Thanks Fellas
My father-in-law knows he needs to go and buy the stuff without me; but too much gets lost in the translation and----! Its better to show him or pay a bit more to have it right. So I'll use your suggestions. Wish we knew about the discount card when we got all the camping gear at Americana in march. That's a good heads up!! Do alot of places offer this-- supermarkets etc.? My inlaws are poor and from the country and not quite sure they are aware of our bogus competitive world. HB, I always enjoy your posts. Nothing like the good advices of a seasoned teacher. Wish we were building near Santiago rather than SD. At least the family still has their property and "shacks" outside Cevicos. Thanks again.