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    Default spelling bee

    After seeing the final round of the recent US spelling bee, I wondered how popular they are in a spanish speaking world considering that spanish is such a phonetic language. Aside from confusing an s for a z or ll for y, Its pretty much spelled as it sounds. Don't get me started on the insanity of english spelling. I am curious if any of you educated in spanish speaking primary schools ever entered a spelling bee.

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    You forget b for v, s for c...but that is all...no way you can have a real spelling bee in Spanish!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolfdog View Post
    I am curious if any of you educated in spanish speaking primary schools ever entered a spelling bee. Steve
    Never heard of it whie in the DR.

    Other problems:
    1. Letter h (Since it is silent, there is a tendency to leave it out, or place it where it does not belong.)
    2. The accent mark
    3. m before p & b
    4. The diéresis

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    There was some sort of international spelling contest held in the DR recently, in the last few months IIRC. Guess who won!?

    Estudiante RD gana VIII Concurso Hispanoamericano de Ortografía 

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    Thank you chirimoya the article is really good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chirimoya View Post
    There was some sort of international spelling contest held in the DR recently, in the last few months IIRC. Guess who won!?

    Estudiante RD gana VIII Concurso Hispanoamericano de OrtografÃ*a*
    ¡Fantástico! It seems, however, that this contest aims for something beyond spelling.

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    After reading the article posted by Chirimoya, I searched for more information and found the following:

    El Concurso Nacional Primer/ Primera Estudiante de Ortografía ( La Vida - El Concurso Nacional Primer/ Primera Estudiante de Ortografía)

    This contest has been going on for 8 years.
    Interesting:
    Informó que uno de los propósitos de este concurso es fortalecer las capacidades para la comunicación escrita, mediante el uso creativo del vocabulario y la ortografía, además de fomentar el hábito por la lectura, la habilidad en la escritura y contribuir significativamente a la defensa y cultivo del idioma para cuidar y preservar la pureza del mismo.
    Although the Spanish language does not present the challenge English does, today, more than ever before, there is room for such a contest due to the pressure exerted upon the language by outside forces (i.e.:Spanglish).

    From this post, I would like to say to President Leonel Fernández (and I like the guy) to contribute to the objective set by the Department of Education; his "E' pa 'lante que vamo" message will only moves us backwards.

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    Concurso de ortografia. I was wondering how to say spelling bee. Thanks for the insights. The article was interesting and that the winner attended private catholic school.

    The finals of this "english" spelling bee were nearly 100 percent borrowed foreign words from french, german, russian, arabic and many advanced scienific and biological terms derived from greek and latin. There was one spanish word (some form of ceviche). The contestant seemed to be stymied until she
    learned it was of spanish origin. The expert commentator even said that was her big clue. "Just spell it like it sounds" and she correctly spelled the word.

    Steve

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    Default Spelling in Spanish does present some challenges-

    Although spelling in Spanish is simpler and easy when compared to many other languages and sister romance languages specifically, it still creates its fair share of problems for many who do not spell well in Spanish. IMO, the reason for difficulty in spelling in Spanish is due to the lack of proper fundamental teaching in the primary grades that's never addressed and rectified as the student progresses in the primary grades at school. As well, lack of regular reading is often overlooked but it is one of the most crucial reasons why spelling is a challenge for many students.

    Spelling in Spanish is phonetically based therefore it eliminates more than fifty percent of potential difficulties IMO. The other problematic areas of confusion is between letters that carry the same or similar phonetic sounds, knowing which consonants can be doubled in Spanish and accentuation. Once these basic concepts are understood it's very hard to spell incorrectly in Spanish. Typographical errors are not included. A factor that should not be overlooked that greatly interferes with spelling is colloquial or popular speech. A speaker can choose to speak according to his/her level or preference but when colloquial speech impacts one's spelling that's when there's a problem. A good example is the dropping of the /s/. Many speakers write without /s/ when there's a plural form and that's just plain incorrect. There are no exceptions to the rules with plurality where /s/ is required. If the rules are followed spelling in Spanish presents minimal difficulty. The letter /h/ is silent but written when a word has /h/ which is a remnant of Latin and is also a concept in another romance language as well just to compare.

    My observations of many common spelling errors in Spanish are:

    1. /c/ vs. /s/- amorcito and not amorsito- this diminutive ending is often mispelt.

    b./z/ and /s/ - these letters are often confused

    2. /j/ vs. /g/- tarjeta is correct and not targeta, viaje and not viage

    3. /b/ vs. /v/- vamos and not bamos

    4/ doubling of consonants that should not be doubled- mostly by second language or bilingual speakers- gg, ss, tt etc. do not exist in Spanish.

    5/ ay vs. hay- many people don’t know the difference between the two words


    Accents

    Accentuation poses a problem probably because the rules of accentuation are not taught in detail. Memorizing accents can work to a certain extent but what about command forms of verbs with a pronoun? The person who chooses to memorize accented words will be stuck on a test or when writing a formal document that requires marking the accents on the words accordingly. For example, damelo would be dámelo but why? Mandamelo would be mándamelo buy why? Once again proper fundamentals is the key. If one knows the rules, one does not have to guess. As well, I am not sure if students are being taught that the vowels in Spanish are divided into weak and strong categories. This also helps with understanding how to properly add an accent mark to a letter in Spanish.

    /A/, /e/ and /o/ are strong vowels/and /i/ and /u/ are weak vowels. A diphthong is combination of two vowels with a unified sound. For example, ciudad (iu is a diphthong. one weak and one strong vowel) but when the diphthong is broken (one weak and one strong vowel or two weak vowels) the accent is placed accordingly to show the required phonetic stress eg. Todavía, la vía.

    Although spelling is easy in Spanish it presents some difficulties and there are many exceptions. Good reference material is available on spelling in Spanish. It's impossible to discuss all aspects in a thread. Dictionaries also give good explanations about the rules of accentuation in Spanish.



    -LDG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norma Rosa View Post

    Other problems:
    1. Letter h (Since it is silent, there is a tendency to leave it out, or place it where it does not belong.)
    My dear I know quiet well about this.......

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