Opening myself up for Robbery?

SKing

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OK....couple of questions here. Please do not jump on me if I am doing this all wrong, remember I have been "Santiaguera" for all of 5 months!!!
I have 2 regular Taxistas, 1 that takes my kids to and from school and sala de tarea (at a whopping 8,400RD per mo) and the other whom I call whenever I need to go somewhere and am not in the mood to catch the carro publico. Also, my trash is regularly picked up each week by 3 gentlemen who are always very cordial with me.
Anyway, I bought 5 Christmas gift bags and put tissue paper in them and in each one put one of those small bottles of Brugal and a 20oz bottle of Coca-Cola. I thought it was very cute...
My "friend" from Sajoma says that I am setting myself up to be robbed, that I am letting people know that I have money. I think otherwise because I don't think a bottle of Brugal and some soda is going to make someone automatically rob me. What do you guys think? Are Christmas bags for the trash pick-up guys flashy?:ermm:
He thinks I am crazy so I have not told him about the 3 blankets I bought from Target for the Haitians who guard the abadoned house next door!!;) I always feel bad on some of these chilly nights...
Also, what amount of bonus should I give to the housekeeper. I already overpay her, I know that...but I found out the going rate after I offered her what I did and I couldn't take it back after that.
So do I give her a weeks pay when she is off the week of Christmas or what??
Have pity on me...Just tell me what to do and not to do.
Thanks
SHALENA
 

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OK....couple of questions here. Please do not jump on me if I am doing this all wrong, remember I have been "Santiaguera" for all of 5 months!!!
I have 2 regular Taxistas, 1 that takes my kids to and from school and sala de tarea (at a whopping 8,400RD per mo) and the other whom I call whenever I need to go somewhere and am not in the mood to catch the carro publico. Also, my trash is regularly picked up each week by 3 gentlemen who are always very cordial with me.
Anyway, I bought 5 Christmas gift bags and put tissue paper in them and in each one put one of those small bottles of Brugal and a 20oz bottle of Coca-Cola. I thought it was very cute...
My "friend" from Sajoma says that I am setting myself up to be robbed, that I am letting people know that I have money. I think otherwise because I don't think a bottle of Brugal and some soda is going to make someone automatically rob me. What do you guys think? Are Christmas bags for the trash pick-up guys flashy?:ermm:
He thinks I am crazy so I have not told him about the 3 blankets I bought from Target for the Haitians who guard the abadoned house next door!!;) I always feel bad on some of these chilly nights...
Also, what amount of bonus should I give to the housekeeper. I already overpay her, I know that...but I found out the going rate after I offered her what I did and I couldn't take it back after that.
So do I give her a weeks pay when she is off the week of Christmas or what??
Have pity on me...Just tell me what to do and not to do.
Thanks
SHALENA

Shalena;

My personal opinionis that theperson you talked to who saidyou're setting yourself up for a robbery is just being jealous and stingy toward those whom you are free with.
As to your housekeeper, well, thelaw says you owe her a months extra pay as a Christmas Bonus. One week paid vacation won't cut the ice. You pay her that PLUS the extra one month wages and don't complain. Otherwise if you try to rationalize outof the extra month you might find yourself on the wrong side of a Labor Board hearing since she is bound to sqwauck about that.
Just a word to the wise.
Pay up and don't argue about it.

Texas Bill
 

mike l

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Nothing wrong with tipping or showing Christmas cheer but you do have to pay the maid the one month bonus.

If you are over paying her too much let her go after you pay the bonus and find a new one.
 

AZB

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if dominicans say you are setting yourself up for a robbery, you better listen to them. Its true, people will think you are super rich, a single woman living here all by herself, who is american etc, seems like an easy target to someone who is looking to rob some house. There are good people all around us, but then you have some bad elements in the society who maybe friends of your friends but not necessarily your friends. So listen to dominicans who are looking after your safety.
I don't give a rat's ass to my garbage picjup guys, they never work the days they have to. We are left with garbage here for 2 weeks sometimes. I give out money to beggers with missing limbs and poor haitians. Other than that, I do not show off my house to anyone. I think its a good idea to stay low-keyed.
AZB
 

NALs

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OK....couple of questions here. Please do not jump on me if I am doing this all wrong, remember I have been "Santiaguera" for all of 5 months!!!
I have 2 regular Taxistas, 1 that takes my kids to and from school and sala de tarea (at a whopping 8,400RD per mo) and the other whom I call whenever I need to go somewhere and am not in the mood to catch the carro publico. Also, my trash is regularly picked up each week by 3 gentlemen who are always very cordial with me.
Anyway, I bought 5 Christmas gift bags and put tissue paper in them and in each one put one of those small bottles of Brugal and a 20oz bottle of Coca-Cola. I thought it was very cute...
My "friend" from Sajoma says that I am setting myself up to be robbed, that I am letting people know that I have money. I think otherwise because I don't think a bottle of Brugal and some soda is going to make someone automatically rob me. What do you guys think? Are Christmas bags for the trash pick-up guys flashy?:ermm:
He thinks I am crazy so I have not told him about the 3 blankets I bought from Target for the Haitians who guard the abadoned house next door!!;) I always feel bad on some of these chilly nights...
Also, what amount of bonus should I give to the housekeeper. I already overpay her, I know that...but I found out the going rate after I offered her what I did and I couldn't take it back after that.
So do I give her a weeks pay when she is off the week of Christmas or what??
Have pity on me...Just tell me what to do and not to do.
Thanks
SHALENA
Ask your neighbors if they plan to give a gift of appreciation to the garbage man without letting them know that you are planning to do that. If they give you a weird look or tell you no, then don't give him anything.

Now, if most people in the neighborhood will be giving them something, then try to figure out how simple of a gift they are giving so you don't go overboard.

Chances are that the only gift a garbage man might get is a simple thank you and a Merry Christmas early in the morning, nothing material.

When it comes to acts of giving material things to other people, always ask around to see what other people in the area you are in give to those you plan to give. If they give, then you give something similar. If they don't, then you don't.

-NALs
 

dv8

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i understand, you feel sorry for poor folks but don't get overboard, you know. get you maid her xmas bonus and no more. give ron to those dudes but nothing else.
the more you give out the more they want. always. don't be afraid to say NO to people who ask for things.
 

SKing

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Thanks....
No X-Mas bags for the garbage men! And 1 month extra for the housekeeper.
SHALENA
 

SKing

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Nothing wrong with tipping or showing Christmas cheer but you do have to pay the maid the one month bonus.

If you are over paying her too much let her go after you pay the bonus and find a new one.

Isn't it illegal to fire someone without just cause?
SHALENA
 
if dominicans say you are setting yourself up for a robbery, you better listen to them. Its true, people will think you are super rich, a single woman living here all by herself, who is american etc, seems like an easy target to someone who is looking to rob some house. There are good people all around us, but then you have some bad elements in the society who maybe friends of your friends but not necessarily your friends. So listen to dominicans who are looking after your safety.
I don't give a rat's ass to my garbage picjup guys, they never work the days they have to. We are left with garbage here for 2 weeks sometimes. I give out money to beggers with missing limbs and poor haitians. Other than that, I do not show off my house to anyone. I think its a good idea to stay low-keyed.
AZB

I agree with you 100% AZB except in my case I have a home with 6-7 Hatians living in an abandoned house across the street. I hired one of them to be my watchman just so he didnt rob me or his friends while I am in NY. I always give them extra food when one of my wives cooks.Also when I am in DR I occasionally give them a bottle of rum on the weekends. I also have given them lots of clothing that I was going to get rid of over the last 2 years living there. I take care of them so they have no need to rob me or my belongings. I know that I am paying a watchman to watch himself and his friends but it has been a good relationship for 2 years. He gets paid and taken care of and I don't get robbed.
 

ExtremeR

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You are giving away Brugal el chiquito, not Blue Label, I don't think they will think you have a lot of money just by giving them that. They may already think you have a lot of money way before. I say give them the gifts, they will appreciate it.

And I am Dominican...
 

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I agree with you 100% AZB except in my case I have a home with 6-7 Hatians living in an abandoned house across the street. I hired one of them to be my watchman just so he didnt rob me or his friends while I am in NY. I always give them extra food when one of my wives cooks.Also when I am in DR I occasionally give them a bottle of rum on the weekends. I also have given them lots of clothing that I was going to get rid of over the last 2 years living there. I take care of them so they have no need to rob me or my belongings. I know that I am paying a watchman to watch himself and his friends but it has been a good relationship for 2 years. He gets paid and taken care of and I don't get robbed.

It sounds like passive extortion.
 

mike l

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Isn't it illegal to fire someone without just cause?
SHALENA

You can always say you sold your house and are moving. If she comes by in 6 months just say the deal fell through.

Here are the labor laws originally posted by Robert and Guzman.

http://dr1.com/legal/business/Labor_Law.pdf

An Overview of Dominican Labor Law

by

Fabio J. Guzm?n
Guzman Ariza & Asociados
Guzman Ariza Law Firm in the Dominican Republic




2.1.The Employment Contract

As a general rule, any and all relationships in which one person obliges him or herself to provide any form of service to another, in exchange for remuneration and under the direction and/or supervision of the latter, are considered to be employment contracts and subject to the provisions of the Labor Code (Arts. 1 and 2).

Such contracts, which may be verbal or written, are presumed to exist in every such case, unless proven otherwise by the employer. Given this presumption, it is quite possible for a person considered a private contractor in other jurisdictions to qualify as an employee in the Dominican Republic.

Any party to an employment contract may require the other to prepare and/or sign a written version of a previously verbal agreement (Art.19). If in writing, any modifications made to it must be in writing as well (Art. 20). Written agreements are recommended since they foster a clear and sound work relationship.

2.2.Restrictions and Obligations

Certain limitations apply to the terms of the employment contract and the persons being employed. There is also a series of employer-exclusive obligations that arise from hiring a workforce.


2.2.1. Working Hours and Shifts

Normal working hours may not exceed eight hours a day nor 44 hours a week (Art. 147). Employees in executive or managerial positions are considered an exception to this rule and may work up to 10 hours a day (Art. 150).

Daytime work hours range from 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. (Art. 149). A work shift is considered a daytime shift as long as no more than three hours exceed the 9:00 p.m. limit. Otherwise it is considered a night shift, which entails an increase in remuneration, as detailed below in 3.2. The weekly work shifts normally end on Saturdays at noon, giving the employee 36 hours of uninterrupted rest. Any other arrangement must provide the same minimum uninterrupted rest period of 36 hours.

A person is considered of legal age for labor purposes at 16. However, an employment contract may be entered into by a minor for nonhazardous work provided that the minor has reached the age of 14 and has obtained the authorization of his or her parents (Art. 17). Work hours for minors may not exceed six hours a day (Art. 247). Employment of minors is prohibited in establishments selling alcoholic beverages (Art. 253).

2.3.Bookkeeping and Filings

Employers are required to keep the following records on a permanent basis: (i) employee, wage and schedule listings; ( ii) vacations listings; (iii) overtime listings and ( iv) inspection visit records (Art. 16). Keeping these records and duly registering with authorities is crucial for employers, given that they are the only valid evidence that may be presented by them against employees in many cases.













3. Wages

Wages must be paid in cash and cannot be below the established minimum wage. (Arts. 192 and 193). The interval between salary payments cannot exceed one month (Art. 198). Nonpayment of wages by the employer is considered a criminal offense punishable by a fine and up to five years in prison (Arts 198 and 211).


MINIMUM WAGE BY SECTOR
Businesses in General (by Capital/Holdings in Pesos)
4,000,001.00 and above 6,400.00 DOP
2,000,001.00 to 4,000,000.00 4,400.00 DOP
Up to 2,000,000.00 3,900.00 DOP
Hotels, Casinos & Restaurants
500,001.00 DOP and above 4,970.00 DOP
200,001.00 DOP to 500,000.00 3,550.00 DOP
Up to 200,000.00 3,200.00 DOP
Other Sectors
Duty Free Zones 4,450.00 DOP
Private Security Firms 5,400.00 DOP
Non-Profit Organizations 2,587.00 DOP

3.1.Minimum Wage

Minimum wages are established by the National Salary Committee, a dependency of the Ministry of Labor, and vary according to the different type of business and their installations and/or holdings. Current minimum wages are specified in the side table.

3.2.Overtime

Every hour above the 44-hours weekly limit is to be paid at 135% of the normal hourly wage (Art. 203). Every hour in excess of 68 hours a week is to be paid at 200% of the normal hourly wage. Nigh hours are paid at an additional 15% (Art. 204).

3.3.Christmas Salary

In addition to his regular salary, every employee in the Dominican Republic receives, on or before December 20, a so-called ?Christmas salary? equal to one-twelfth (1/12) of the total regular salary earned during the year (Art. 220). To calculate the Christmas salary, only the regular salary received is taken into account, excluding tips, overtime and benefits received from profit sharing. The Labor Code establishes a maximum Christmas Salary of five times the minimum wage. However, many employers waive this limitation and pay employees who have worked the whole year a full extra monthly salary.

The Christmas Salary is exempt from income tax (Art. 222).

3
4. Time Off

The Labor Code contemplates several forms of time off for employees, such as leaves of absence, vacations and holidays.

4.1.Leaves of Absence

An employee has the right to paid leaves of absence in the following cases (Art. 54): (i) Marriage, five days; ( ii) Death of grandparent, parent, offspring or spouse or three days; (iii) Wife or companion giving birth, two days, and ( iv) Maternity leave, six weeks before the birth of the child and six weeks after.

4.2.Vacations

Employers must grant their employees a yearly minimum of 14 working days of paid vacation (Art. 177). After five years on the job, vacation time increases to 18 working days per year. An employee acquires the right to vacation after a year on the job.

Vacations cannot be fractioned for periods shorter than a week and may not be replaced with additional payment or any other form of compensation (Art. 182). The salary for the vacation period must be paid by the employer on the day prior to the beginning of vacation (Art. 181).

4.3.Holidays

Public holidays in the Dominican Republic are listed on the table below:

HOLIDAYS IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
Occasion Date
New Year?s Day January 1
Three Kings? Day January 6
Day of the Virgin of Altagracia January 21
Birthdate of Juan Pablo Duarte January 26
Independence Day February 27
Good Friday Variable (March or April)
Corpus Christi Variable (May or June)
Labor Day May 1
Restoration Day August 16
Day of the Virgin of Mercedes September 24
Constitution Day November 6
Christmas December 25


5. Termination

Termination implies a permanent break in the effects of the employment contract. Several types of termination are contemplated under the Labor Code.

5.1. At Will Termination (?Desahucio?)

Any party to an employment contract has the right to terminate it unilaterally without the need to specify a cause (Art. 75). The terminating party must give 7, 14 or 28 days advance notice of this decision to the other party depending on whether the agreement has been in force for more than 3, 6 or 12 months respectively (Art. 76). A late notice or no notice at all will entail a penalty of one day?s salary for every day of noncompliance (Art. 79). Employers who exercise their right to terminate their employees without cause must make severance payments to the terminated employee as detailed below in 5.3 (Art. 80).

5.2. For Cause Termination (?Despido? and ?Dimisi?n?)

Employers may dismiss their employees alleging one or several of the specific causes listed under Article 88 of the Labor Code.

For cause termination by an employer (?despido?) requires evidence of the commission by his or her employee of one or several of the listed grounds for termination (Art. 87). It also requires that the employer give notice of the termination and the grounds on which it is based to the Department of Labor within 48 hours of the dismissal (Art. 91). Failure to prove cause or to render the notice within the stated 48 hours will make the employer liable for payment of severance to the employee (Arts. 93 and 94). The right of the employer to base the dismissal on a specific cause for termination expires 15 days after the employee has committed the act alleged as grounds for termination (Art. 90).

The advice of legal counsel is strongly recommended before proceeding to terminate an employee for cause.

An employee may resign from his or her job for cause (?dimisi?n?). For cause termination by employees also requires evidence of the commission of one or several of the listed grounds for termination (Art. 96 and 97). If proven, the employee has the right to receive severance from the employer (Art. 101).





ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE
Time Employed Assistance
3 to 6 months 5 days? salary
6 to 12 months 10 days? salary
Over 1 year 15 days? salary per year

5.3.Termination Due to Incapacity or Death of the Employee

In the event of incapacity or death of the employee, the employer shall pay the employee, or his/her heirs, economic assistance in the amounts shown in the table to the right (Art. 82).

5.4.

SEVERANCE PAY
Time Employed Severance
3 to 6 months 6 days? salary
6 to 12 months 13 days? salary
1 to 5 years 21 days per year
Over 5 years 23 days per year

Severance Pay

Severance pay, due in the circumstances described above, varies depending on the duration of the employment contract as shown (Art. 80). When applicable, any sums owed by the employer must be paid within 10 days of the termination (Art. 86). Noncompliance entails a penalty of one day of salary for every day of delay (Art. 86).

5.5.Maternity Protection

The Labor Code provides special protection for employees who are pregnant or have recently given birth (Arts. 231 to 243). At will termination by the employer is strictly forbidden during the pregnancy of the employee and up to three months after birth (Art. 232). The pregnant employee has the right to paid maternity leave during the six weeks that precede the probable birth date and the six weeks that follow it (Art. 236). The employee has also the right to three rest periods of 20 minutes each per workday to breast-feed her child (Art. 240).

An employer who terminates a pregnant employee at will or without justifying cause for dismissal will be liable to pay the employee, in addition to the standard severance, the equivalent of five months? salary (Art. 233).





5.6.Suspension

An employment contract may be suspended either by the mutual consent of the parties or due to one of the other causes expressly provided by the Labor Code (Art. 51). Under a suspended employment contract, neither employer nor employee have to comply with their respective obligations for the duration of the suspension.



Before striking, unions must give a 10-day notice to the Ministry of Labor stating the following: (i) the economic conflict or infringement of rights which the strike aims to solve; (ii) how previous attempts to solve the conflict without striking have not been successful; (iii) that the strike has the approval of at least 51% of the union members and( iv) that the services affected by the strike are not essential to the public (Art. 407).


7. Withholding Taxesg

7.1. Income Tax

All employers must withhold income taxes from their employees? salaries and pay them monthly to the tax authorities (Art. 307 of the Dominican Tax Code). Currently, only salaries higher than RD$20,000 pesos per month are subject to withholding.

7.2. Social Security

The Dominican Social Security system established by Law No. 87-01 contemplates insurance for health and labor risks and an incapacity/retirement fund, to be funded by salary-based contributions to be made by both employee and employer in the proportions described below.

Concept Employee Contribution Employer Contribution Total Contribution
Health Insurance 7% 3% 10.0%
Labor Risk Insurance -- 1.25% 1.25%
Incapacity/Retirement Fund 7.12% 2.88 10.0%

Employers are responsible for payment of social security contributions, withholding their employees? share from the payroll. Contributions are capped at twenty times the minimum salary. Any amount above this cap is not taken into account to calculate the monthly contribution.

7.3. INFOTEP

The ?Instituto de Formaci?n T?cnico Profesional? (INFOTEP) is a public institution created by Law No. 116 of 1980 to provide training and continuous education to Dominican workers. INFOTEP is financed by a 1% tax on the payroll of all private businesses payable monthly.


8. Domestic Workers

Domestics do not benefit from many of the provisions of the Labor Code (Art. 4). Domestics are defined as workers dedicated to household chores, such as cooking and cleaning, when carried out outside of a business (Art. 258). Condominium employees are not considered domestics.

Domestics are not subject to any regular work hours although every domestic must have a minimum of nine hours per day of uninterrupted rest and a weekly rest of 36 hours without interruption (Arts. 261 and 262). Domestics do not have the right to receive severance pay when dismissed. However, domestics do have the right to two weeks of paid vacation a year after their first year at work and to receive a Christmas salary as regular workers do.
 

SKing

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WHOA........
Cheaper to keep her;)
SHALENA
 
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SKing

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Note that her christmas salary is 1/12 of her total salary for the year and as she has worked for you less than a year it not need to be an extra months salary.

Yes, I noticed that it is 1/12 of the salary earned during the year, she has worked for me 3 weeks so far. Today starting the 4th week, so I will calculate it. I hope it will be ok with her seeing as she has a "pie" job in the first place...;)
SHALENA
 
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If she worked for you 3 weeks so far, she is under the 3-month rule. You can fire her and no severance pay is due and I think no Christmas bonus either.

You can re-hire her several days later, at the wages you want to pay.
 

Lambada

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I do the Xmas present thing with people who have given good service throughout the year & with whom I have a personal relationship: bank managers, Consular office staff, hairdresser & assistants, girl in the Land Registry, investment centre staff, doctor etc. Never see rubbish collectors because Mercedes takes our rubbish to bin which is round the corner (van can't easily get into & out of our cul de sac) but now we have neighbourhood security guards they will get a little something too. I've never ever felt it was setting me up for robbery and no-one has ever, not once in 16 years, suggested to me that it might be. My Xmas gifts are no different from those given to such people by my Dominican neighbours. Mercedes (maid) & Ramon (gardener) of course get 13th. month plus an actual present.

I tend not to 'bribe' anyone during the year but at Xmas I will 'show appreciation'. Same as I would do in other countries where a personal relationship existed with these people. People are people, they like to be appreciated. Now, where is Nals poll on paranoia............? :cheeky: (jesting, jesting)
 

planner

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If she worked for you 3 weeks so far, she is under the 3-month rule. You can fire her and no severance pay is due and I think no Christmas bonus either.

You can re-hire her several days later, at the wages you want to pay.

Christmas wage is payable. Just pay it. As for firing and rehiring - don't do it. You will have one very unhappy woman working for you and that is an invitation for trouble.