Car manufactured in the DR...

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The first car made entirely by hands in the DR (not in an assembly line's factory).

The car was based on the Kit Car style still going strong in the US, but with the caveat that it was built with its own chassis and body 100%.

Using already available drive train, engine and transmission parts, the builder was able to bring to life his own dream of what a car should look like to him.

If you read the story behind is creation, is nothing short of outstanding...


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Nice McLaren F1 look alike.

I think you will find others have built kit cars in the DR.
I have seen a few floating around in the past 10 years.

It looks like they build the kits in Florida.
 

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Nice McLaren F1 look alike.

I think you will find others have built kit cars in the DR.
I have seen a few floating around in the past 10 years.

It looks like they build the kits in Florida.

The car above in question was not built from a kit but from scratch as a kit itself! The builders used their know-how on related fields to construct the chassis (the most important part of the whole concept) using a relatively sized actual vehicle as a model.

What distinguishes this built is the fact that the chassis and body that make up the actual car, were built from their conceptual ideas. Something rarely replicated if only in very limited instances on the kit-car manufacturing process.

The idea was to build an affordable super car look kind of vehicle that didn't compromise so much as kits are well known to do.

He moved to the US in order to continue his work in an environment rich with facilities to that aim.

Kit cars are pretty much custom body parts that are made to fit a set selection of already built car's chassis. This kit is one world apart from its design to completion on that regard.

Heck! If this is his first working concept, we can only imagine what he could achieve with the right tools and workshop in FL...

I like the car for its design curves and freedom to go beyond what an already aftermarket chassis could provide. The actual transmission and motor, given the conceptual initiation is understandably lacking. So far they're working on a more powerful and race-like V8 offering using Porsche’s traction and stability controls.

I'm a strong believer that automakers since Ford's first assembly line, have tried too hard to build all their vehicle's components; yet while aftermarket parts in so many levels have proven to surpass the original manufacture's ones by huge margins.

Can you imagine the robust GM models paired with Honda's or Toyota's engines? Give me a Brembo super brake over manufacture's stock options anytime!


I like the yellow one!
 
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This is very interesting. I have a few questions pertaining to this.

In the Colonial Zone there is a place alongside the river by Diego Colon's house where the hevitos gather(or used to) to blast music from their car stereos.
I was wondering if they still do this or have the police cracked down on this tradition.

These hevitos have some pretty incredible car stereo systems, complete with elaborate lighting.

Where do these guys get the parts to do the modifications to their rides?

Do they have clubs where they gather together to discuss aftermarket modifications and show their cars off?
 

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So which is it?

The car you see was built IN the DR by the DOMINICANS involved in the project. He later moved to FL in order to pursue his dream and build the cars as he's doing so today.

Several friends and biz people in the DR provided him with aid to have the car and himself shipped to the kit car show in the US. His car was the hit on the show understandably.

He later packed his bags and moved for good to the US in order to build his biz there...

The car you see atop is the one he made and tested in the DR as well...
 

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Home-Built DDR Kit Car Set To Invade America - Kit Car
A Homebuilt Car That Leaves Them Slack-Jawed!
By Eric Geisert



Have you ever sat back and considered what it takes to be a pioneer? If it is true that we are all products of our environment, then what is it about some folks who go far beyond the norm and provide a brand-new way of looking at things?

The kit car industry has been around since the late 1940s (when fiberglass was first introduced) and gained popularity in the '60s and '70s. But that fact is true only for the United States and England. Elsewhere in the world, though you can find them, kits are more often than not something of an anomaly.

Outside the U.S. and Britain, cars are just vehicles used to transport people and things between point A and point B. So to make a personal statement by building a car from scratch is virtually unheard of in many parts of the world, especially in the Third World. This includes the Dominican Republic, the second largest island in the Caribbean, where Diego Grullon has lived all 37 of his years.

But Diego is personally on the threshold of a new era. For most of his life, he's dreamed of building his own car from the ground up. When he was 20 (in '90) he received coverage in his local newspaper for building a Bondo and cardboard scale model of a car he designed himself (not something you'd find everyday in Santo Domingo).

We all may have doodled on paper and come up with some type of dream car when we were growing up, but keep in mind no car has ever been built from scratch in the Dominican Republic, and everything carwise in the country has to be imported. So when Diego decided in 2002 to build a full-size car for himself, it was going to be a job no one else in his country had done.

Most of the time in construction, whether it be a house or a car, you can go to someone or somewhere and get the advice of those who have encountered the regular problems you might have in that endeavor. But because no one Diego could find had ever undertaken what he was about to do, it made for a difficult decision: to invest a lot of time and money in something that may not turn out the way he wanted it to. But after spending years thinking and agonizing about whether he should or shouldn't, Diego figured it would be better if he tried rather than just think about it forever.

Diego had constructed a small-scale station buck back in the late '90s, and spent some time with racer Luis Mendez working on a GT racing team. He visited race shops and took pictures of frames and bodies, gaining a general knowledge of how a supercar should be set up. He'd already been poring over whatever European car magazines he could find, and ever since he was a small boy when his mother, Jeannette, would buy him toy cars, he'd been amazed by the shape of Porsche 917 and 962s, wanting to someday drive one of them on the street instead of the racetrack.

But the wheels didn't start turning for this project until after he had a bad experience with a local BMW dealer. Diego had saved his money and bought a new M3, and after owning it only five months, took it back to the dealer due to some engine problems incurred at the factory. They kept his car for a month. It got to the point Diego had to hire a German translator to write a letter to BMW's president in Germany! What's worse, when the dealer was out on the street testing Diego's car, they wrecked it! A long battle was drawn out over the difference between what Diego felt the car was worth and what the dealer thought, but with the money Diego received from the settlement, he decided to build his dream car.

He initially thought the project would take about a year, but it ended up taking four, and a lot more money, too. Though he had no garage (just a one-car, three-wall carport attached to the house he shares with his mother), Diego began his project by building a full-size station buck from plywood. The buck took six months to complete, and since he'd made no front elevation sketches, he winged it when he created his car's center area, starting with the windshield and working out from there. The windshield shape would give him a degree of layback for the A-posts, which would in turn give him the roof's shape. The side glass would be flat, and no rear glass would be needed.

The car's general shape was dictated by Diego's earlier drawings, and the location for the wheel openings was based on observations he'd made of a Toyota MR2, from which he intended to use both the drivetrain and suspension pieces. With the buck completed, he and his friend and righthand man on the project, Juan Ovalle, used polyurethane foam to fill the space between the stations, then covered the entire car with a skim coat of Bondo (check the photo layout starting on page 22 of this magazine for the complete series of construction photos).

The next step was to build the molds and pull body pieces in order to assemble an entire car. Through some trial and error, he was eventually able to get all the body sections made. In '04 Diego purchased a '95 MR2 and began designing a chassis to accommodate the parts. But for a reality check, keep in mind that electricity, at least as a 24-hour source, is not guaranteed in the Dominican Republic, and is both rare (as is the 220-volt current needed to power a welder) and expensive.

Diego was able to get a sponsorship from a local construction company that allowed him to use one of their generator/welders while he and Ovalle built his chassis. He also made good use of two books: Chassis Engineering (by Herb Adams) and Fiberglass & Composite Materials (by D. Aird Forbes). That, plus the time he'd spent examining all those race car chassis, paid off, as the pair was able to design and construct an appropriate base from which to hang the drivetrain and suspension.

Once the chassis was fitted with all of its parts and the body hung, Diego decided to debut his creation at the Association of Handcrafted Automobiles' 2005 Fun In The Sun event at Knott's Berry Farm in Southern California. As anyone who has ever picked a date to finish a car by knows, the days are long and expensive leading up to the occasion. Diego, who owns a sign shop that makes banners and billboards, neglected his business for four months (to the point where his regular customers thought he'd gone out of business) while he worked to finish the project. The arduous and expensive task of getting the car out of his country, into and across the United States with a Jeep and an open trailer, and finally to the show in SoCal was worthy of a chapter in Homer's Iliad!

He'd had the help of some very good friends in his country to get the car to this point, so, tired and beaten from the grind, Diego still managed to debut the car at Knott's, but it wasn't a driver and it wasn't finished to the standards he had set for it. But considering what he had accomplished--building a car from scratch with less tools than what you'd find in a basic high school shop class in the United States--is nothing short of a miracle. The opportunity generated interest in Diego's vehicle, and after he created the DDR Motorsport - The best Kit car in the Market - DDR Motorsport Web site, people who had seen or heard about the car could follow up with him on what his next step would be: mass production.

For this next level, Diego enlisted the help of Kerry Hitt, a composite and fiberglass expert based in Pennsylvania who helped him in 2004 when Diego needed information on pulling the molds off his car. Kerry is FAA-approved for making fiber-reinforced parts for airplanes, and he is also big in the Corvette racing world and the Grand American Rolex Sports Car Series (having personally won the Grand American AGT Driver Championship in 2002). Hitt offers different racing body kits for Corvette owners (see the ACPHome Web site for more on Advanced Composite Products), and feels there is a future in what Diego has brought to the table.

Hitt and Diego are currently working out the details to produce the chassis and bodies in the United States, possibly adding more carbon fiber pieces and even a V-8 powertrain to the mix. The current car is called the DDR SP4 (a sport prototype with a four-cylinder engine), but the eight-cylinder version will be called the SP8, with possible Corvette suspension and a Porsche G50 transaxle. At 2,280 pounds, the car should scream with a V-8 powerplant! Future versions should also include righthand drive versions for the Japanese, Australian, and U.K. markets.

Hitt's shop is also close to the Carlisle Fairgrounds, where the Import-Kit/Replicar Nationals are held, so spring 2006 was the perfect opportunity to bring the car to the show with a small crew--this time as a driver. Onlookers were slack-jawed when they walked up to the car, and if he'd charged a quarter to answer everyone's question of "What is it?" he would have made back his investment! The show went well for Diego, and more folks will undoubtedly be driven to the DDR Web site for updates.

To keep on top of the project's next phase, Diego is looking into moving to the U.S.--yet another major step in realizing his dream. He's already set up shop in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, but the cars will be built (with kits being offered at $23,700) and shipped out of Hitt's shop in Pennsylvania.

Though he can't tell the future, he's sure by the traffic on his Web site, plus the comments people have made so far about his car, he has something people want. Focusing on getting it to them is what Diego Grullon is now committed to working out. KC



Home Built SP4 DDR Kit Car - Kit Car Magazine
 

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You need a donor car, and hardware from other manufacturers.

He built a kit car prototype, a chassis and body. He didn't manufacture the car. He relied heavily on other manufacturers work. It may be a Dominican first, but there are a bazillion who did the same thing elsewhere before him.

Nice ride, though.

BTW-KC is one of those publications where someone pays to have a spread written about them. It's their business model, unless it's changed in the last few years. You commit/buy a certain level of advertising and you get a positive article.
 

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You need a donor car, and hardware from other manufacturers.

He built a kit car prototype, a chassis and body. He didn't manufacture the car. He relied heavily on other manufacturers work. It may be a Dominican first, but there are a bazillion who did the same thing elsewhere before him.

Nice ride, though.

Cobra, he MADE the chassis, Body and pretty much everything that holds anything in place. Buying actual tires, rims, gauges, cables, etc... Is not the same as just putting parts together. If you fail to understand this part, can't help you there!

Just like GM, Chevy and other car makers in the world procure parts from INDEPENDENT suppliers to manufacture theirs; this kid used the same independent market to avail the parts he needed to make the car RUN. NOT the actual vehicle which is the body and chassis in question.

Just like many automakers share platforms, bodies and chassis alike, so too you can find actual engines that belong to a practically different auto maker in brand name cars.

His concept was the actual project for this car; he made the car 100% from an auto maker's point of view and understanding of the manufacturing process.

In fact, all he needs to do is to either design a compact 2nd generation of his shop built chassis to better fit the parts he made in his shop out of fiberglass. Something that would machine out the rough from his conceptual and actually working model.

Take a second look under you hood and you can pretty much detail the manufacturer’s labels on much of the components that make your car run. The remainder (pretty much body and chassis) would be what your car's model manufacturer calls their brand.

Go and try to fit a Porsche’s traction on your Nissan stanza and see if all he did was to fit parts at ease to call his creation...

Parts are easy to manufacture Cobra, not so the actual platform and bodies that today's almost automated lines do. Car makers today are more the same deal like this kid, Car assembly owners. Much of the parts are brought in from independent suppliers by a long margin under licenses from the car manufacturers.

That's how the aftermarket parts came to be, once licenses ceased to oblige independent part manufacturers, the playing field took a turn and will never be back again to legacy part suppliers.

The car was MANUFACTURED by the kid and if his work is proof, the MANU part is way more accurate than that of internationally recognized car makers...
 
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PICHARDO, my handle comes from my days in the "kit/clone car" industry. I understand what he did fully. At one time in my life I imported a manufactured rolling-chassis kit and stuffed big block Ford FE motors in them. I dealt with the building and licensing of them, and I dealt with the various speciality publications that promoted them.

When Ford/Chevy/Porsche, etc., go to an "independant" source for a part, they usually spec the part to be built based on THEIR engineering design. This guy didn't design the suspension or drivetrain. He used what was available from "donor" cars.

OK, he "manufactures" kits. But if he "manufactured" real cars that are to be sold to the general public, the real criteria for an auto manufacturer, he'd have to comply with all applicable regulations regarding safety and emissions. I guarantee he didn't. No Kit Car company can or will, because their costs would go to absurd levels.

It's a nice Kit Car. But Exotic Kit Cars are out there in abundance.

I have no doubt the builders are fine people, did a good job. And I have no doubt that when they get around to dropping a Corvette motor in one, it'll be a hair-raising driving experience.

But he manufactures kit cars that someone has to title as such. He is not an "automobile manufacturer" in the sense of real auto makers. he's joining the ranks of the legions of other kit car companies: Kit Car List - Kitcar & Replica Manufacturers, Builders & Dealers Copyright Kit Car List?
 

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Listen to cobraboy as he knows what he is talking about. I too doubt this guy "builds" any components but rather "assembles" pre manufactured parts from others. Please pay attention to the nuanced differences in meanings of these words.
 

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I am sure the guy designed and built chassis, the interior, body parts and glass etc. the drive shafts, steering assembly and brakes etc were all after-market (including motor and trans). I am sure he designed the door panels the engine mounts and other custom fittings. the body panels, parts, bumpers and the shape was probably all designed by him and fitted together. So if this all constitute just another kit car assembled then what would you say about "orange county choppers"?
they also design and build the frame and decorative styling then they buy motor, brakes, shocks chains gears etc etc. why are their bikes called custom choppers and not kit bikes?
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Chip: I too know a thing or two of what's being talked about...

The body and chassis are not your brake pads or drums kind of a flavor you get over the counter at any auto part in the DR or anywhere else for that matter.

The guy built the chassis and body from scratch! No gimmicks about that!

Just going out and purchasing a drive train, engine and transaxle is not tantamount to building a car from zero to hang the parts to.

The choice of words is very selective and clear on this from my part, as well as from the large coverage the car builders received on this.

As far as buying the cover page and positive article on the magazine: Possible to do for a USA based kit car manufacturer, pointless and out of the budget for a DR based single head to make use of for any short to mid term commercial gains...

I used to build racing karts for a hobby, for me as well as for my nephews and kids. If something I learned rather fast on the basics, it’s that the chassis is the heart of the entire project; the body was your artistic and understanding of aerodynamics principles expression.

He did manufacture the car, no gimmicks there anywhere!

Now if that's not the truth, then tell me how car "manufacturers" inter exchange parts and entire chassis with one another from years back in the auto industry?

So this guy is somehow exempt from those rules? Must he build from scratch each single peripheral part included in his build? Even big time brands like Toyota BUY complete systems and parts for their vehicles from other parties not associated with the brand one inch. That includes the fact that Toyota only provides size/housing and the corresponding setting to attach the parts to their specific models; not so the actual part engineering or mechanical wizardry behind them...

The guy built the car from scratch! Using an engine, transaxle, brakes, drive train from existing parts taken from other vehicles doesn't take away from that fact one bit.
 

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I am sure the guy designed and built chassis, the interior, body parts and glass etc. the drive shafts, steering assembly and brakes etc were all after-market (including motor and trans). I am sure he designed the door panels the engine mounts and other custom fittings. the body panels, parts, bumpers and the shape was probably all designed by him and fitted together. So if this all constitute just another kit car assembled then what would you say about "orange county choppers"?
they also design and build the frame and decorative styling then they buy motor, brakes, shocks chains gears etc etc. why are their bikes called custom choppers and not kit bikes?
AZB

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The perfect example of this case!!!!!
 

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I am sure the guy designed and built chassis, the interior, body parts and glass etc. the drive shafts, steering assembly and brakes etc were all after-market (including motor and trans). I am sure he designed the door panels the engine mounts and other custom fittings. the body panels, parts, bumpers and the shape was probably all designed by him and fitted together. So if this all constitute just another kit car assembled then what would you say about "orange county choppers"?
they also design and build the frame and decorative styling then they buy motor, brakes, shocks chains gears etc etc. why are their bikes called custom choppers and not kit bikes?
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Uhhh...because he markets his creation as a Kit Car?

He doesn't market it as a ready to drive, certified automobile with NTSB and EPA approval.

Try getting one insured as anything but a Kit Car. Try getting one registered in most states as anything other than a Kit Car.

Nice car. But the guy sells it as a kit, not a fully manufactured vehicle.

And the prototype was built in the US. To say it is "manufactured" in the DR is simply inaccurate. It's not.

I posted a list of Kit Car manufacturers. Virtually every one did the same thing that guy did. Just fabbing a GRP body and chassis does not a "manufactured" automobile make. If that is not the case, then the rail buggies I see in LT and Jarabacoa are vehicles "manufactured" in ther DR, too, before this guys' was.
 

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Uhhh...because he markets his creation as a Kit Car?

He doesn't market it as a ready to drive, certified automobile with NTSB and EPA approval.

Try getting one insured as anything but a Kit Car. Try getting one registered in most states as anything other than a Kit Car.

Nice car. But the guy sells it as a kit, not a fully manufactured vehicle.

And the prototype was built in the US. To say it is "manufactured" in the DR is simply inaccurate. It's not.

I posted a list of Kit Car manufacturers. Virtually every one did the same thing that guy did. Just fabbing a GRP body and chassis does not a "manufactured" automobile make. If that is not the case, then the rail buggies I see in LT and Jarabacoa are vehicles "manufactured" in ther DR, too, before this guys' was.

NOT! The actual car you see in the pictures was BUILT in the DR 100%...

He took the car to the US for a kit car show, as you detailed the mountain of problems faced to get certification for this type of vehicle in the US, and left the vehicle there when he returned, mostly due to the fact that he gained a partner with ample experience in the field and lastly but not less importantly b/c of cost to return with the car back to the DR and having to build another for show in the US to potential clients of the kits.

Never was it said the car was being offered as a certified vehicle to be manufactured as any other vehicle in the roads does today.

But gollish! If the kid is capable of doing that much with ordinary tools in a homemade garage, imagine the potential to actually achieve an actual car that can be sold as any model from the big plants...

Tell that to the guys fitting Lambos engines to cars with a fabricator's name brand not even mentioned along side it. Or to the LT engines from Corvette in other models as well...

It just doesn't apply anymore in today's ever changing industries...
 

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NOT! The actual car you see in the pictures was BUILT in the DR 100%...

He took the car to the US for a kit car show, as you detailed the mountain of problems faced to get certification for this type of vehicle in the US, and left the vehicle there when he returned, mostly due to the fact that he gained a partner with ample experience in the field and lastly but not less importantly b/c of cost to return with the car back to the DR and having to build another for show in the US to potential clients of the kits.

Never was it said the car was being offered as a certified vehicle to be manufactured as any other vehicle in the roads does today.

But gollish! If the kid is capable of doing that much with ordinary tools in a homemade garage, imagine the potential to actually achieve an actual car that can be sold as any model from the big plants...

Tell that to the guys fitting Lambos engines to cars with a fabricator's name brand not even mentioned along side it. Or to the LT engines from Corvette in other models as well...

It just doesn't apply anymore in today's ever changing industries...
It's a kit being built in the US. He sells it as a kit. You even say it's a kit, not a "manufactured" car.

I posted a link of a few hundred manufacturers like your pals.

PICHARDO, I guess you haven't been around car guys much in your life. I have seen some stunning creations coming out of a guys' garage with normal tools. Go to any dirt track or drag strip and see what you find. You'll be amazed at what a guy with an idea and a few tools can do.

This thread reminds me of the young kid that built a homemade innerweb antenna that was hailed as nothing short of spectacular by some here...when what he did had been done a few bazillion times before, and even had a "How To" video posted on youtube.

Again, nice car, but the entire intent of this thread is way overblown. You make it sound like the average Dominican is incapable of creativity. From my perch, it ain't so.

Did you even open my link to kit car manufacturers?