to my room. The 2nd night I was not lucky. The last night of my stay the Security Guard at the elevator took me to what I think to be the third floor and I got taken. I saw his badge name and I just emailed the hotel because I am so messed up. I am taking all these STD tests plus VIH. I am mad, sad, feeling guilty, feeling stupid, feeling ashamed. The hotel has not responded to my email. Is this creep still working there? Is he waiting for more women to come out of the Disco?
 

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pati said:
I am sorry to here about your experience. No one has the right to force themselves on anyone. Having said that I must say that could have happened anywhere. Maybe you should consider not getting so liquored up that you need to rely on others to get you back home. Your story has been echoed by hundreds of women in the US who party too hard and find themselves in bad situations such as you have. Please do yourself a favor and clean up your act. Drinking doesn't solve anyone's problems.It only creates more. If you can't have a good time without drinking/drugs then maybe you need to change what's wrong in your life so that you can enjoy life sober.A friend of mine had a simular experience here in the US so I know it won't be easy but you need to move on. Learn from it and put it behind you.I wish you the best of luck.

Typical response. I guess she got what she deserved huh?? But it didnt happen anywhere.
 

pati

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I'm not saying she got what she deserves. If you read what I wrote. I stated "no one has the right to force themselves on anyone".You're right, it didn't happen just anywhere but since it wasn't some guy lurking around the corner that just snatched her up maybe this type of thing could have been avoided. Something for her to think about so that she doesn't find herself in that situation again no matter where she is.
 

AnnaC

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I'm very sorry that his happened to you but I'm also wondering why you didn't report it right away while you were still in the country. Getting an email after the fact isn't very affective.
 

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You have 2 choices.
Fly back to the DR and press charges against that SOB or move on with your life.
Sending e-mails and writting letters from home will just prolong your pain and, I hate to say it, accomplish nothing.

Your only other choice is to sue the tour operator in the US. Of course that is if you have any proof or evidence to substantiate your incident.

Before anybody makes any more comments about the rape issue you must remember that we have nothing to go on but her word. We don't know what really happened or if it really happened at all.
I can go on with many scenarios. evrything from her being a true victim of the terrible crime of rape to a woman who is now vindictive because the guy just had consensual sex with her and dumped her.
We don't know. I just don't want to see any posts defending her just because she is a woman and it must be true. A good friend of mine was once accused and arrested for rape. It was in all the papers. He was totally exonerated later on and in fact the woman was charged and convicted with perjury and pressing false charges. Didn't matter. My friend's life was ruin and was forced to move accross country and start his life all over.
 

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I believe this girl. And yes, girls find themselves in situations like that because for the life of me, they just don't use common sense; however, that doesn't excuse the fact that the guy did commit a crime; for no man, and I repeat, no man has the right to violate a woman under any circumstance.

Unfortunately, I agree that it's too late to take any action now. These things are difficult to proove in the US, let alone in a third world country such as this one.

One thing that she should do, is file a formal complaint with the top management of the hotel. And make sure it gets to the top. The best thing to do is to find out the names of the General Manager and everyone he/she reports to. Then Fed Ex a letter to their attention (someone has to sign that the letter was received) to make sure they get it. They will more than likely do nothing, but if they get enough complaints on the same individual, they will probably fire him.

Better luck next time, and stay sober.

Corky
 
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Larry

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Martino,
I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. Hopefully you haven't contracted anything. Don't blame yourself. If I were you, I woundn't go about trying to seek legal justice because I would expect you to meet frustrating obstacles that would just upset you, drag this on keeping the incident "fresh" in your mind, and impede your emotional healing process. Make peace with yourself and try to move on with your life.
Larry
 

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martino said:
I can not sleep. It has been two weeks since vacation. I over drank on my last two nights at Sunscape Punta Cana Grand and was violated. The first night, a security guard at the elevator of the Disco ,walked me to my room. The 2nd night I was not lucky. The last night of my stay the Security Guard at the elevator took me to what I think to be the third floor and I got taken. I saw his badge name and I just emailed the hotel because I am so messed up. I am taking all these STD tests plus VIH. I am mad, sad, feeling guilty, feeling stupid, feeling ashamed. The hotel has not responded to my email. Is this creep still working there? Is he waiting for more women to come out of the Disco?
As stated in the other forum where you posted, you need to get a lawyer and try and resolve this big problem. If you really want to feel better, this is not the right way to do it. Many in this forum will eat you alive and trust me, you will end up feeling worse than how you feel now. I am not saying that they would be wrong or right, I am just saying that, as you know, people have a difference in opinions. Some, as I, WILL have a few questions to ask. Some will doubt your story, some will say that you asked for it, some will say that you have a drinking problem and some will even say that you deserve it. The end result is that you will feel violated once again. Do yourself a favor and get a lawyer and ask him/her what you should do. I am so very sorry for what happened to you. I can not even start to imagine the hell that is your life right now. Take care and I hope the best for you.
 

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...and your family doctor right now is your best friend. Consult with him about your medical tests, but also please consider councilling, as this type of incident can be life damaging. Your mental health is as important if not even more important as your physical health. You can choice several courses of action, to help you heal from this ordeal, the most important being your course of action in regards to your state of mind. Your family doctor can direct you and here is hoping you can stay strong to work through this ordeal.
Believe in your self and get the help you deserve.
Toby
 

Fiesta Mama

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I'm sorry

The only reason I am replying to this is to say that I have been in your shoes as far as drinking too much in a foreign country. AI's (and holidays in general, especially the DR where drinking is the norm and soooo cheap) enourage people to lose control on alcohol. I have drank too much on some of my holidays there, to the point where some nights are a mystery to me because when I woke up the next morning I could remember nothing, and this is not safe. I would like to impress upon any woman (or man), stay in control!!! Yes the alcohol is free, but be wise and don't let it become your enemy as you have found out in this situation. All the best on being able to move on becuase if you don't receive satisfactory responses from the hotel (which are unlikely), I hope you won't let this hold you back with your life in the U.S. Learn from it.
 

Flor

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So sorry

My sincerest sympathies go to you. I would go to your doctor, confide in a friend, and ask the friend to call the hotel and speak to the manager at once - this may cause you some pain, but at least you've done what you can. Do the same with your tour operator. They may or may not deal with the problem, but at least then you've done EVERYTHING you can to make sure this does not happen to another woman. I can't preach to you or judge you - I have no right to do so. Neither do I think that a drunken person is 'asking for it' or that this is your fault. It's not. However, it alarms me to read that someone was this drunk two nights in a row, with someone having to help her back to her room. The hotels cannot be blamed for this - yes the drinks are part of your package - this does not mean you have to intoxicate yourself with alcohol; the only person who decides how much you drink is you. For your own sake, please be careful. I wish you well.
 

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Just some advice on the legal angle of this. I experienced a similar situation while working at a resort here in Canada except it happened in my own home. He broke in through a window and left the same way. He was a worker that I spoke to a few times. I pressed charges and the crown attorney dropped the case because of the fact that there wasn't enough evidence. The screen cut out of the window and his hat dropped next to the window as well as my own personal testimony apparently wasn't enough.
At that point I had had enough and he was released out into the public to do this again. It does take ALOT to even be able to feel safe again. Lucky for me I was only there for a summer job so was easily able to come back to my hometown. I don't think I'll ever be able to go near that town again though.

Altho I know that each case is different and yours can be successfull I know first hand how lame the legal system is here in Canada at least. Often the perp is more protected then the victim.

So I wish you the best and seek out you're friends and family...I know it can be embarassing to tell them but really I couldn't have gotten through it without their support. You are not the person in the wrong. Take Care.
 

pati

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Pati you are an idiot. It's not her fault this happened because she drank too much.

If I'm an idiot, you're illiterate. Where in my post did I write that it was her fault? All I said is that she should stop putting herself at risk. If you think it's wrong of me to tell her that then maybe you're the idiot.
 

pati

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If you're so smart then tell me where in my post did I say it was her fault.
 

CanadianCutie22

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Maybe its not in the exact words that you wrote but what it is that you were trying to intimate whether on purpose or without knowing. The fact that she was intoxicated at the time plays a very small role in the event that ocurred.

While staying at a different resort we were given only one room key between 2 people. Many times we'd be doing our own thing and when it came time to go back to the room the one without the key had to rely on security to escort them. In this case being intoxicated or sober would not have any effect on the situation. If a perp wants to get his fun out of someone they can and will do so whatever state the victim is in.
 

AnnaC

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For heaven sakes would you all get off pati's back. She said what others have said but in different words and everyone else gets on the ban wagon without reading what she wrote. I see nothing in her post about being martino's fault.

Good grief! :surprised