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    Default Are we in trouble with the PLD too?

    As time goes by, it becomes obvious that recent governments in the DR (or is this all over?) do OK the first couple of years and then on the second half of their terms things begin to fall apart. It happened with the first PLD government in 1996-2000, it happened to Hippo 2000-2004 and now the current government does not seem to be doing too many things right.

    The recent flip-flopping, changes and revisions in regards to the Fiscal Review for the 2007 budget is a case in point. The president spoke to the country once and then had to rectify and speak again in less than 3 weeks without sending to the congress the corresponding project from the first speech. Now in the second speech he made corrections but left many things in the air and once the project finally got to the congress we see that he was not straight with the people in his speech.

    The feared new taxes on basic foods did not occur in a direct way but by placing additional duties on gasoline and diesel and increasing fees on license plates and higher taxes on new vehicles the effect on basic foods is the same, perhaps worse, than if he had done it directly. As we know, if the price of fuel goes up 10%, the increases in ALL PRODUCTS will not be proportional and can be 40, 60 or 100% since all the middlemen will take advantage of the situation to make a profit.

    I don't know, it just seems that these guys of the PLD who are supposed to be the best, or at least the 'menos malo' (not as bad?), compared with the rest, perhaps are overrated, including the President. He does not seem to have a good hold on the daily trials and tribulations of the people and is somewhat aloof with his academic and professorial attitude as well as his international relations leans and preferences.

    To complicate things further, the PLD now has internal turmoil regarding personal interests regarding the next presidential term and each day that passes they resemble more and more the other major party of chaos and disorder, the PRD. What in the world is in store for us?

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    Wink Let's lower our expectations just a tad



    The things in the Dominican Republic are improving slowly, but it is an improvement from what we had before. The Dominican Republic is a country that has a common problem with most of Latinamerica... it was colonized by Spain. Countries that were colonized by Spain share that MOST of the people running for office really do not want to make any changes that could actually help the country. They just want to get to power, improve their own economic situation and then bail out. We do not like leaders like that, but deep down we respect them because if they don't try to improve their own economic situation we call them (PARIGUAYOS or PENDEJOS).

    I know that the damage that Hipolito did in 4 years, nobody can fix in 4 or 8 years. I am one of the few Dominicans that knows this, for that reason I am not asking too much from Leonel. I just want him not to mess it up more than what it is now. If he can improve it and make it profitable for foreign companies to invest in our economy and bring the much needed capital to improve our economy... he will do above and beyond my expectations.

    I know it sounds good to give money away to poor people, to try to improve on the hospital system, to try to raise the minimum wage. Tha all sounds very beautiful, but that cannot be possible without having more money coming in. People that actually work and do not sit around all month waiting for their relatives in New York to send them money, are more interested in other things that the government can do, like create more jobs, improve transportation conditions, make poor people and rich people pay for utilities, etc.
    Let's help the working class get richer by letting them work! All they ask for is a job that pays enough. They are the ones that pay taxes, pay utilities and actually contribute to the economy. Things will improve eventually.


    Quote Originally Posted by El Vegano View Post
    As time goes by, it becomes obvious that recent governments in the DR (or is this all over?) do OK the first couple of years and then on the second half of their terms things begin to fall apart. It happened with the first PLD government in 1996-2000, it happened to Hippo 2000-2004 and now the current government does not seem to be doing too many things right.

    The recent flip-flopping, changes and revisions in regards to the Fiscal Review for the 2007 budget is a case in point. The president spoke to the country once and then had to rectify and speak again in less than 3 weeks without sending to the congress the corresponding project from the first speech. Now in the second speech he made corrections but left many things in the air and once the project finally got to the congress we see that he was not straight with the people in his speech.

    The feared new taxes on basic foods did not occur in a direct way but by placing additional duties on gasoline and diesel and increasing fees on license plates and higher taxes on new vehicles the effect on basic foods is the same, perhaps worse, than if he had done it directly. As we know, if the price of fuel goes up 10%, the increases in ALL PRODUCTS will not be proportional and can be 40, 60 or 100% since all the middlemen will take advantage of the situation to make a profit.

    I don't know, it just seems that these guys of the PLD who are supposed to be the best, or at least the 'menos malo' (not as bad?), compared with the rest, perhaps are overrated, including the President. He does not seem to have a good hold on the daily trials and tribulations of the people and is somewhat aloof with his academic and professorial attitude as well as his international relations leans and preferences.

    To complicate things further, the PLD now has internal turmoil regarding personal interests regarding the next presidential term and each day that passes they resemble more and more the other major party of chaos and disorder, the PRD. What in the world is in store for us?

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    I would say that PLD is in theory "menos malo" than PRD... But I am les and less convinced of it... It just seems that it is all the same, as long as it is a dominican, it is corrupted...
    Too much drug money in the system, by the way...

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    Bronx2,

    Welcome to DR1. Having said that then I would suggest that you get off your soap-box and open your own thread about the electricity problem. I only say this because as your first two posts to this board have been the exact same post and as both threads have nothing to do with what you are ranting about and as you are saying nothing that the members of this board are not aware of then as I said "start your own thread".

    The best place to do so would be in the 'Debates' or 'General' forums. Go to those forums, either, and click on that forum in the left hand column. Once in the forum you will see a tab in the upper left that says 'Start a new thread', click on that and when you are directed to the new thread just type in the title of the thread where it says title and in the bigger box below that type in what it is you want to say and click submit. Then you sit back and wait for the board members to address that which you've stated and you will be notified by e-mail that there is a reply to your post.

    Good luck.

    Rick

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    This guy needs to be BANNED from this site if he doesn't stop hijacking threads. SERIOUSLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronx2 View Post
    This is a cycle of who can rip off the country the best aided by international forces, why you think that the DR get so much money in loans. Sink the boat and all the goal will come a float. but wait don't sink it all the way because there is more to steel.

    Its time to for Dominican Chaves but with sanity.

    My idea for a better DR. Is all Dominican to disconnect from the electric lines, all foreign investment should have equal amount of Dominican share holders or else you cannot do business in the DR, execute all the politicos and ladrones.

    There need to be sacrifice in order to reap the benefit of a good country.

    HEY,BRONX2--this is a DUPLICATE POSTING verbatim on another thread you posted to.

    If you're going to participate on this board, get with the rules and abide with them, otherwise get the Heck out of our hair and take your sour disposition elswhere! We have enough of your type already and they're not welcome either!

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    Well, to get back on thread's original subject, what's your views on re-election ???

    -Do you guys think Leonel is basically walking in Hippolito's steps, modelling his part of the PLD just like the PPH ?

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    Hippo stepped into Leo's trapdoor and did not know what happend and what to do with the situation
    And made a nice big mess, just as the PLD expected
    Now they had all the bullets ready to have Leo in a second period and blame Hippo for the mess.
    Read the history carefully back to 1996 (and even before) , connect the dots and you will see what i am talking about.

    Example: "new designed highways" , most of them were already started in the 1st Leo period, the elevation in SD was created (now keep it in an acceptable state), "the samana highway" as well, the machinery is still standing and rusty halfway the track, but most ppl forget that, thus we nave a NEW project "the Samana Highway"
    for $$$$$$$

    You can blame Hippo for stupidness, but most of the real SH&T takes a few years to create/start and was already planned/started between 1996 and 2000
    But again, read the old newspapers/reports etc and connect the dots.

    and again Leo is a LAWYER and everybody knows that lawyers are licensed to "change/interpret the truth" in all colors of the rainbow.

    (Q: how many lifejackets will every car in the metro carry during the rain season?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DunHill View Post
    Maybe after Leonel hosts a special party of the entire PLD in a Metro tunnel...

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