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    Question Moving to D.R., never even been there, HELP...

    Hello everyone,

    I am an American Citizen, of Puertorican decent. I was born and raised in New York City. I am 30 years old, one son and a spouse. My spouse is Dominican and may be facing deportation in a few months. I have never even visited the Dominican Republic and I must say, the internet search engines do not offer enough information about San Francisco De Macoris, D.R.

    I have an Associate of Science Degree in Business Administration and Computer Operations. I have about 8 years experience in office and corporate enviornment. I am bilingual, fluent in Spanish and English, I have even translated Legal Documents in my place of employment. I also have some Legal background as I have been working for attorneys for about 6 years now.

    We have a couple of properties out here that I have placed up for sale. Can someone give me an idea as to what would be wiser for me to do? Is it worth looking for work? should I invest the proceeds of my property into some sort of business? How about my son, he is 13, can I trust the educational system out there? My son is very advanced in his studies, he is actually in a Mentally Gifted school out here, he is also very involved in the arts and music with a very promising future.

    Thank you in advance.

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    WOW!!
    Well, San Francisco is not the place I would choose, since it is somewhat of a "campo" and while it might offer some opportunities, they will be limited.
    Santiago or Santo Domingo or La Romana (because of your language skills) might be better choices.

    I would NEVER, EVER try to start a business before looking things over every, very carefully.

    As for the education of your child, if he is truly gifted, then you are limited to three choices. Santiago, Santo Domingo or home schooling. The best school in la Romana is not prepared for gifted children, last time I looked...but it might be.

    No place else has even the barest facilities for a gifted child. In fact, I might be stretching things a bit by saying that Santiago has them....I am thinking New Horizons for example, but i cold be way way off....

    "Trust the educational system?" NOT on your life!!

    Sorry you are in this bind...

    HB

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    Thanks so much for your heads up...My son's education and taking him from his enviornment is what REALLY worries me. I am a survivor and can make it anywhere...I don't mind any type of work...But he has such a promising future at the rate that he is going. Thanks again, I really appreciate the info.

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    A question:

    As you are a US citizen, is your son not also a US citizen? That being the case, how can the US deport his mother (or father, if you're a woman)?

    If he is not your biological son, have you legally adopted (and subsequently nationalized) him? If so, the same question as to the deportation of his other parent would apply.

    I'm not an immigration specialist, but it would appear that the only way they could deport the parent of a US citizen is if the child is an adult, which isn't the case, of it the deportee is not legally a parent.

    When you say spouse, do you mean legally wed, or are you using it the way we use "wife" or "husband" down here to mean live-in significant other, but not necessarily married? Or the way they use 'spouse' in San Francisco to mean significant other / life partner?

    I am mainly curious because, again, I don't see how the US deports a parent of a minor US citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SosuaJoe View Post
    A question:

    As you are a US citizen, is your son not also a US citizen? That being the case, how can the US deport his mother (or father, if you're a woman)?

    If he is not your biological son, have you legally adopted (and subsequently nationalized) him? If so, the same question as to the deportation of his other parent would apply.

    I'm not an immigration specialist, but it would appear that the only way they could deport the parent of a US citizen is if the child is an adult, which isn't the case, of it the deportee is not legally a parent.

    When you say spouse, do you mean legally wed, or are you using it the way we use "wife" or "husband" down here to mean live-in significant other, but not necessarily married? Or the way they use 'spouse' in San Francisco to mean significant other / life partner?

    I am mainly curious because, again, I don't see how the US deports a parent of a minor US citizen.
    The US does deports illegal immigrants, even if one or more of their children are US citizens. The exception would be if the following is true and could be proven:

    "Currently, deportation can be suspended for illegal immigrants only if they have lived in the USA longer than 10 years, have no criminal record and can prove their removal would cause "extremely unusual hardship" to a close relative with legal status."

    I would assume that if the OP's wife or husband has been in the US for more than a decade and has no criminal record; they could probably avert deportation by claiming the hardship their child will most likely suffer in the absence of his mother or father, whomever is facing the deportation.

    Also:

    "About 2 million families nationwide face a similarly gut-wrenching risk of deportation because the children are U.S.-born citizens but at least one parent is an illegal immigrant, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. If deported, the parent must decide whether to leave the kids with relatives in the USA or take them along."
    For source of quotes and to read more about this : click here.

    -NALs

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    Default sorry about the case

    Be ready for a lot of things, culture shock and many other issues.
    hopefully wont end leaving your family behind. To move back to the Dominican
    to live and work is a challenge. If getting a job do not expect to much about wage. If you can appeal the case do it before heading back.

    DR is not what used to be, people who live there dont feel safe.
    you get a job for who you know skills most of the times.

    good luck

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    It is best to keep your US connections and let your husband go to the DR and establish things for you and your son first.

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    The cold hard answer would be:

    Keep the job, keep the kid, keep the school, keep the property, keep living in New York.

    Visit the Dominican Republic AFTER the spouse is deported, THEN decide.

    You will NOT like the conditions here for you or your son.

    If the deportation is for criminal reasons(not just being illegal allien), STAY IN THE STATES......

    Don - SantiagoDR

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    i think that coming from NYC you would feel quite comfortable in SDQ,
    anywhere else you'd go crazy. SDQ and NYC are similar, you will have a bigger apt., you will need a small car. for half of what you pay in NYC rent you can live good in SDQ. it's city life., here you will definetly have a bigger apt. most aare three bedroom, with balconies. you go to san pedro on the weekends to visit the relatives. that's how it's done. i would leave all my money in the states, in my name only, in either real estate, bank, or diversified stock, bond, portfolio. take only the money for rent, 6 months or less, car can be financed if you have money in the bank, here. when you finance a car and leave the country ( in case you hate it here) just give the car back, call the finance co. and tell them where it's parked. use your round-trip tkt. back to ny. if you need a little money go back to NY and get a little, ya got a round trip tkt. 3.5 hours on a plane, simple. i feel sorry for people that buy a vacation house in Fiji, 24 hours in a plane and expensive.
    i think with your background you can easily find work, it will not pay anything. their are beautiful, elegant, sophisticated, educated people all over SDQ and they don't make any money. but you get a job that let's you meet these people and it gets you out of the house and you feel you have a purpose in life. and it keeps you away from the in-laws. you might have to lean on that bank account a little that first year. but after that you will probably get settled in to what fits.
    i am not familiar with any special schools other than Carroll Morgan, expensive, but i do know that there are some good private schools. as a male i can say that it would have been a blast to have spent my teen years in SDQ, not for hormonal reasons only. i have a 16 year old nephew here, his family does ok, mom and dad both work, and he is having a blast. very active in sports, video games, cars, girls, etc. teenagers in SDQ are having a great time. my nephew has been with me to NYC, catkills mountains, north carolina, key west. he always wants to get back to SDQ. he travels all over SDQ at night without problems, teenagers get away with that.........i have played violin with some very talented dominican teen violinists.......they got to go to school someplace, they didn't go to Carroll Morgan. for what i pay in property tax in NY i could easily send my son to private school in SDQ.
    come on down for a week and look around. i do not want to bad mouth San Pedro but i guarantee you won't like it........EOM

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    I'd agree about your husband coming down first, if deportation is an unappealable decision. Then you & son coming down & making a decision subsequently. I'm sure you want to live as a family but if you felt that either the education here would not encourage your son to develop his potential to the best or you felt you could not cope with a Dominican salary, then maybe return to US where you are earning enough to make frequent visits to DR? At least until your son is College age. If it was an action of your husbannd's which caused this sudden glitch in your lives then the least he can do is get all the groundwork done here before you arrive.

    I can imagine your son might feel quite resentful about all this. He speaks Spanish too I assume? It isn't a wonderful time for a potentially resentful teenager to arrive here for the first time - quite a lot of drugs & disaffected kids around. OK maybe not too different from where you currently live, but some of the 'law enforcement' or lack thereof here are probably very different. You'd have to watch with whom he made friends. The teen tigueres here would be quick to spot a very bright but maybe not so streetsmart child. It's all going to depend on the circles in which you move.

    Not easy. You have my empathy.

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