Hardware computer problem. Help!!!!!!!

Black Screen Message

Could be:
1-Windows problem, to correct reinstall windows.
2-hardware problem, MB or HD, most likely a defective MB.
Try the first option FIRST.
Good luck
WebDev

Oh dear AZ another piece of your equipment not working?? lol

Seriously AZ, I recently had a similar problem on one of my PCs and it took a while to crack it, does it defrag and scandisc on thorough ok fully?, my guru replaced just about everything to solve the prob,, it was finally the memory card.

the memory:

AZB said:

My pc has gone nuts all of the sudden. When I am using it, it freezes. Then when I reboot it, it stops and windows doesn't start. Then I get a blue screen with a message "hardware failure message... etc"
Then when I re boot, i get a black screen with this message:

TRAP 00000002 ======= EXCEPTION =====
tr=0028 cr0=800000011 cr2=000000000 cr3=00039000
gdt limit=03FF base= 0003F000 idt limit= 07FF base= 0003f400
cs: eip=0008:00411C04 ss: esp=0010:0005F880 errcode = 0000 flags=00000016 NoCy NoZr IntDis Down TrapDis
eax=01F36e77 ebx=00004C00 ecx=00001278 ds=0010 es0010
edi=8066B620 esi=00030220 ebp=0005F8E8 cr0=80000011 fs=0030 gs=0000

I have a home made PC. AMD 1.1 gig athlon, 512 pc133, 20 gig HD, Amptron 810LMR S/S730 mother board, CDRW, DVD, TV card and 350W power supply.
Please tell me whats wrong with my PC. I think it maybe the memory sticks 256meg X 2. Or maybe the damn mother board.
Sometimes the damn thing works all night without problems and sometimes I have to reboot several times to get the windows started.
Thanks in advance.
AZB

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From Google: (looks like a memory problem)

The following is the actual message that is appearing on the Screen which is a back screen
as opposed to the usual dump screen which is blue

TRAP 00000002 ========= exception====

Er= 0028 cr0 = 80000011 cr2 = 00000000 cr3 = 00030000
gdt limit = 03FF base = 00036000 idt limit = 07FF
base= 0036400

After trying out all things i finally went for a
fresh install but after installing a fresh copy the problem still continued. so obviously the problem
was with the hardware . i disabled ecc memory check in the setup and found that theerror stopped so now i have concluded that the problem was with the physical memory and going for a replacement.

Processor

How long has your Processor (Your AMD) has been with you? I've diagnosed cases like this before, it seems to me, your processor is dying, you may need to buy another one. Also on another note AMD Processors are not good for the tropical climate they tend to overheat more than Intel's, so they have a shorter life than what they should have.

Now, i am not saying go buy a new one, just ask a friend for his, so you can test it on your PC. I doubt is a memory problem, but who knows.

-CP

Lobotomized computers

One sunny morning my beloved computer in several years also had the same symptoms, i was lucky to have a friend of mine to repair it before i went total loco and throw the "computer-from-hell" out the window..

He told me it was a cooling problem, and the processor had been fried.

By the way, the aftereffect of this lobotomized operation is my computer also freezes and reboots.

I must sometimes restart ca 3-4 times before i can use my "computer-from-hell". :bored:


(no i dont have more hair to loose in frustration)

Or it could be all the hot air you blow into it AZ

You are getting solid answers. Trap errors such as this could literally be anything, software, hardware, component failure, components threatening to fail etc etc.

The only way to troubleshoot it, is to start a process where you 'rule out' the various things, i,e., reinstall Windows - problem still there, yes/no. If yes, it is possibly not a software problem, so you move on to the next thing... e.g. replace memory modules - problem still there, yes/no. If yes, replace the next thing and so on and so on....

Sorry, sometimes one ends up replacing everything. I saw a trap error similar to this once that was due to a faulty ribbon cable - took me days to find the problem. Having said this, trap 000000002 usually indicates a problem with a physical memory module.

pc problem

Here is a board which might also help. I've used it countless times.

http://www.thecomputermechanics.com

AZB, the most common problems in the DR when you get an error like this are:

1) bad memory (but the chances that both went bad the same way the same time are pretty astronomical)

2) physically damaged sector of hard disk (but this would be detected by thorought scandisk)

3) CPU fan getting old and burned out and/or dust buildup not allowing air to circulated through heat sink

4) bad motherboard.

5) Bad processor?? (but IMHO when a processor goes it just goes and you don't get any error message, you get --- nothing.)

This is the order of probability of the cause of your problem. Stop by my store with your box and let me try some different memory modules to finnish ruling out option 1.

Option 2 will take some time to diagnose, at least several hours depending on your hard disk size.

You should be able to diagnose option 3 yourself by just looking in there, or if you have a monitoring option in you BIOS you can look at the processor temperature. between 40 and 60c is just OK for AMD processors, over 90 is damaging. In my experience when your PC shuts down due to high processor temperature, it does it somewhere around 90c.

For option 4, this is a tough one, and very difficult to diagnose unless youa re a real supergeek with an expensive multimeter and alot of time. But if the tops of the capacitors are swollen and puffy like a carton of milk that's been in the fridge way too long then you need a new mobo plain and simple.

I think I have an old athlon XP 1700+ in stock to check and see if the processor is the problem so like I said before, come by.

AZB, you've just received an offer that you cannot refuse. Take your box to MrMike and let him deal with it. Quickly! Before he changes his mind....

In that case I'll have to dig out an old 800mhz duron. It'll be much slower but it will tell us if your processor is the problem.

AZB said:

My pc has gone nuts all of the sudden. When I am using it, it freezes. Then when I reboot it, it stops and windows doesn't start. Then I get a blue screen with a message "hardware failure message... etc"
Then when I re boot, i get a black screen with this message:

TRAP 00000002 ======= EXCEPTION =====
tr=0028 cr0=800000011 cr2=000000000 cr3=00039000
gdt limit=03FF base= 0003F000 idt limit= 07FF base= 0003f400
cs: eip=0008:00411C04 ss: esp=0010:0005F880 errcode = 0000 flags=00000016 NoCy NoZr IntDis Down TrapDis
eax=01F36e77 ebx=00004C00 ecx=00001278 ds=0010 es0010
edi=8066B620 esi=00030220 ebp=0005F8E8 cr0=80000011 fs=0030 gs=0000

I have a home made PC. AMD 1.1 gig athlon, 512 pc133, 20 gig HD, Amptron 810LMR S/S730 mother board, CDRW, DVD, TV card and 350W power supply.
Please tell me whats wrong with my PC. I think it maybe the memory sticks 256meg X 2. Or maybe the damn mother board.
Sometimes the damn thing works all night without problems and sometimes I have to reboot several times to get the windows started.
Thanks in advance.
AZB

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It'll cost you more to repair/fix than a new one. Better get a well known brand and live with the added expense of purchase.

It's just that sometimes the hardware just wears out and there is nothing you can really do to correct it short of replacement.

Texas Bill

SASSER worm...

Careful my friend if you didn't get bit by this one! Sasser worm will freeze your computer! It?s running all over the DR and it took out 70% of all our office computers! Might want to check info on the web regarding Sasser?check for Windows / VirusScan updates or see?have fun?it took me a whole day to get rid of the bastard! :bunny:
http://news.com.com/2009-7349_3-5204689.html
http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/sasser.asp

Ups

You might want to invest in a "UPS" Un-Interupted Power Suppy. This will keep your computer going in the event of a power failure for enough time to shut it down correctly (preventing corruption of files that are open). Most UPS devices also protect against power surges and line voltage spikes.

We use giant UPS devices in our company to keep the servers going in the event of a power failure.

In the states, the average cost of a UPS for a PC is somewhere in the area of $100.00

Hope this suggestion helps

MotorCity Mike