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    Default New Laptop without the Demon VISTA

    Thanks DR1 for the thread, started by Sosua-Marc, that opened up for me the down-sides of Vista.

    http://http://www.dr1.com/forums/liv...ops-vista.html

    Finding this thread was especially important as I was just about ready to buy. After checking out Staples, Best Buy and The Source and . . . you get it . . . I finally bought off of a small local company that hadn't had to sell its soul to Billy G. So the laptop came with whatever OS you wanted or with none. Fine. I got it with XP and it works just fine on 1 GB, RAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Me_again View Post
    Thanks DR1 for the thread, started by Sosua-Marc, that opened up for me the down-sides of Vista.

    http://http://www.dr1.com/forums/liv...ops-vista.html

    Finding this thread was especially important as I was just about ready to buy. After checking out Staples, Best Buy and The Source and . . . you get it . . . I finally bought off of a small local company that hadn't had to sell its soul to Billy G. So the laptop came with whatever OS you wanted or with none. Fine. I got it with XP and it works just fine on 1 GB, RAM.

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    That's great.
    Glad it worked out for you.
    I'm guessing that it's going to be near impossible to get laptops without Vista in the near future, so you just got in under the wire.
    May it bring you many happy years of good service.
    PS: Don't forget to remove all that crap like Norton, etc.

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    Default Fyi

    As my desktop machine in the D.R is running XP, I wanted my new Laptop to also run XP.

    The solution is currently provided by Dell (and perhaps some other P.C. makers of which I am not aware). The Vostro line of desktops and Laptops from Dell come with the choice of Vista or XP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by playacaribe2 View Post
    As my desktop machine in the D.R is running XP, I wanted my new Laptop to also run XP.

    The solution is currently provided by Dell (and perhaps some other P.C. makers of which I am not aware). The Vostro line of desktops and Laptops from Dell come with the choice of Vista or XP.


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    That's wonderful news.
    Hope it lasts for awhile.

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    I agree all the problems associated with the new OS Vista is tempting to try to boycott it. However, the experience is, that time just keeps moving on.
    I bought a "basic" Gateway consumer laptop in the States, last October. I say basic, because it is off the shelf and was just under $600.oo. I comes with a 140Gid HD, Intel processor, and 2 Gigs of ram. The HD and the 2 Gigs was what sold me on that model, when comparing it to other offers at the time in that price range.
    It has Vista Home Premium on it.
    What did worry me was that it has a very basic little graphic card which is an integral part of the mother board and has NO dedicated memory (turbo cache). Well, while I do a lot of 3D design, both technical as architectural on my home based desktop machine running on XP SP2 and which is equipped with a special needs graphics card with a dedicated 1Gig of RAM, I decided I'd just use this little laptop as my travel computer, mainly to stay on-line and plug into my skype, where ever I go. Watch movies, write, read... the usual little bitty nonsense consumer stuff.

    Well, my first impression was, that it was the first computer I ever bought (new), where EVERYTHING seemed to work without having to update drivers, call customer service and so forth. Vista is very easy on the eyes as all transitions are smooth (which uses a lot of power) and generally looking "purdy".
    I have had NO problems so far, except that I miss some simple things like the "Folder UP" option next to the "Back" and "Forward" in explorer based windows (I can't understand that). Some of the every recurring security questions ("... do you really want to?" and THEN "... are your really sure you really want to...?" ) quickly become annoying.
    I could also see where older people or folks with lesser eyesight my have a harder time to find files and folders and/or just find themselves distracted by all the suggestions and array of split windows etc.

    Well, I was initially so happy with it, I ordered an OEM disc for my desktop, thinking it was not worth to stay behind and also that I'd rather not run TWO separate systems.

    Today, a couple of months later, I still enjoy my little lap top, but I have decided against installing Vista on my desktop (workhorse). Not just for the obvious issue that Vista senselessly gobbles up all sorts of resources, but because it has actually has been stripped off some of the nice handling features of XP (which I really can't understand).
    I have however, re-skinned my XP to look like Vista (that's real purdy now!) using a free downloadable program called Vista Inspirat (here's the site) which even gives the windows some "faux" transparancy looks and actually uses up very, very little more resources as the basic XP skins. I like it, I love it and it make my transition between the two different machines less awkward.

    All in all, I can understand all the opposition against Vista, I don't understand the rationale behind clogging up computers with an OS either, but I remember those who weathered against every each one new version of windows... I guess where they are today? As always, using the second last version and swearing they will not (again) move up. MSFT has never shown any sensibility for the concerns of it's millions of customers, I suspect they won't change that policy now. So, the only alternative left is looking at alternative OS's I guess.

    ... J-D.

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    I can't recall another situation where "old" technology was a cost-more option.

    I'm not sure the boys in Redmond expected that.

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    Thanks JD for that assessment and the link as well.
    Am downloading it now and will give it a try on one of the more powerful puters.
    If it flies nicely, I'll try it on the weaker puters too and get back with a report on how well they handled it.

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    If you want Vista to run really fast on a laptop, then your going to need to install it on a Mac according to PC World, how sad is that

    "The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year (through 10/25/07) is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year--or for that matter, ever--is a Mac. Not a Dell, not a Toshiba, not even an Alienware".

    PC World - In Pictures: The Most Notable Notebooks of 2007

    When your compare Macs to other branded laptops (Dell, Toshiba, Gateway etc) they have better specs, cheaper and the build quality is years ahead!

    Right now, personal laptop sales are being driven by Apple. Go Stevie!!!

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    Some of you may be aware that puters are super expensive in Europe, perhaps double our American prices.
    So this fellow buys one of my friends a laptop.
    Naturally, she comes to me for the clean up.
    When first booted up, it would take 20 seconds to do anything, and I mean anything.
    Of course it was the standard mess that Vista always is, but even after cleaning it up, it wasn't all that great.
    That's when I went checking the guts.
    I'm almost positive that they wouldn't sell a model like this in the US.
    It was a brand new HP, with a 1.8 Celeron.
    Anyone who's ever owned a Celeron will tell you how useless they are.
    A Pentium 3, 900 mhz would be as good or better, and as if that wasn't bad enough, it only had half a gig of ram.
    That set up is just barely adequate for XP, but with Vista, it'll always be a pig, no matter how much modifying and cleaning one can do.
    The Vista version on it didn't even have the fancy graphics.
    I guess they knew that the machine couldn't support it.

    We can consider ourselves lucky, those of us who buy our puters in America.

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    I banned all Windows versions 2 months ago. I am so happy i did. I got the free Ubuntu Linux for free with open Office (free aswell) free updates, everthing free and most inportant it allways works, no viruses, and ten times faster

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