First Choice: Differentiating The Package Holiday?

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I was just flicking through a First Choice promotional brochure that came through the letterbox today telling me about a new family resort to open up within Playa Dorada in Nov'06 to be called 'Holiday Village Golden Beach'.

I hadn't heard anything about such a resort and went onto their website to read some more. Apparently there are a number of these so called First Choice 'Holiday Villages' opening this year around the world, exclusive to First Choice customers.

So, what's the difference between a Holiday Village and an AI resort? Well it seems that this new Holiday Village will contain all the usual AI features - 3 pools (one adults only), 5 restaurants, bars, spa treatments, spanish lessons, gym, clubs etc.....together with:

- a cinema showing 2 English films a day (1 for children, 1 for adults)

- the main pool will feature slides and a wave machine (apparently the first hotel in the DR to have one)

- trampolining :paranoid:

- a nightclub and casino open to the public (OK so this isn't anything new....Paradise and Jack Tar offer this)

- family rooms feature a partitioned themed 'Kid's Den' with additional TV and Playstation 2!

- Holiday Soccer School for 5-16 yr olds to improve their football skills

- Swim Kids whereby kids aged 3+ and adults can learn to swim

- Wannaplaytennis for those who want to learn how to play tennis

- Stagecoach for kids aged 6-15 yrs where they can learn dance, drama and singing supervised by qualified teachers (July & Aug only)

- Point Blank DJ workshops (July & Aug)

- a private adult only area of the resort with a private patch on the beach and Royal adult suites have hammocks on the balcony

A couple of thoughts spring to mind:

1. FC have obviously done their homework and must believe that the demand for such a resort on the north coast of the DR exists. I wonder whether in opening this resort, exclusive to FC customers, this means that FC will look to drop many of the other hotels within Playa Dorada that they currently offer in their brochure and supply guests to? I assume that this would be the case, in order to ensure a healthy number of bookings to their new resort by reducing the number of bookings to competitors. If this were to be the case, how much of an impact would this have on the success of those hotels affected?

2. Is this attempt at differentiation good enough to sway people to book at the Golden Beach v's any other AI in Playa Dorada? I mean - look at the differentiators, for example:

A cinema - who wants to sit inside and watch a movie when on holiday in the sunshine? (could be good for those rainy days when there's not much to do though)

Playstation 2 in the room - don't people go on holiday to get outside and enjoy something different to what they can do back home? (again, possibly good for those rainy days)

slides and wave machine - yes, probably onto a winner with the kids

stagecoach/soccer school/trampolining......yeah maybe, what do you guys with kids think?

It looks like they are trying to appeal to all - those with kids and those who want adults only.....but can you successfully combine them both in one resort? :ermm:

3. How can they expect to fill this hotel all year round with just First Choice guests? Well, after a little digging it turns out that First Choice Holidays Ltd (UK based tour operator) are in fact a subsidiary of First Choice Holidays PLC which has a number of subsidiaries across the world incl. Signature Vacations (always thought their logos were similar!). Could this be the sign of things to come....now looking into forward integration, whereby the tour operators not only book your holiday, fly you to your destination in their own planes........ now they own the hotels you will stay in.....transfer you back to the airport and fly you safely home. The complete package?

Apologies for the long post - I got kind of carried away!:cheeky: Wanted to know if anyone has heard about this new resort due to open in Nov'06....and where exactly in Playa Dorada it's going to be located? It says it's going to be right on the beach, 800m from the plaza which means that they must have bought one of the 14 hotels already there?

Any thoughts welcomed
Daydream.
 

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daydream said:
I was just flicking through a First Choice promotional brochure that came through the letterbox today telling me about a new family resort to open up within Playa Dorada in Nov'06 to be called 'Holiday Village Golden Beach'.

I hadn't heard anything about such a resort and went onto their website to read some more. Apparently there are a number of these so called First Choice 'Holiday Villages' opening this year around the world, exclusive to First Choice customers.

So, what's the difference between a Holiday Village and an AI resort? Well it seems that this new Holiday Village will contain all the usual AI features - 3 pools (one adults only), 5 restaurants, bars, spa treatments, spanish lessons, gym, clubs etc.....together with:

- a cinema showing 2 English films a day (1 for children, 1 for adults)

- the main pool will feature slides and a wave machine (apparently the first hotel in the DR to have one)

- trampolining :paranoid:

- a nightclub and casino open to the public (OK so this isn't anything new....Paradise and Jack Tar offer this)

- family rooms feature a partitioned themed 'Kid's Den' with additional TV and Playstation 2!

- Holiday Soccer School for 5-16 yr olds to improve their football skills

- Swim Kids whereby kids aged 3+ and adults can learn to swim

- Wannaplaytennis for those who want to learn how to play tennis

- Stagecoach for kids aged 6-15 yrs where they can learn dance, drama and singing supervised by qualified teachers (July & Aug only)

- Point Blank DJ workshops (July & Aug)

- a private adult only area of the resort with a private patch on the beach and Royal adult suites have hammocks on the balcony

A couple of thoughts spring to mind:

1. FC have obviously done their homework and must believe that the demand for such a resort on the north coast of the DR exists. I wonder whether in opening this resort, exclusive to FC customers, this means that FC will look to drop many of the other hotels within Playa Dorada that they currently offer in their brochure and supply guests to? I assume that this would be the case, in order to ensure a healthy number of bookings to their new resort by reducing the number of bookings to competitors. If this were to be the case, how much of an impact would this have on the success of those hotels affected?

2. Is this attempt at differentiation good enough to sway people to book at the Golden Beach v's any other AI in Playa Dorada? I mean - look at the differentiators, for example:

A cinema - who wants to sit inside and watch a movie when on holiday in the sunshine? (could be good for those rainy days when there's not much to do though)

Playstation 2 in the room - don't people go on holiday to get outside and enjoy something different to what they can do back home? (again, possibly good for those rainy days)

slides and wave machine - yes, probably onto a winner with the kids

stagecoach/soccer school/trampolining......yeah maybe, what do you guys with kids think?

It looks like they are trying to appeal to all - those with kids and those who want adults only.....but can you successfully combine them both in one resort? :ermm:

3. How can they expect to fill this hotel all year round with just First Choice guests? Well, after a little digging it turns out that First Choice Holidays Ltd (UK based tour operator) are in fact a subsidiary of First Choice Holidays PLC which has a number of subsidiaries across the world incl. Signature Vacations (always thought their logos were similar!). Could this be the sign of things to come....now looking into forward integration, whereby the tour operators not only book your holiday, fly you to your destination in their own planes........ now they own the hotels you will stay in.....transfer you back to the airport and fly you safely home. The complete package?

Apologies for the long post - I got kind of carried away!:cheeky: Wanted to know if anyone has heard about this new resort due to open in Nov'06....and where exactly in Playa Dorada it's going to be located? It says it's going to be right on the beach, 800m from the plaza which means that they must have bought one of the 14 hotels already there?

Any thoughts welcomed
Daydream.
I believe you will find that this is to be the new name of the Jack Tar Resort in Playa Dorada when renovations are complete and it will not be exclusive to First Choice (except possibly in the UK).

Gregg
 

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I wonder if "TAMPADR" knows about this? He is a big Jack Tar fan and told me about the renovation up there.
Would Jack Tar give up its corporate identity in POP? They were one of the first up there, and the first AI. Some interesting concepts, however.

HB :D:D

??????????????????????????A wave machine in my back yard????:p:p:p
 

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Thanks guys

Is Jack Tar currently closed for renovations or are just parts of the hotel being renovated at a time?
 

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Holiday Village Golden Beach = Jack Tar Village

Yes Mr Billy.
JackTar is closing May 7 and will open in November as Holiday Village Golden Beach, owned by First Choice and managed by Occidental.
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drtampa said:
Yes Mr Billy.
JackTar is closing May 7 and will open in November as Holiday Village Golden Beach, owned by First Choice and managed by Occidental.
My newly bent 7 iron head arrives today.

Thanks drtampa

Do you know whether Mangu & the casino will remain open during this time?
 

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I used to work for First Choice and they have Holiday villages all over the world. They are really good and tend to be exclusive to First Choice. I have spoken to FC with regards to repping the Village, and was told it is due to open next year, not November or this year.
Hope this helps!
 

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daydream said:
Thanks drtampa

Do you know whether Mangu & the casino will remain open during this time?
Roger Kieth, GM of the Casino said casino will be open most of the time, but will close for a shorter period than the hotel for renovations.
 

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louisekilpatrick said:
I used to work for First Choice and they have Holiday villages all over the world. They are really good and tend to be exclusive to First Choice. I have spoken to FC with regards to repping the Village, and was told it is due to open next year, not November or this year.
Hope this helps!

Thanks Louise

That's interesting because they are taking bookings online from 2nd Dec!

It does sound good on the website though....may well check it out for a weekend when it opens :classic:
 

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HOWMAR said:
Roger Kieth, GM of the Casino said casino will be open most of the time, but will close for a shorter period than the hotel for renovations.

Thanks HOWMAR
 

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Hmm, strange! unless HR are fibbing! I duno, Im guna try and get a place there though. Secure job! Need to learn French tho because as Gregg stated, Signature vacations are part of First Choice so the reps need to speak french too!
 

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Tampadr just told me that his reservations were confirmed for December and he invited us up to playin the waves.....:p:p

My oh my, Jack Tar sold out!! Lots of hotel people here got their start there..

HB :D:D
 

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Yes, the new Holiday Village is the Jack tar. Occidental has owned the Jack Tar chain for a while but it does not fit into their corporate branding, that is why there are no more Jack Tars. Holiday Village is scheduled to open in Nov 2006. There will also be one opening the Mayan Riviera area in Mexico.

It will be exclusive to First Choice companies (including Signature) - the room allotment will be split 60/40: winter = signature 60% FC 40% / summer FC 60% signature 40%. The other Holiday Villages around the world have been quite successful so I expect this will be too.
 

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I smell a multimillion $$$$$$$$$$$$$ Time-Share business budding here!
Anyone want to make a wager?
A Resort full of only Brits?, Thats spells Gold mine Big time.
I'd love to have a piece of that Track.
 

louisekilpatrick

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Your right!

First choice are the biggest Tour operators in the Uk and already make a fortune with the holiday villages they have already. This one is bound to be a huge success. Prices are really good too.
 

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Oh god - a complex full of brits is not a good thing.
As stated in my last trip report the "less classy" brits have discovered the country as deals to the DR from the UK are so good its opened it up to a lot more people.

Whilst I understand that loads of brits coming over spending money is a great thing - i am concerened about the type of people who will be visiting. Dont want us brits getting a bad rep!

dan
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HA!HA! wishingiwasthere...being a Brit myself I know EXACTLY the type you speak of!!!:D

I'm not too sure a cinema and playstation games would get my vote though. In fact: "BOO!" to that! My girls like films and games FAR too much already and I would most certainly not want them playing games/watching films on holiday - EVEN if it rains!! THEY would see them and start their "Pleeeeease Mum!!!" and as I don't want them to do on holiday that they could do at home I would look just the MEANEST when I refused their pleas!!!:rolleyes:

Nope, I wouldn't go there - I'd run a mile in the opposite direction!
I think holidays should be educational as well as relaxing (may be bias as a teacher, but a time for children to learn about the world whilst having fun) - games are neither...you SEEN how wound-up and frustrated children get on those things??? :surprised
 

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Holiday Village Golden Beach

Hi,

We are just looking at spending 2 weeks here in July 2007, not too sure at the moment. Prices are pretty good. Luckily my kids would be more interested in the pool and the dancing lessons than the Playstation and the Movies.

We too feel that holidays should be educational and we are hoping to move to the Dom Rep Sosua/Cabarete when finances allow. We do however appreciate that Children do not want to sit around a pool all day - neither do I for that matter and I will definately be on the Monster Trucks and other Trips. (already got the suitcase ready with school supplies - again).

We have been to the Gran Ventana once and the Casa Marina twice. We have also been looking into other hotels but need something with things for the kids to do, I again though don't want to be mobbed by 'Wayne and Waynetta Slobs' whilst on Holiday.

Any suggestions anyone?

Debs
 

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Has Mangu been affected by the closing of the resort? It's bad enough dealing with the new curfew, closing the discos early.
 
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