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Read This DR1 News Item....
Mr. Martinez, is, of course, correct. He also deserves much praise for speaking out. The downward spiral of Dominican society will not stop until we have a better educated voter, who would, in turn, demand better representation. This would require vastly improved schools. And good luck with that. The very last thing the corrupt want is a smarter voter.
Excellent article !
I would also point out the drug factor : A couple of years ago, those wealthy people in power were paid in US$ to close their eyes on drug-trade. Fine, no problem. Today they are being paid in drugs, so they (police, politicians, military) have to ORGANIZE the drug trade here in DR in order to get there hands on the cash. The result is a massive rise of crack use in the barrios...
I would also point out the drug factor : A couple of years ago, those wealthy people in power were paid in US$ to close their eyes on drug-trade. Fine, no problem. Today they are being paid in drugs, so they (police, politicians, military) have to ORGANIZE the drug trade here in DR in order to get there hands on the cash. The result is a massive rise of crack use in the barrios...
Its proof of the old adage, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer". I agree, an educated voter is the key to fixing a corrupt society, but there is such a circular effect that is going on here that simply educating the voters isn't going to be enough. It seems like each problem will have to be tackled simultaneously for anything to take effect.
Truth Hurts
I agree with the article and would take it one step beyond - as long as Dominican Society finds it OK to use and lie other Dominicans, tourists and expats without regard to the consequences of doing so as long as such actions will not hurt them or will in fact improve their own personal situation all of Dominican society will be damaged. Trust starts with keeping ones spoken word and grows from there. Too many people in the republic both Dominican and Non Dominican find it is OK to lie here and until this is corrected all is suspect here.
I agree with the article and would take it one step beyond - as long as Dominican Society finds it OK to use and lie other Dominicans, tourists and expats without regard to the consequences of doing so as long as such actions will not hurt them or will in fact improve their own personal situation all of Dominican society will be damaged. Trust starts with keeping ones spoken word and grows from there. Too many people in the republic both Dominican and Non Dominican find it is OK to lie here and until this is corrected all is suspect here.
I thought the same thing when I read that article yesterday....but I didnt post about...because I really thought to myself.....who wants to hear a gringo tell them something like that......... ha ha ha ha
I am glad others picked up on it and concure, the guy has come out and told it like it is..
bob
I am glad others picked up on it and concure, the guy has come out and told it like it is..
bob
well you have to start with the legal system, where the judges, police, lawyers, and government 'district attorneys' fix cases, allow cases to proceed despite obvious ommissions and/or falsifications. Financial embargos and provisional mortgages are given despite obvious proof of financial viability, just to allow attorneys put pressure on 'in return for favors or money.Criminals are allowed to get away and anybody with money can buy anyone, especially outside SD and Santiago where the problem is even worse.
It seems every other day we face another frivolous law suit, even lawyers suing us on behalf of clients who don't know anything about it, these 'clients' even give us written, signed and sworn confirmation that they are not suing us, but we have to go to court and defend ourselves, its ridiculous.
Recently we had one of our cars confiscated despite the case pending upper court, because someone paid of the 'sherrif.'
We even pay liquidation now in labor cases almost automatically because its not worth fighting anymore, even when you catch employees stealing, now we still get sued for 'pain and suffering' after paying liquidation.
There is no recourse against these lawyers, the local equivalent of a bar assocation is a joke, its like their little mafia club where they discuss how to fix cases and who gets which cut.
if you dont fix the legal system you will never fix corruption, and this country will never prosper unless you get corruption under control. Unfortunetly, this also means not being able to whip out your general's business card when you get pulled over. Its all part of the deal.
If it gets worse, I see end coming like the article says.
It seems every other day we face another frivolous law suit, even lawyers suing us on behalf of clients who don't know anything about it, these 'clients' even give us written, signed and sworn confirmation that they are not suing us, but we have to go to court and defend ourselves, its ridiculous.
Recently we had one of our cars confiscated despite the case pending upper court, because someone paid of the 'sherrif.'
We even pay liquidation now in labor cases almost automatically because its not worth fighting anymore, even when you catch employees stealing, now we still get sued for 'pain and suffering' after paying liquidation.
There is no recourse against these lawyers, the local equivalent of a bar assocation is a joke, its like their little mafia club where they discuss how to fix cases and who gets which cut.
if you dont fix the legal system you will never fix corruption, and this country will never prosper unless you get corruption under control. Unfortunetly, this also means not being able to whip out your general's business card when you get pulled over. Its all part of the deal.
If it gets worse, I see end coming like the article says.
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Yes, sometimes it's easier to pay than deal with the BS!
You need to document everything and basically become a "bastard".
It takes time and money, but under the current archaic labor laws you have no choice.
The country has so many lawyers, that the only way some can make money is by becoming "scum" like the clients they represent, very sad.
Employing Is Difficult
Very true.
Thus it has become impossible for us to hire farm hands.
After three months you can see them go from normal to XXL slow.
The only solution now seems to go 'ajuste' and sometimes hire some daily paid workers.
m'frog
Very true.
Thus it has become impossible for us to hire farm hands.
After three months you can see them go from normal to XXL slow.
The only solution now seems to go 'ajuste' and sometimes hire some daily paid workers.
m'frog