Construction of DR's second largest marina to begin, larger than Casa de Campo

aegap said:

The were able to get some World Bank money and Royal Caribbean to home port at least one of their ship there , so they must be serious.

Its all part of Santo Domingo's largest development, and will also include what would be, at 900 rooms each, Santo Domingo's two largest hotels. An additional one, at around 600 rooms, would be the third largest..

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If Santo Domingo becomes a regular stop with that cruise company this could become pretty big. There is already one other place on the island that gets half a million visitors a year just because of Royal Caribbean.

That location happens to be the UGLIEST Water in the Caribbean, particulary after a hard rain. I ask why anyone would want to keep a boat in such a place? If you have the money for such a boat, why not keep it in Cap Cana, Casa de Campo, Ocean World, Samana, or even St Thomas, St Maarten, St. Barts, need I go on? To boot, the just isn't any cruising grounds on the South Coast. To me this is just another venture, "Pie in the Sky" dream someone has, much like the Artificial Island. What a JOKE! Be real!

The word is finally out : Marina Puerto Bonito is finally starting. That's the marina project in Playa Bonita, Las Terrenas...

I don't want Samana's coast to get destroyed as they have done to the Punta Cana-Bavaro Area, and Juan Dolio, Guayacanes, Bayahibe and Puerto Plata.

There will come a time when we dominicans won't be able to go to a beach.

Funnyyale26 said:

There will come a time when we dominicans won't be able to go to a beach.

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For info, most deep-sea fishing boats in those marinas are owned by (rich) Dominicans...

Squat ... surely you have not spent much time in Ocean World Marina. I've been on a luxury express cruiser here for almost a year and have come into contact with only ONE fisher owned by a Dominican. ONE ... in a YEAR ... and I speak with everybody on the dock. Now, I'm not picking your post apart, I find it interesting. We're heading to the South Coast this comming weekend and I will report back on how many sport fishers I come into contact with that are Dominican owned. Nobody else may care but this'll be interesting for me at least

Stay well,
Amy

Funnyyale26 said:

I don't want Samana's coast to get destroyed as they have done to the Punta Cana-Bavaro Area, and Juan Dolio, Guayacanes, Bayahibe and Puerto Plata.

There will come a time when we dominicans won't be able to go to a beach.

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Yea, god-forbid some modernization happen in the country. We'd hate for jobs to be created, industries to develop and all that. *hint, nudge* Take off those rose-tinted glasses - beachfront/oceanfront means money and what this country needs is money, otherwise all you're going to end up with is a bunch of campesinos eating bananas on a deserted beach. Now, I don't dispute that it would be a great quality of life but really, don't you think they deserve the right to be able to improve on that a little?

Stay well,
Amy

amy2761 said:

Yea, god-forbid some modernization happen in the country. We'd hate for jobs to be created, industries to develop and all that. *hint, nudge* Take off those rose-tinted glasses - beachfront/oceanfront means money and what this country needs is money, otherwise all you're going to end up with is a bunch of campesinos eating bananas on a deserted beach. Now, I don't dispute that it would be a great quality of life but really, don't you think they deserve the right to be able to improve on that a little?

Stay well,
Amy

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WTF? THIS IS MY COUNTRY AND IT'S OUR ECOSYSTEM: OUR SURVIVAL THAT IS AT STAKE HERE.


I AM WELL AWARE that we depend on tourism to survive. Because of people that think like you is the reason my country is the way it is. Many environmental advocates and organizations have already warned that the coastal areas of the Caribbean have been vastly devastated w/ the construction of these enormous hotels. I am not opposed to tourism, but if we let all of the coasts be taken like that there will come a time when the damage to our ecosystem will be so vast that tourism will experience a decline, and with that millions of jobs will go to places that are yet pristine. Punta Cana is not the same as it was 30 years ago, and now there is not a single beach in sight that a common Dominican can visit because all of those hotels prohibit us from using what belongs to them. Why don’t they instead of building big complexes, make smaller ones in the nearby villages and that way, they help keep the coasts pristine and at the same time they help the local economy develop?

...edit "belongs to us."

Funnyyale26 said:

...IT'S OUR ECOSYSTEM: OUR SURVIVAL THAT IS AT STAKE HERE.

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I tend to agree with you, but most damages are done by Dominicans themselves... Although in Saman?, Spaniards (Pi?ero) are the one building & renovating the AI...

Funnyyale26 said:

Why don?t they instead of building big complexes, make smaller ones in the nearby villages and that way, they help keep the coasts pristine and at the same time they help the local economy develop?

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So far, this is mostly what is happening in the Las Terrenas area, with the exception of a couple of big resorts, most other tourism infrastructures are on a more human & smaller scale...

In 1986 I came to this island during a stay of 3 months in the caribbean visiting Cuba, Jamaika and Haiti.
I enjoyed the lonely beaches like Las Galeras ( 2 small hotels), Playa Rincon, Playa Bonita, Playa Grande, in the area from Macao to Bavaro/Punta Cana there were only Punta Cana Resort, Club Med and Barcelo Bavaro and in Bayahibe only Dominicus.
The rest was beach.
Now, if you are in Casa de Campo the beach sucks, Bayahibe has 200m beach left and the same if you go to Bavaro area.
I do understand the critics of a lot of locals.
The DR should be careful with the remaining beaches.

Ok folks, lets be a little more realistic.

People are talking about Dominican resorts and beaches as if there is a scarcity of "natural" beaches. In case anyone has not noticed:

1. Most of the Dominican coastline is NOT developed or under development at the moment.

2. Resorts are not present in MOST beaches or along MOST of the coast. Not only would a quick research reveal this, but simply viewing the entire length of the Dominican coastline on Google Earth will reveal this as clearly as is humanly possible. Most resorts cluster in relatively short stretches of the coastline in the eastern and northern coast of the country.

And for anyone "concerned" about environmental impact, keep in mind that Dominican cities located along the coast have a much worst environmental impact and damage than do any of these resorts. Sometimes this is very visible as is the case at the mouth of the Ozama in Santo Domingo. It doesn't look quite as clean and inviting as the mouth of the Rio Chav?n in Casa de Campo, now does it?

3. This project is a good investment because it shows several things, among which includes:

A) A good investment climate in the country.
B) Creation of much needed jobs in various sectors of the economy.
C) Further growth and diversification of the tourist trade from budget to a more upscale type of tourism which leaves more $$$$$ behind.

4. Last but not least, if people want the DR to remain frozen in time, by all mean purchase as much of the country as you possibly can, build a perimeter fence, hire armed guards to keep impoverished Dominicans and Haitians from invading the land, and do absolutely nothing to those properties. That's the only way you can be sure that the country will remain as YOU want it.

Other than that, move on to something else because change is in the wind and when it comes it comes, period.

-NALs :surprised

Funnyyale26 said:

WTF? THIS IS MY COUNTRY AND IT'S OUR ECOSYSTEM: OUR SURVIVAL THAT IS AT STAKE HERE.


I AM WELL AWARE that we depend on tourism to survive. Because of people that think like you is the reason my country is the way it is. Many environmental advocates and organizations have already warned that the coastal areas of the Caribbean have been vastly devastated w/ the construction of these enormous hotels. I am not opposed to tourism, but if we let all of the coasts be taken like that there will come a time when the damage to our ecosystem will be so vast that tourism will experience a decline, and with that millions of jobs will go to places that are yet pristine. Punta Cana is not the same as it was 30 years ago, and now there is not a single beach in sight that a common Dominican can visit because all of those hotels prohibit us from using what belongs to them. Why don’t they instead of building big complexes, make smaller ones in the nearby villages and that way, they help keep the coasts pristine and at the same time they help the local economy develop?

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Funny - let's keep personal attacks out of this. You have no idea of what I personaly have done or not done for YOUR country's fragile coastal areas ... if you want to get into that, we can do so via PMs.

My point, which it seems you missed, (maybe read my post again) is that this could be an opportunity for people to improve their quality of life - I made no implication that we have to rape the environment to do so.

Stay well,
Amy

can someone tell me if the marina in Samana is on the north side of the peninsula or inside Samana Bay on the south side of the peninsula?

Conchman said:

can someone tell me if the marina in Samana is on the north side of the peninsula or inside Samana Bay on the south side of the peninsula?

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Second guess is right!
Stay well,
Amy