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    Default How to decide where to live

    There seem to be quite a few posters looking for advice on where to live, or those that have already decided, ie have already bought land or a house or a business. Usually the advice they are given by long term posters is wise and comes from experience. However recently there was a lady who was looking to live in Barahona and was told how dangerous it was etc. So I thought I would see if there was any information around as to which part of the country actually did have a bigger drug problem; which part had more buglaries; which had more ex-pat violence etc, so that information could be given based on fact rather than assumption and/or hearsay. I have a farm in Barahona and I wanted to find out if a place I find to be much more tranquil than where I live at the moment, really was that bad.

    Unfortunately not a great deal of success!!! However I did find out that in 2007 there were 46 murders in Barahona province, 182 in Santiago and 71 in Puerta Plata province (including Cabarete and Sosua). Totally useless without population stats and those were only available for 2002!!

    Anyway I could find nothing on drugs nor expat stats.

    So the point of this rambling is to say that I did come across nice documentation on each province which gives a wealth of socio- demographic information which you might find interesting!!

    Oficina Nacional de Estadística (ONE) :: Perfiles Provinciales

    It is all in Spanish but is a good source to find out more about where you might or might not want to live.

    Matilda

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    I've seen these stats by province somewhere but can't seem to find them now. Anyhow, according to this article Las Provincias Por Dentro: Provincia Santiago Rodríguez menos violenta de RD (In Spanish) Santiago Rodriguez is the safest province in the whole country (which I can believe since I never heard of anything happen over there).

    I was surprised to see that Maria Trinidad Sanchez (Nagua) was the second safest...I would have never thought it to be the case, so Matilda you're right about perception vs. reality.

    I was happy to see that my province Sanchez Ramirez (Cotui) came in third.

    On the flip side Santo Domingo was the most violent with 414 violent deaths - No Surprise there - followed by The National District with 163 violent deaths. Next are Santiago with 141 and San Cristobal with 84.

    Oh and Sabana Perdida is the most violent area in The Santo Domingo province which makes it the most violent in the country. There I thought Capotillo, Las Canitas, Los Guandules would be even more violent...

    http://www.hoy.com.do/investigacion/...-Santo-Domingo

    Violent crime increased 22% overall last year. http://www.clavedigital.com/app_page...Articulo=16160 I see the alcohol curfew is working...Not.
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    i have read the data for puerto plata only and i already have doubts as to accuracy. number of deaths related to automotive accidents is way too low.

    the poverty level for the whole country has shocked me, thou.

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    I can't seem to pull up the link but would like to say that these types of stats you have to take with a grain of salt.
    I mean, of course the largest areas are going to have the highest numbers.
    SHALENA

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    The thread you mention (Barahona) had more ill faithed ingredients than just the location, including, living in a tent with small to adolescent children, little languages skills (if I remember right), no educational future planning for the children and a double pair of pink colored glasses leading to the believe that things in el campo (country side) had to be all as nice as the poplulation seems at the beginning.

    The drug biz has overrun this country from end to end. There is, as far I sense it, not one spot which has had the privilege to be excluded.
    Together with it, and especially where local consumtion has picked up too, crime has grown most everywhere.

    I think, one has to look at choosing a loocation to live in this country like choosing a car. One has preferences and inclinations (city, town, country side, North-South, coast-mountains... etc just like HP, colors, number of doors, high-low-sporty-utility etc.) and come SEE it and kick the tires.
    Not "invest" monies before having test-lived as a tenant for at least 6 months and keep an open. flexible mind.

    ... J-D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suarezn View Post
    Violent crime increased 22% overall last year. Las muertes violentas se incrementaron 22% este año :: CLAVE digital I see the alcohol curfew is working...Not.
    That was last year, this is now:

    (Be forewarned that the following article contains a typical sensationalist photo - just got to love Dominican journalists, eh?)

    Muertes violentas bajan un 13.26% en primeros meses

    One thing that should be noted is that the violent death data includes all sorts of voilent death ranging from killings to car accidents, electrocutions to suicides; basically anything that takes someone's life in an instant or near instant. Most people have a tendency to interpret these figures are purely criminal acts. As for why most people tend to associate violent death with crime and only with crime, I guess its paranoia; but there is a thread on that subject in the polls section already.

    -NALs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKing View Post
    I can't seem to pull up the link but would like to say that these types of stats you have to take with a grain of salt.
    I mean, of course the largest areas are going to have the highest numbers.
    SHALENA
    Ditto.

    Its good to see that there are still DR1ers with a good head on their shoulders.

    -NALs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKing View Post
    I can't seem to pull up the link but would like to say that these types of stats you have to take with a grain of salt.
    I mean, of course the largest areas are going to have the highest numbers.
    SHALENA
    That's why I said the data was a bit useless with the same year populations stats!!!

    Sorry you couldn't see the link - there is lots more interesting stuff like poverty, education, hospitals etc by DR province. Its the office of ONE - so you could google that in the DR Google and that should pull it up.

    matilda

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    if births go unregistered, what about deaths? i did not see any statistics regarding missing persons either...

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    non-fatal shootings up or down

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