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    Default why do people want to believe crime is on the increase

    discuss...lol

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    Do they WANT to? Is it just more publicised as media coverage is getting better and better? Is it any worse here than anywhere else? Why discuss a hypothetical subject?

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    Near Cabarete in the last week - 4 home robberies in Costa Azul, 14 apartments/homes broken into in one night near Encuentro... and Christmas season approaching soon which more often than not leads to an increase in petty thefts.

    I agree with Whirleybird that no one 'wants' to believe it, but it's real.
    I disagree with Whirleybird to some degree as many of these type of crimes receive little or no coverage in the media and often don't make it to DR1.

    As a qualifier, the 'serious' crimes that have been occurring in this area for the last year or so have mostly been home robberies.

    Important reminder for anyone not familiar with DR and reading this or other crime threads: I hear of very little affecting visitors/tourists directly. Certainly a very low percentage based on the total # of visitors. By my reckoning, for tourists the DR is about as safe as you can find anywhere in the world - unless you act the fool. You'd almost have to make an effort to run into serious trouble.

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    Well...at the risk of generalizing...not my favourite...I think its pretty much a world wide phenomenon...to some degree.

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    Default ..I'm beating a dead horse here..

    I don't think crime is higher than it was two weeks ago but in certain parts of the country crime is significantly higher than it was ten years ago. I don’t just “believe” it, I know because I see it. Over and out.<o></o>

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    There seems to be two schools of thought here on this subject-

    1) Crime is not increasing, its the level of exposure by the media thats' making it seem so.

    2) If you're a tourist and you get caught in a situation, more than likely it was your fault because you have to have done something stupid to put yourself in that situation.

    But let me address some details-it is true as has been reported that in the cocaine trade, dealers are now being paid in product instead of cash. So they are left to unload their drugs on dominicans.

    I am assuming a domino effect whereas the more drugs and addicts around, the greater the increase in crime is going to be.

    Or is it safe to assume that this method of paying for drug transactions have little or no effect on the overall levels of crime?

    Or does it even matter if it the majority of these crimes are happening in the barrios and should only be of concern when the more affluent sections of the DR are affected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tht View Post
    I don't think crime is higher than it was two weeks ago but in certain parts of the country crime is significantly higher than it was ten years ago. I don’t just “believe” it, I know because I see it. Over and out.<o></o>
    Or 20 years ago. It used to be most crime was robbery with nobody getting hurt. Now victims are more likely to be beaten, even killed.

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    i was meaning that as soon as something happens here everyone says the places is getting bad with crime....people that havent lived in their own country for years presume its the same there(in their original country) as it was when they left

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    Default Crack

    For instance, up in Las Terrenas there were between 5 and 15 crack distribution points, and any attempts to close them down were thwarted by leaks from inside the police. You cannot have security inside a community if you have crack cocaine. Simple. But also, the only paper in LT would not report the incidences of crime since so many people were dependent on tourism and selling real estate.

    It is true that the DR and Haiti are major transit points for cocaine - but perhaps the spread of crack, the addicting of the local population, are new phenomenon. Unfortunately, many Dominicans are very naive about drugs, thinking, for instance that crack and marijuana are on the same level of "drugas" . I have not heard of any serious police actions against crack and the crack houses - sort of like in the States - let the poor people kill each other- but really it seems that this - rather than even the transporting of cocaine in and out of the country - is the main issue facing the country.

    Of course, if the only sort of development is going to be Cap Cana like enclaves for the super rich which can all be guarded, then there is no problem. But if the DR seriously wants to promote itself as a destination for retirees or second homes, it must start talking publically about Crack, and start eradicating its sale and use.

    Otherwise, there is very little hope for the place.

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    Right on Mountainannie. I've been saying it for some time now that these measures of closing down bars at midnight, police checkpoints, etc are pointless and that the main reason that's driving the increase in crime (and yes there's definitely an increase) is drugs (specifically Crack). I don't have to go anywhere or have anyone tell me to see the increase. In my hometown (not even close to a tourist area) there are now many well known crack selling points. They re so brazen that they cook it right on the street in front of everyone. The police you ask? Of course they protect these individuals. It is well known that you can even get it delivered (just like a Pizza) if you wish.

    Regular people don't seem to understand the effect these types of drugs have on society and crime.

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