DR makes Crime a priority?

JHT

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The top news shown today says:

"Crime is government's priority
An expanded government council meeting that will include the president and criminal judges of the Supreme Court of Justice (SCJ), the presidents of both chambers of Congress, cabinet members and several civil society organizations was called by President Leonel Fernandez for Monday, 24 July to approve actions aimed at confronting the country's growing problem of violence and crime. At the meeting, the authorities are expected to present a new crime-fighting plan and will listen to parties interested in a reform of the Criminal Procedures Code. The criminal court judges are being expressly invited. It was specified that the code would be discussed through the National Commission for the Execution of the Criminal Procedures Reform.
Yesterday, the President met with Interior & Police Minister Franklin Almeyda, Police Chief Bernardo Santana Paez, Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito, Executive Branch legal advisor Cesar Pina Toribio Armed Forces Minister Sigrido Pared Perez, narcotics advisor to the President Marino Vinicio Castillo, among others to discuss actions to be taken to confront crime.
Interior & Police Minister Franklin Almeyda said at the end of the meeting: "The government wants to stress that the plan is one of state, of high priority for the state and the state is not only the government, but also Congress and the Judicial Branch".

If this is true then they should start in their own backyard and get rid of all the crooked Policia Nacional who threaten tourists with prison or arrest if they are not paid bribes. You do not need to be doing anything other than walking in the Conde or the Colonial Zone of Santo Domingo to be stopped and told to give them money. The President of the DR should address this first above all else. If your own judicial system is part of the problem then it will never be able to be corrected.
 
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There are some within those in attendance at that meeting, led by Castillo, who rightly feel that the first step must be the internal cleansing of the PN and the armed forces. However, they seem to be getting some resistance from the chief of police and others, who feel that they are already doing a job of weeding out the bad apples. IMO, they're obviously not doing enough on this front, and must make a lot stronger effort to get this done.

The first step should be drug testing of every member of those forces, which can be done in 3 days. Anyone testing positive, would be subject to a second test to confirm the results. A second positive test would result in termination of employment and being criminally charged with official misconduct.

The second step would be the investigation into criminal activities of every superior officer (major & higher) to be conducted by the attorney general's office. A lot of those officers are involved in drug trafficking. ;) If they need help, you can assign Nuria Piera and her team of rabbid dogs to the task. :p:p:p You would then proceed to conduct similar investigations on the remaining officers. Those can be conducted by the superior officers who have been successfully cleared by the attorney general's investigation.

Step 3 would be to compensate those officers who have been requalified by paying them reasonable salaries, and not the $3k to $4K pesos that they're now being paid.

There are many other things that need to be done, but that would be a good start.
 

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The Presidente (not the beer) is caught between a rock and a hard place, and he seems to be leaning toward the hard place. Like the proverbial two little angels, one white with a halo and the other red with a pitchfork, wispering in his ears, the Presidente is listening to two different agendas, both argued with the need to do something about increasing crime. The hard place is that the Presidente will take advantage of the situation and push the country down the slippery slope of dictatorial rule. Que Viva El Jefe!!!
 

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JHT said:
The top news shown today says:

"Crime is government's priority
An expanded government council meeting that will include the president and criminal judges of the Supreme Court of Justice (SCJ), the presidents of both chambers of Congress, cabinet members and several civil society organizations was called by President Leonel Fernandez for Monday, 24 July to approve actions aimed at confronting the country's growing problem of violence and crime. At the meeting, the authorities are expected to present a new crime-fighting plan and will listen to parties interested in a reform of the Criminal Procedures Code. The criminal court judges are being expressly invited. It was specified that the code would be discussed through the National Commission for the Execution of the Criminal Procedures Reform.
Yesterday, the President met with Interior & Police Minister Franklin Almeyda, Police Chief Bernardo Santana Paez, Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito, Executive Branch legal advisor Cesar Pina Toribio Armed Forces Minister Sigrido Pared Perez, narcotics advisor to the President Marino Vinicio Castillo, among others to discuss actions to be taken to confront crime.
Interior & Police Minister Franklin Almeyda said at the end of the meeting: "The government wants to stress that the plan is one of state, of high priority for the state and the state is not only the government, but also Congress and the Judicial Branch".

If this is true then they should start in their own backyard and get rid of all the crooked Policia Nacional who threaten tourists with prison or arrest if they are not paid bribes. You do not need to be doing anything other than walking in the Conde or the Colonial Zone of Santo Domingo to be stopped and told to give them money. The President of the DR should address this first above all else. If your own judicial system is part of the problem then it will never be able to be corrected.


They have a new task force here on the north coast doing specialized undercover work. These are good clean people and one of the tasks that they have started is to weed out the crooked cops. Every time this happens you should only complain directly with the Colonel. Some of these crooked cops have now started carrying scales to weigh up how much your gold is worth when they take it off you!!
 

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Mirador said:
The Presidente (not the beer) is caught between a rock and a hard place, and he seems to be leaning toward the hard place. Like the proverbial two little angels, one white with a halo and the other red with a pitchfork, wispering in his ears, the Presidente is listening to two different agendas, both argued with the need to do something about increasing crime. The hard place is that the Presidente will take advantage of the situation and push the country down the slippery slope of dictatorial rule. Que Viva El Jefe!!!

Mirador,
I sure hope you are being sarcastic. Even though i know the country needs a strong ruler, a "Dictator" doesnt sound like the answer. Sounds like a big conspericy theory u got there.
Fuel
 

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Mirador said:
The Presidente (not the beer) is caught between a rock and a hard place, and he seems to be leaning toward the hard place. Like the proverbial two little angels, one white with a halo and the other red with a pitchfork, wispering in his ears, the Presidente is listening to two different agendas, both argued with the need to do something about increasing crime. The hard place is that the Presidente will take advantage of the situation and push the country down the slippery slope of dictatorial rule. Que Viva El Jefe!!!
Keep dreaming my friend.
 

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If you click on the name of Mirador you will get this;
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Then click on "Find all posts by Mirador and you can read all the conspiracy theories that he has posted in the past.. That is the reason I have labeled him "the boy who cried wolf".

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I'm sorry HM I forgot about his meds.

Fuel disregard what I posted earlier as reading the prior posts by Mirador would be a waste of your time in that when he goes off on a tangent, which is often, it can always be attributed to his failure to take his meds. Sorry, my bad.

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Rick Snyder said:
I'm sorry HM I forgot about his meds.

Fuel disregard what I posted earlier as reading the prior posts by Mirador would be a waste of your time in that when he goes off on a tangent, which is often, it can always be attributed to his failure to take his meds. Sorry, my bad.

Rick

Thanks for the heads up guys. Does Mirador ever make valid points or is he always in left field? Im sure that somebody with the mind to come up with an idea that wild may have something important to say.
 

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Last night, after midnight, I heard on my scanner a police patrol calling for instructions. They had been called by the KFC outlet manager located in Winston Churchill Ave, because of an alledged kidnapping. It so happened that several men dressed as police officers showed up, one of them identfying himself as a lieutenant and the other as a sargent, and they had forcefully grabbed one of their employees and pushed him into a waiting car. There was a big commotion, and other employees intervened, even some late-night customers. The manager did not believe the officers were real policemen, so he called 911. The police patrol was describing the incident and asking for instructions. Their orders from headquarters was to follow the car. When the patrol got as far as Las Caobas, they stopped the car at gunpoint and demanded identification. It turned out that the police were genuine, and they had arrested the KFC employee because an ex-wife of the lieutenant accused him of breaking some of her household appliances. Further orders from headquarters was to let them alone.
 

samiam

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Crime in the DR is seriously out of control. Burglars have gone into my building, the one next to mine and a parked car was stolen down the street. Despite having guards and police security, criminals are owning the city.
At this stage, the president should have changed the chief of police and implemented a zero tolerance policy against all sorts of criminals.
Buying Harleys and computers for cops that cant even read or write and are probably thieves themselves is the Dominican way! What a joke this guy is turning out to be!!
 

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samiam,

You said it yourself. Style over substance type approaches such as these are "the Dominican way". They are not exclusive to the current administration. What is really a joke is the implication that the current crime situation is somehow the fault of president Fernandez. This is all about drug trade, and his predicesor's complicity which allowed it to flourish for 4 years and grow to a point where it will be a long and difficult struggle to get under control, and sadly things may never be as they were.
 
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Joshua R

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JHT said:
The top news shown today says:

"Crime is government's priority
An expanded government council meeting that will include the president and criminal judges of the Supreme Court of Justice (SCJ), the presidents of both chambers of Congress, cabinet members and several civil society organizations was called by President Leonel Fernandez for Monday, 24 July to approve actions aimed at confronting the country's growing problem of violence and crime. At the meeting, the authorities are expected to present a new crime-fighting plan and will listen to parties interested in a reform of the Criminal Procedures Code. The criminal court judges are being expressly invited. It was specified that the code would be discussed through the National Commission for the Execution of the Criminal Procedures Reform.
Yesterday, the President met with Interior & Police Minister Franklin Almeyda, Police Chief Bernardo Santana Paez, Attorney General Francisco Dominguez Brito, Executive Branch legal advisor Cesar Pina Toribio Armed Forces Minister Sigrido Pared Perez, narcotics advisor to the President Marino Vinicio Castillo, among others to discuss actions to be taken to confront crime.
Interior & Police Minister Franklin Almeyda said at the end of the meeting: "The government wants to stress that the plan is one of state, of high priority for the state and the state is not only the government, but also Congress and the Judicial Branch".

If this is true then they should start in their own backyard and get rid of all the crooked Policia Nacional who threaten tourists with prison or arrest if they are not paid bribes. You do not need to be doing anything other than walking in the Conde or the Colonial Zone of Santo Domingo to be stopped and told to give them money. The President of the DR should address this first above all else. If your own judicial system is part of the problem then it will never be able to be corrected.

Hols on isnt the gov't already weeding out dirty cops in the PN and also having drug tests in the Armed Forces? Its was on the news and there are some officials that are in the high-ups that are taking a zero tolerance policy with crime all we need is just the president to put his other foot on the boat. We also need the people of the Dominican Republic to speak out and just say "NO MORE" i mean it is a democracy right?