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    Default You know, looking back at that closed thread,

    the one that asked "What don't you like about the DR?" , it seems to me that many of us agreee with palmsandgarbage, I just think we didn't like the way he expressed himself. Too vitriolic.

    Mentioned: Garbage all over the place
    Dead animals along the road
    Refuse on the beaches and alongside the roadway.

    I saw TP hanging from a bush as i was on my way to Sosua yesterday, and thought about the thread...

    Looks like a letter writing campaign is needed and some pro-activity.

    HB

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    Default Indeed!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbilly
    the one that asked "What don't you like about the DR?" , it seems to me that many of us agreee with palmsandgarbage, I just think we didn't like the way he expressed himself. Too vitriolic.

    Mentioned: Garbage all over the place
    Dead animals along the road
    Refuse on the beaches and alongside the roadway.

    I saw TP hanging from a bush as i was on my way to Sosua yesterday, and thought about the thread...

    Looks like a letter writing campaign is needed and some pro-activity.

    HB
    Mr Hillbilly, I do agree with him that there is alot of garbage, dead animals on the road, no lights, etc. What I don't agree with him is when he tries to say that the whole country is like that. I have been to a few countries that have the same problems and I did not go to a DR site and started saying negative things about that country. Granted, those problems would never stop me from going to those counties where I saw the above. Him and Bruinhurter, that by the way I think are the same people, had an agenda. I did asked them a few questions ant they never responded to them. I just needed for them to let me know exactly where they lived(streets and all) just to see if they did not had the same problems where they lived.
    By the way, today I saw a dead raindeer on the road and I don't live in the DR.

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    I saw dead deer all the time along the road when i lived in the US. Once I even saw a dead raccoon.

    I used to have to commute through newark NJ and the trash was everywhere.

    Ill never go back there and I will tell all my friends what a horrible place it was.

    GET REAL!!!

    This guy went to the worst possible places in the country looking for trouble and things to complain about....

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    Default bathwater and baby...

    I think what Hillbilly is saying is that we should not 'throw out the baby with the bathwater'. There are obviously problems with disposal of garbage.

    What kind of pro-activity and letter writing campaign do you envisage HB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris
    I think what Hillbilly is saying is that we should not 'throw out the baby with the bathwater'. There are obviously problems with disposal of garbage.

    What kind of pro-activity and letter writing campaign do you envisage HB?
    In all honesty....even if this guy was full of crap, and was just starting a fight, he did get our attention, and in the back of our mind, we knew some of his replies were true, in the capital at least I saw alot of cleaning crew's in black and yellow suit's trying to keep things nice and neat, but clearly they are overwhelmed wtih the hustle and bustle of everyday life in that Big city, not even in the U.S. major cities especially (N.Y.C.) can all the trash be contained, and if you also notice..just as an observer...look around D.R. there are not alot of city trash can's around,for as long as I can remember most Dominican's are still burning there trash, or just simply tossing it in a stack of woods or something, these things I've experienced living in the island, I mean someday's I would buy something in the street like a beverage and when I was finished there was no where to throw it out, so either you stayed with the trash all day or lay it on the ground right where you stand, maybe the government can start with a simple trash can along the city and offer jobs for more clean up crew's.

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    The guy was a baby and a complainer or he had some kind of hidden adgenda. Garbage is a problem where he comes from too.

    Now if you take the following approach: 1) I love the DR for all of these reasons...A,B,C... 2) The reason I live or want to live in the DR is because of the above reasons. 3) Despite A,B,C, there is one thing that I would like to see change and that is the garbage situation. 4) Here is an overture to solving that problem.....

    Taking the above approach, he, or anyone else would not sound like so much of a whiner but more like a concerned individual who identifies a problem and makes a proposal to help alleviate it. Thereby opening up an intelligent discourse aimed toward progress....not foot stomping.

    Larry

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    Default Oye esto!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by daddy1
    In all honesty....even if this guy was full of crap, and was just starting a fight, he did get our attention, and in the back of our mind, we knew some of his replies were true, in the capital at least I saw alot of cleaning crew's in black and yellow suit's trying to keep things nice and neat, but clearly they are overwhelmed wtih the hustle and bustle of everyday life in that Big city, not even in the U.S. major cities especially (N.Y.C.) can all the trash be contained, and if you also notice..just as an observer...look around D.R. there are not alot of city trash can's around,for as long as I can remember most Dominican's are still burning there trash, or just simply tossing it in a stack of woods or something, these things I've experienced living in the island, I mean someday's I would buy something in the street like a beverage and when I was finished there was no where to throw it out, so either you stayed with the trash all day or lay it on the ground right where you stand, maybe the government can start with a simple trash can along the city and offer jobs for more clean up crew's.
    The only reason that he got our attention was by bad-mouthing the whole country. He did not say anything that we did not already know. We know that there is trash and dead animals on the road, name me a country that does not have a garbage problem, in some part of that country, rich or poor?.

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    If you lived here in North Carolina, driving down the road avoiding dead deer, racoons, etc. is like playing one of the arcade video games.

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    Default Seems that sane minds are thinking.

    Yesterday at our normal, everyday family lunch, my son, the golfer, told me that he had gone to Las Terrenas to an Easter Week Bash out there, and drove through San Francisco de Macoris. His comment:

    "Papa, the city is really, really clean and neat. It is developping like crazy and is all built up. It was really nice, I thought I was someplace else!"

    There was more but this has to be symptomatic of something positive.

    I was thinking,( yes, I do too!), that a letter writing to the editors of the different papers might make an impact. Coming from all over the Western Hemisphere. And letters to Frank Moya Pons at the Environmental ministry.

    I am sure that Dolores can get us the address and email addresses...

    Just a sort of ground swell beginning?

    RE: Racoons. In Tenn. it is now legal to cook road kill for your personal consumption.


    HB

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    Hill - Now we're talking. Finally, someone has given specifics on what we can do about curtailing the garbage. You bring on the email addresses and let's rally for all DR1 members to burn the keyboards up. (I'll have to have someone translate my english before I send though)

    As far as road kill, I've seen dead mules on the same road bruinhunter was on; but they're never there more than a day or 2. heck, I see dead deer here in Kentucky on the side of the road. Funny thing though, before nightfall, someone has chopped it's head off for a wall trophy and left the carcass.

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