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Golo100

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Has anyone bother to ask Leonel Fernandez why most of the cocaine air traffic being dropped in our territory from Venezuela has not been questioned? It is no secret that Leonel Fernandez is the secret new member of ALBA and answers to Chavez' orders. I am convinced that the continuous air droppings have the blessing of the Dominican government and perhaps as much of the planning.
Leonel's alliance with Raul Chavez is no coincidence. His recent sales of Dominican owned industries, land and other properties to Chavez is only the beginning. The recent failed attempt by Leonel to host Honduras' new president-elect Lobos and self-proclaimed clown Zelaya for a deal to end the Honduras crisis was a trap set up by Chavez using Leonel as his messenger. There has been much talk about this as well as local support by the usual socialist mouthpieces for this to happen. But the Obama administration knowing full well that it was a trap for Lobos prevented this deceiptful meeting by warning of its consequences.
Chavez' influence has reached now the powerful drug Czar Vincho Castillo, a man who years ago was the anti-drug mouthpiece in DR and now is one of Chavez' greatest supporters. Vincho knows the extent to which DR is committed to the cocaine traffic and where the roots are. But he is now detouring our local investigations with fake warnings about the source and destination of new air drops and conspiracies. He knows the PLD party, his own party's ally is the recipient of most of the drug dealers participating in our next congresional elections. Yet, nothing is being done about it. Chavez himself, thru his foreign minister, himself the speaker for the Venezuelan cartels is selecting and appointing many of the candidates running for election.
Leonel has appointed his own foreing minister to Chavez, Miguel Mejia. Mejia along with Narciso Isa Conde are FARC supporters and are involved with all the decisions made by Chavez in DR. Isa Conde as has been widely known, is FARC's Dominican representative ideological trainer and Ecuador president Rafael Correa's intelligence czar abroad.
How long are the Americans going to allow this drug infested alliance that uses left wing ideology as a pretext for higher business deals. Why are we getting closer and closer to an alliance with Iran thru Dubai's princes? Is there still any doubt? The new Leonel/Khadafy/Zelaya/Chavez/Ammadinejah alliance is no accident.
 

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He has the papers to prove it...

HB...who agrees but I don't think it can be proven.
 

suarezn

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Drugs? What drugs are you talking about? According to Pichardo and Nals all those new gleaming towers going up all over the place are being built by and for all the newly rich who are making their fortunes in legitimate businesses, so no sir you're wrong to mention the D word alongside Leonel's name...

OK enough comic relief...While I agree that some shenanigans are going on between Chavez, Correa, Leonel, et al I also have to say that is doesn't appear that The US has much interest in stopping the flow of drugs to their territories. if they did they could easily put some pressure on The DR government to straighten up their $hyte and could cooperate by for instance interdicting the loads of planes flying from South America onto DR territory. It's all about money and everyone is making tons of it (including The US) and of course the landscape of Santo Domingo is changing dramatically with those gleaming new towers...
 

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i was with you until iran and dubai princess. i have real doubt that both iran and dubai have interest in drugs.
 

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Can you provide some concrete proof of this Golo? If not, this thread may not be around much longer.

I agree. The ideas are interesting, but some "proof" would be good. Otherwise, even though we may agree with it, it could be deemed conjecture, or just pure opinion.


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Has anyone bother to ask Leonel Fernandez why most of the cocaine air traffic being dropped in our territory from Venezuela has not been questioned? It is no secret that Leonel Fernandez is the secret new member of ALBA and answers to Chavez' orders. I am convinced that the continuous air droppings have the blessing of the Dominican government and perhaps as much of the planning.
Leonel's alliance with Raul Chavez is no coincidence. His recent sales of Dominican owned industries, land and other properties to Chavez is only the beginning. The recent failed attempt by Leonel to host Honduras' new president-elect Lobos and self-proclaimed clown Zelaya for a deal to end the Honduras crisis was a trap set up by Chavez using Leonel as his messenger. There has been much talk about this as well as local support by the usual socialist mouthpieces for this to happen. But the Obama administration knowing full well that it was a trap for Lobos prevented this deceiptful meeting by warning of its consequences.
Chavez' influence has reached now the powerful drug Czar Vincho Castillo, a man who years ago was the anti-drug mouthpiece in DR and now is one of Chavez' greatest supporters. Vincho knows the extent to which DR is committed to the cocaine traffic and where the roots are. But he is now detouring our local investigations with fake warnings about the source and destination of new air drops and conspiracies. He knows the PLD party, his own party's ally is the recipient of most of the drug dealers participating in our next congresional elections. Yet, nothing is being done about it. Chavez himself, thru his foreign minister, himself the speaker for the Venezuelan cartels is selecting and appointing many of the candidates running for election.
Leonel has appointed his own foreing minister to Chavez, Miguel Mejia. Mejia along with Narciso Isa Conde are FARC supporters and are involved with all the decisions made by Chavez in DR. Isa Conde as has been widely known, is FARC's Dominican representative ideological trainer and Ecuador president Rafael Correa's intelligence czar abroad.
How long are the Americans going to allow this drug infested alliance that uses left wing ideology as a pretext for higher business deals. Why are we getting closer and closer to an alliance with Iran thru Dubai's princes? Is there still any doubt? The new Leonel/Khadafy/Zelaya/Chavez/Ammadinejah alliance is no accident.

This is what happens when you have too much free time in your hands under the hot Caribbean Sun...

First let us set the records straight based on factual proven data:

Under the current administration (Fernandez's PLD) enough drug interdiction and money laundering has been caught, which puts to shame the entire total of the same volume and cases of people prosecuted and shipment seizures than all of them together. The past year the DR for the first time, allowed foreign law enforcement agencies to carry out independent investigations within the DR's territory and banking system, which is why the current list of cases keeps piling up and foreigners involved in crimes captured and deported.

No longer are public or military high ranking officials secured from the log arm of the law, local or foreign alike, as before was the case.

You see more talk and cases being exposed in the news and media of the DR today, due to that very same fact. I told you here in DR1 a long while ago, about how the present administration heeded the "opinions" of a well prepared think tank made up of Dominicans. All foreign national's biometric data collected by the JCE's new equipment existing records, are being sent via INTERPOL, directly working with agencies like the FBI and US Marshals, the UK's Scotland Yard, Russia and Italy's organized crime units and others present in the number of foreign residents in the country to be scanned and matched to their criminal files.

Even when foreigner's can and have used fake names to get Cedulas and other documents in the country, their photos and fingerprints are run via a highly sophisticated computer system, able to match their face and finger prints with criminal records of wanted crooks...

The US is as of two years back, providing actual tracking information to the DNCD and the Air Force task force in charge of air interdictions and to the Marina de Guerra for sea vessels suspected of narco trafficking within Dominican territorial waters.

The problem for the DR forces was not that they didn't know they were coming and from where, but being able to match the speed of the drops and speed of the boats making their runs into the DR's territory. At best all they could do was to wait until the drops were made and set a security perimeter in the area to capture the contacts in the ground post drop, or follow up the marine vessels unloading point and setting up checking points within the region after the effect.

The purchase of the Super Tucanos form Brazil's Embraer, was to close the loopholes exploited by the narco biz. The US refused to equip the DR forces under the Merida plan (which they use to provide Mexico, Colombia and others with complete fleets of military grade equipment hardly only for drug operations) or to donate some mothballed F-16's or F-15's now sitting in the Mohave desert. They wanted the DR to finance the planes and the support long term via loans with US banks. The cost of only 8 planes (F-16's or F-15's) and the support for their operations by the DR, would make a purchase of 100 Super Tucanos look like the best bargain out for xmass shopping....

The DR got a low rate loan from the Brazilian gov backed banks to purchase a very versatile and nimble platform name the Super Tucanos... So good that even the special forces HQ was interested in buying a fleet for COIN operations. They leased one and tested it with great success now awaiting the higher-ups approval to tend an order to Embraer.

Before big biz and military brass walked as if coated with Teflon on their bodies and wealth, today they walk with Velcro and the wealth no matter under whose name it stands isn't protected any longer.

As for the meeting between Lobos and Zelaya? The US is now pressuring Micheletti's regime to allow it 100% without any conditions.

We get along with anyone, even our old historical enemy across the border! Being that we buy oil from Chavez at steep discounts, being able to pay with beans and sugar and other agricultural products, allows the gov to free itself from having to buy Dollars to pay the debt for energy like before. Now even being able to set the local gas prices for the home market and profit even more.

Under the Shell's administration of REFIDOMSA, seldom if ever did they invest into the expansion of the refinery or upgrades to satisfy the local demand 100%. They made more money importing the end products themselves into the DR market, than splitting the profits with the state.

Under the Chavez administration, REFIDOMSA is slated to expand, upgrade and become the main refinery to supply the local Caribbean region for Venezuela's and Mexico's raw oil end products. As it stands today, our REFIDOMSA is unable to refine Venezuela's raw oil into high quality gasoline and diesel. Once the upgrades and expansion are made, REFIDOMSA will be able to refine ANY oil sold directly by members of OPEC today.

We have oil in the DR in several found locations, the problem is that the oil is even cruder than the one from Venezuela's fields and the quantity doesn't warrant major investment for long term commercial applications. The oil deposits found at best could supply the DR's local market for about 30 to 40 years at reasonable costs per barrel based on initial investment to pump it.

The deal with Chavez will allow the know-how and equipment to come to the DR and pursue those deposits long term. It's in our best national interest that we follow that path today.


Photos below from the press office of the DR's Presidency:
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PICHARDO

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For those who think nothing of this plane's capabilities:

Skyraider Lite For SOCOM
March 16, 2009: The U.S. Navy (the Irregular Warfare Office) at the behest of SOCOM, has spent the last testing the feasibility of using the Brazilian Super Tucano warplane to support U.S. special warfare operations. The Super Tucano is a five ton, single engine, single seat aircraft. It is basically a prop driven trainer that can be equipped for combat missions. The aircraft can carry up to 1.5 tons of weapons, including 12.7mm machine-guns, bombs and missiles. The aircraft cruises at about 500 kilometers an hour and can stay in the air for about 6.5 hours per sortie.
Colombia is already using Super Tucanos for counter-insurgency work, which is where American SOCOM operators saw it up close. They liked what they saw, and persuaded SOCOM to lease one and try it out. For some older SOCOM operators, the Brazilian aircraft is yet another attempt to revive the legendary Vietnam era A-1 Skyraider. This was the most popular ground support aircraft during the 1960s. Developed at the end of World War II, the A-1 was an 11 ton, single seat, propeller driven aircraft that carried 3.5 tons of bombs and four 20mm autocannon. Cruising speed was 475 kilometers an hour, and the average sortie was about four hours. Ever since World War II, ground troops have been agitating for another A-1. The A-10 came close, but did not have the persistence (long time over the combat area) of the A-1.

The Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano costs $9 million each (to point to those that called the price tag for ours as bloated and padded with pay offs + grease elbow, even when ours are two seaters with night capabilities and other goodies ---RPICHARDO), and come in one or two seat versions. SOCOM wants the two seater, with guy in the back running sensors. The bubble canopy provides excellent visibility. This, coupled with its slow speed (versus jets), makes it an excellent ground attack aircraft. The SOCOM aircraft could be equipped to fire Hellfire missiles and drop smart bombs. SOCOM wants to lease four Super Tucanos as soon as possible.
Several countries use Super Tucanos for internal security and border patrol (mainly looking for drug smugglers). So far, 144 Super Turcanos have been ordered (including 25 by Colombia and 63 by the Brazilian Air Force) since it entered service six years ago. The aircraft is an upgraded version of the older Tucano, which entered service 26 years ago. There are about 650 of these in service in 15 air forces.


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Special Operations: Skyraider Lite For SOCOM
 

PICHARDO

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An educated comment made in a forum based on regards to opposition to the US buying the Super Tucano platform as wanted by SOCOM operatives:

"Bear in mind that the "SOCOM operators" who bet their own personal lives (and operational success) upon the weapons they bring into the field are the ones who have looked at the Super Tucano and like what it offers. They're far more likely to be authoritatively cognizant of the risk/benefit picture in their most likely operating environments than any of us commenting on this thread."

Source:
Skyraider Lite For SOCOM
 

PICHARDO

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Drugs? What drugs are you talking about? According to Pichardo and Nals all those new gleaming towers going up all over the place are being built by and for all the newly rich who are making their fortunes in legitimate businesses, so no sir you're wrong to mention the D word alongside Leonel's name...

OK enough comic relief...While I agree that some shenanigans are going on between Chavez, Correa, Leonel, et al I also have to say that is doesn't appear that The US has much interest in stopping the flow of drugs to their territories. if they did they could easily put some pressure on The DR government to straighten up their $hyte and could cooperate by for instance interdicting the loads of planes flying from South America onto DR territory. It's all about money and everyone is making tons of it (including The US) and of course the landscape of Santo Domingo is changing dramatically with those gleaming new towers...

Oh! You mean the cocaine towers? Suarez you're really something with your constant berating of the Dominican people and our development...

Its ignorant comments like the untold number you post here and all over DR1 threads, which render your opinions on most matters "comic relief"...

Just like the priest that sometime ago used the same "ignorance" to brand a hard working Dominican with your labels, based nothing else on the same ignorance and "knowledge" on how Dominicans come to develop economically in the country, unlike your Tony Montana's 1980's Miami and the Cuban waves...

For us the "real" Dominicans that grew here and make this our home, we can tell the legit from the narco in a heartbeat within our society. Only as of late, with the constant coming and going of foreigners have that line been somewhat blurred. We no longer can trust most foreigners when it comes to doing biz in the DR. That's why when you read the headlines in the news, most of the drug towers you speak so much about, are 99% of the time linked to foreign nationals doing biz in the DR.

The people who built the Miami of today are the same boaters that hit the shores of Florida as foreigners. Not the local hardworking mostly retirees Americans that sought to live their lives in peace by the Sunny coastal city of Miami. The same is happening in the DR with all the US, Colombian, Russian, Italian, Venezuelan and other nationals seeking to launder their drug or criminally earned cash in the DR's RE and banking system.

Only that since last year, as I repeated here many times in the DR1 threads, the DR adopted an open policy of work with international law enforcement agencies, in order to weed out those foreigners abusing our welcoming mat here.

Most drug dealers in the DR, if not all, know that the established biz community won't support or accept them within our commercial/social circles as they are. They tend to fund their own investments and rarely enjoy the benefits from those investments, as soon as the local authorities stop turning a blind eye to them as now they have something tangible to stick to them from the point of the law.

I'm waiting for you to name the names of those Dominicans implicated in the drug biz, which are partners with the large RE towers going up about the city as well as the Malls and shopping centers...

Facts Suarez... Gimme the facts!!!
 

PICHARDO

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Pichardo, given what you write about foreigners being run throught the system, how would you explain the current mess with Sobeida's boyfriend, with multiple ID's, Cedulas, etc.

Would it be because he got those docs before the whole biometric system was implemented?

And just when are we supposed to get the new biometric cedulas???

The Cedulas were under different names and completely different finger prints, the only thing that was matched was the face by the computer system. The DR already knew he was here and it was the Feds that halted the local authorities from arresting the guy... This man is working for them...

Call it a sting operation that went south somewhere... He was given enough time to sell his possessions in the DR and take his leave...

The face matching system has a probability % of 90 to a best of 95% without any other supporting clues to clear all other possibilities.

Think of him a la Posada Carriles type...

The new Cedulas with the smart chips are not even going to be issued this year! They still got a lot of data to mine and old records to clear before that takes place. Once the new documents are issued with the data encrypted, there's a less than 0.01% tolerance for frauds. There's even talk of gathering DNA data on all applicants to thin that possibility for fraud...

No less than 0.01% tolerance, no electronic currency, no identity theft security, no ID card type of Passports, no, no, no...

The DR will be seeking bi-national agreements with many other countries, where our citizens will enjoy Visa free travel based on how well we can guarantee who they are and their social-economic status in order to travel to those nations from our ports. As we are today, anybody can forge and buy anything. The DR enjoys one of the lowest percentages of Tourist visa violators to the US. To the US the violators are less than 1.5% from the DR... That includes those that overstayed their visitor’s tourist visas or were deported after violating the terms of the visas issued to them.

Recently the US consuls went on the radio to invite the Dominican citizens to apply for tourist visas, calling them to meet the financial requirements only, along the social morals of decent individuals. They said that plenty of those visas are available for Dominicans that may want to visit and vacation in the US.

The DR will have in place a secured system, one where individuals like criminals, convicted drug dealers, etc... Are prescreened before they can set foot in a plane to those nations that open their doors to our citizens visa free. The same will be asked from those nations we make those deals with, just like Canada, no person with a criminal record would be allowed free transit into the country without first passing several conditions.

Security starts at the exit door, we must guarantee that our exit door meets the expectations, based on those agreements for free transit of our citizens alike.

The records within the JCE are carefully being scanned and mined for frauds, it takes a while to do that and they hit a snag (well more like two) recently with the company in charge of that data mining process...

We have been finding many people that didn't want to be found in the DR already... The legal and legit foreigners that call DR home, like most if not all here posting in DR1, already cleared the scanning. Now we need to run the batch that went the other way and obtained their cedulas and other documents fraudulently since long ago. Like I said, it takes long and careful work to match faces with names and those that seek not to be caught... Many even tried changing their appearances and to lengths of having plastic surgery to that end.

That's why I placed plenty of advice here before in DR1, to those with legal troubles back at home to leave and take care of them, so that they could later return to the DR freely. No one single person captured via a warrant issued on behalf of foreign law enforcement agencies, will be allowed to re-enter Dominican soil...
Now many of you did think I was talking out of my rear, heh!?
 

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I tread carefully when posting on a thread related to politics because of my limited knowledge but here is my shot at it:

We don't know for certain how much corruption is going on in DR government. We all know it exists but to what extent? We can only IMAGINE. And, we arrive at conclusions when we see what is reported in the press which isn't always true. And from word of mouths from people we know who are "connected"

I find Golo's posts quite entertaining and sometimes disagree with what he has to say. But the thing with Golo is that the stuff he posts and in the manner he posts it seems to be written in a way in which one can interpret it different ways. Basically you can believe it if you want to. But SOME posters on this site post stuff as if it were 100% true. Come on people. I'd like to drink the stuff you drink every morning to give you so much assuredness that what you are posting is 100% true.

Unless you are Leonel himself posting I don't believe half the crap I see being posted. But, with that said, I can't take away the fact that it makes for some INTERESTING reading. Governments are corrupt all around the world. Some more than others. We ALL know this. Leonel, Hipolito...which is the biggest ladron? I don't know. But what I hear people say is that Leonel steals quietly and professionally while Hipolito steals right out of your hands and in your face.

Happy holidays!
 

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Oh and regarding DRUGS...please. We know it's the biggest stimulant of the DR economy. And if I may SPECULATE here a bit...I'd say it's a bigger profit than tourism itself. It's just that now a days with the media things come to light more often. But they are just upset because they want part of the action.
 

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Oh! You mean the cocaine towers? Suarez you're really something with your constant berating of the Dominican people and our development...

I'm waiting for you to name the names of those Dominicans implicated in the drug biz, which are partners with the large RE towers going up about the city as well as the Malls and shopping centers...

Facts Suarez... Gimme the facts!!!

I wish I had all your time to write extensively about this, but you see I don't work for the government so I actually have to produce some real work or I my employer will fire me. I'm not suckling on the teats of the "Res Publica Dominicana".

I don't know what you mean about me CONSTANTLY berating of the Dominican people (I would be berating myself). I've mentioned a few times that a lot of this development going on is tied to money laundering schemes (mostly from the drug business) and I don't think you have to be a psychic to see this. Now if you want to separate it and say that most of them are being built by foreigners then that's a different story.

I hope we become a developed country and to be honest I wouldn't really care how much drugs comes through the DR if it didn't stay in The DR, but unfortunately some (a lot lately) is staying there.

Give the names huh? Well since I still have most of my family down there and given that we're now pretty much a narco-state I'm going to reserve the right to do that. There is a lot info about this though that's public domain (i.e. US Department of Justice fugitives list - DEA - Most Wanted - DEA's Most Wanted Fugitives )

Dominicans are not just small players any more in this business. You're getting the Quirino types nowadays which are dealing in large amounts. We even have our own Tony Montanas in development (i.e. El Gringo)...

Believe it or not I actually enjoy reading your posts Pich...
 

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Pichardo, now that you have become the DR government's PR agent and publicists perhaps you ought to continue explaining why is it that if Leonel Fernandez and Hugo Chavez are such good friends and associates and Chavez would want nothing better than to make Leonel look good, as he has done with having him represent him de-facto as his mouthpiece for the Honduras situation, Chavez doesn't do the same by controlling the air drops from Venezuela. It has been public information, and it appeared in several newspapers here, that 90% of the flight traces for drug shipments come from Venezuela. Our local authorities announce almost on a daily basis that these traces are from Venezuela. Either Chavez has no control of his air space(something unthinkable knowing his dictatorship controls everything), or he is playing a double agent for Leonel(making him look good somewhere so he can destroy him somewhere else)or Chavez has no control over his crime ridden failed state.
Leonel Fernandez appoints all the local drug authorities, including Vincho Castillo. He knows full well who controls our airports security. The recent shipment interdicted at one of DR's VIP airport hangars where a private Venezuelan airplane was hiding drug traffickers and a cocaine loot has all the imprints of a government coverup. Where is all the drug that is supposedly being burned going to? When was the last time a drug burn was done publicly? Where is the Paya drug?
While we get bombarded on a daily basis with government drug interdictions, most of these are small caches compared to what is being bombarded from Venezuela. The Tucanos are nothing more than government propaganda tools. The problem is not the Tucanos. The problem is Chavez and Leonel. They have done nothing to bring this in the open. While Leonel's government has not been shy to blame publicly United States hunger for illicit drugs, he has never addressed the issue of his ideological partner Chavez' influence in the drug business and his lack of intervention in the illegal flights and drug traffic from Venezuelan airports, strips and ports.
I ask again? Why is this issue not been addressed? Why is it that Leonel's government is so shy about mentioning the "V" word for Venezuela everytime an airplane gets caught redhanded full of "V"? We all know they come from Venezuela. Who doesn't? If you are one of them you are ill-informed.
How many major drug arrests and convictions have taken place in DR? Outside of Quirino Paulino, whose arrest and extradition was the work of the DEA and the Bush administration, no other major case has been broken. Lots of raids and public relations, but few real arrests and convictions.
Today the questions remain as to how Jose Figueroa Agosto and Sobeida escaped the arms of our law enforcement people without government involvement and support. It was clear from the beginning that this was a major case. They had the entire gang under surveillance and control...then they all disappear? What more proof do you want?
Former president Juan Bosch was not only a socialist. He was a communist. His books, writings and actions as president left no doubt. His political theory of Dictatorship with Popular Support is no different than Hugo Chavez' outdated Bolivarian Revolution, and it was as close to the Communist Manifesto as anything ever written by a Latin American politician. It is no accident either that Bosch appointed Leonel Fernandez as his successor, when he named him his VP candidate over more experienced and proven politicians. Leonel, like Bosch hides under the democratic banner, but in reality he is no democrat. Leonel has created a political system in DR. The new system is to create a one-party system of cadres who will legally take over every elected office in the country to allow him to govern until he dies. The PLD party is now packed with people involved in drug trafficking and within a few years unless you are a capo you will not be able to run for office.
People inside the party are trying to do something about this. But they're being silenced. There are no current investigations, drug testing or inquiries about where these candidates are getting their financing.
While people like me have to justify every peso and dollar we deposit in the legal banking system or investments made with certificates of deposits, these candidates are financing their campaign with laundered money. There just isn't any probability that all this money is from legal activities. The PLD party knows it. But they can't do anything. At least those who do it within the bylaws of the party.
With respect to foreign policy, the new wave is to justify relationships with dictatorial and terrorist governments like Iran and Lybia by saying that governments should open up their opportunities for business and diplomatic relations with all peoples of the earth. That's fine and dandy. Except that there is a double standard used by people like Leonel and Chavez. While they call Honduras President Micheletti a dictator, violator of human rights and "golpista", they embrace Ammadinejah, better known by his compatriots as "el dictador". Here is a man who is the major threat to peace in the world, a dictator who stole an election and now oppresses his people, the press and all those who oppose him. They embrace Moamar Khadafy, a dictator for life, who has now appointed his son as eternal heir to his throne, and a self-admitted criminal who ordered the shooting down of a civilian airplane. Leonel is opening embassies in the most corrupted and dictatorial governments in Africa. Yet he wants to bring down Honduras to its knees by Chavez' orders.
Or does anyone really believe Leonel is doing this on his own. My question would be why? Why so enamored with this helpless cause? He knows damn well that eventually every country in the world will have to recognize Honduras newly elected government. Why the charade? No other Latin president has insisted so much on this issue to the point of going to the Non-aligned countries conference to represent Hugo Chavez' plan. Note that Chavez kept very quietly. He let Leonel do his work for him. Dominicans have nothing in common with these non-aligned nations. Why were we there? Why Khadafy? I proposed one possible reason months ago. That was that Leonel was himself afraid of a coup and the Dominican young military officers disgust with the present system. He needed to make a case for his own hide. While a coup here is not probable now, the roots and reasons for one have now been established with Honduras' precedent. If there is one government with high possibilities of future Hondurases, we are not far away. So is Bolivia, Ecuador , Nicaragua and yes, Venezuela. And I believe strongly that the Honduras coup was not only legal, but justified under the current undemocratic rule of most Latin Presidents. We are no exception.
I ask again. Why is Vincho Castillo, a man who all his life has been the most proliferate anti-drug spokesperson in DR now a friend an ally of Hugo Chavez?. Or has anyone here missed all the accolades Vincho Castillo throws on a regular basis for Hugo? How is it that the man who chased Jose Francisco Pena Gomez while he was alive with the conviction that Pena Gomez was responsible for the drug business in DR is now a strong supporter of the biggest narco state in Latin America?
If anyone in DR knows the illegal drug business, who is in it and how is run, it's Vincho Castillo. He is the drug czar and has been for many governments here. I ask Vincho...why don't you ever question Venezuela's official airline "Venezuelan Cocaine Air Drop Airline". Where does Venezuela get all these airplanes flying over Dominican sky without interdiction here or in Venezuela? If it were not for the DEA we would have never known about 90% of the interdictions here. And there is nothing the DR government can do but make them public after being uncovered by the Americans.
But left on our own, we would have the Dominican skies covering the sun flying cocaine from Venezuela.
And I am sick and tired of hearing the same old excuse that the Americans buy and consume the drugs, therefore it is their problem. Please spare me apologists! WE ARE CONSUMERS TOO!! and big ones. Every corner of every barrio and every residential neighborhood is infested with drugs. So is Russia, so is Venezuela's Caracas the crime capital of Latin America. So is Brazil. So is Mexico. Name one nation without drug consumption if you dare?
The problem is we want to hide the sun with one finger. We want proof of everything, when the proof is there. But the only one who has no proof of anything is Leonel's government, a government with a penchant for denouncing crimes, conspiracies and illegal activities on a daily basis, but refuses to give the names of the people involved. When was the last time you heard the Dominican Customs office telling the names of companies and people who introduce illegal products and substances thru our ports? Hundreds of cargo ships come in with smuggling and those interdicted always lack a name. Only the crime is mentioned. The names? Never. So why are you asking me for proof when the proof is there. Or what planet are you on?
 

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it just doesn't work...

Mexico recently gave up, legalizing small quantities of drugs for personal use. They were desperate, what with people getting killed by the hundreds and the drug gang violence spilling over into tourist areas. They just gave up.

The rest of the hemisphere is also suffering from the ravages of the drug trade and the common sense solution is still not seen as viable by most of these governments.

Here's what Mexico didn't do which the rest of us could get right:

Decriminalize the drugs which are commonly available through the illegal drug trade. License pharmaceutical co's. to sell them (creating billions in new tax revenue) and use the proceeds to educate and treat the populace, arm law enforcement and prosecute those who would attempt to circumvent the system (ATF has been doing this very successfully in controlling the manufacture and distribution of alcoholic beverages in the U.S. where DEA has only managed to spend hundreds of billions of dollars fighting an unwinnable war against drugs like a hamster on a treadmill).

Results:

Gone is the profit for organized crime.

Gone are the drug turf wars in our least fortunate neighborhoods.

Gone is the temptation of drug money that currently afflicts law enforcement and government officials, not to mention barrio/ hood kids.

Gone is the finger pointing between governments, L.E. agencies and politicians.

Gone is half the prison population of the U.S. (1.5 Million) which is further burdening the economy. I don't know the drug offense prison population of the D.R. but I bet it's equally disproportionate.

Last, but not least, gone are the full page posts and counters assigning blame for these problems.
 
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