Attacked and Left for Dead at a Dominican Republic All-Inclusive Resort

[frank12]

But bigbird, that's what I'm referring to... All this coming from dominican police, who are not exactly straight shooters at the best of times. They and the govt have big reasons to manipulate facts. This is the big elephant in the room obviously. We need to protect the country's reputation. So it has turned into this who did what.

I'd like to add a little to this...

Back in 2008 when the police gathered up the Usual Suspects--which included me--i sat in jail with 4-other Dominicans also arrested as "suspects" in a foreign girl's death. And who exactly were the suspects for the murder of this foreign girl?

One was a motoconcho driver that worked in front of the hotel. One was the Watchie-man (security guard) at the hotel, one was her ex-boyfriend from years earlier. And one was me--i gave her a ride home 2-days earlier, but had not been to the hotel for 2-days prior to her death.

So far, so good. They had suspects.

I thought, Ok, well now they will begin the process of elimination by gathering up evidence and checking to see where each person was on the day of the murder, looking at our clothes, shoes, talking to any witnesses, gathering up forensic evidence, etc. etc. you know...all things that could lead to the murderer or murderers.

Unfortunately, none of that happened.

Worse still, they never even visited any of our houses, never spoke to anyone to establish any alibis, never looked at any of our clothes or checked our bodies for any defensive wounds, never searched for a weapon, never searched any clothes items for blood stains.

In fact, it was such a joke, that they never even spoke to any of the people who were with us on the day of the murderer and who could account for our whereabouts.

But here is where it gets even more absurd: After i wrote the story on DR1, I got contacted by a news agency from the home country of the girl. A reporter told me that the police had contacted the dead girl's parents and said that they think they know who did the murder, but that the suspect was in Punta Cana, and they needed money to go and apprehend him and keep him locked up--or something to that effect.

The police wanted money from the dead girl's parents!!

I will dig for his emails later and see exactly what the police told him. But in the meantime, it's suffice to say that regardless of where this case leads, I would not put too much faith in the investigation team...unless, of course, they have since developed experienced forensic teams and investigators/investigation teams have been sent abroad to the USA to learn evidence gathering techniques, modern DNA analysis, and they have been fortunate enough to acquire new technological equipment to analysis any forensic evidence--especially any DNA evidence.

Anything else short of this, I would be having Red Flags sprouting up inside your head.

I hope they catch the person. I hope it's not a Dominican. And i Hope the DR can solve this case. But whatever you do, do not put too much faith in police statements or Hotel statements until they provide concrete evidence.

 

[frank12]

and the woman has big reason to manipulate things to get a big payday.............. i would think the PN would be cautious and careful of what they report as they are under a big magnifying glass .........

I don't know, waiting four months to go public? I agree with a previous post the woman was trying to negotiate a deal to keep quiet. When her terms were not met she decided to twist the tale a bit and try to do damage to the hotel. Trust me, the PN are just starting to dig up the "dirty laundry in her closet". In time it will all come out.........

I think you might have meant to say this..."And the hotel has big reason to manipulate things to avoid very bad publicity and losing millions in revenue."

 

[bigbird]

I think you might have meant to say this..."And the hotel has big reason to manipulate things to avoid very bad publicity and losing millions in revenue."

do me a favor frank12, don't try to put words in my mouth .............. OK

 

[bigbird]

I'd like to add a little to this...

Back in 2008 when the police gathered up the Usual Suspects--which included me--

a long winded story of something that happened over ten years ago...............

 

[frank12]

do me a favor frank12, don't try to put words in my mouth .............. OK

Fair enough, but is it reasonable to assume that the AI hotels have a lot more to lose then this woman? What the AI hotels stand to lose if she is telling the truth is millions and millions of dollars. The country stands to lose millions of dollars as well. Everyone directly related to the hotels stand to lose money. The publicity is horrendous. It's beyond horrendous, and everyone is trying to save face here.

I can't wait until some concrete evidence comes out...and as I mentioned already, I hope it is not a Dominican. I hope they release their so-called "video" footage and it shows something...anything that does not point to a hotel employee.

 

[william webster]

Easy Boys/Girls.... settle down

Yes CB - she had her cell phone and ultimately used it
No cash - zero missing

She refused to press charges while in the DR....supported by the US Embassy at her side

She refuses to return to pursue the issue... no charges - no interviews - no testimonies.

Apparently, she has put some time into asking for compensation.... for an event she won't put in official terms


So ---
she won't talk officially
she has tried to get compensation
no charges forthcoming - per the victim's wishes

Hotel said they did an investigation... to no avail

Hotel refuses to pay and suggests a larger investigation instead.

Have I got it right ??

and some here think she is on firm ground with her charges......and deserves her day in court

Write to her on FB and tell her that....
Get your duff into court Miss..... pursue this.....

and please - report back

 

[bigbird]

She was wearing some sort of shoes, unspecified, as the female member of the couple they were with on holiday recognised her shoes when they found her. Which reminds me, there is zero information about the other couple, Diane and James Doering. And no statement or corroboration from them.

"This was the hardest part, seeing her from the back, it didn't look like her, until Diane said those are her shoes," said Chris.


Matilda

ah yes, the mysterious other couple. It is quite strange nothing said from them. I wonder why she didn't ask Diane to take a walk with her to grab a bite to eat.

too many, way too many unanswered questions and questionable statements made.

 

[frank12]

Easy Boys/Girls.... settle down

Yes CB - she had her cell phone and ultimately used it
No cash - zero missing

She refused to press charges while in the DR....supported by the US Embassy at her side

She refuses to return to pursue the issue... no charges - no interviews - no testimonies.

Apparently, she has put some time into asking for compensation.... for an event she won't put in official terms


So ---
she won't talk officially
she has tried to get compensation
no charges forthcoming - per the victim's wishes

Hotel said they did an investigation... to no avail

Hotel refuses to pay and suggests a larger investigation instead.

Have I got it right ??

and some here think she is on firm ground with her charges......and deserves her day in court

Write to her on FB and tell her that....
Get your duff into court Miss..... pursue this.....

and please - report back

Ok, I'll play the game:

1. How can she press charges when they do not have a suspect?

2. Return to the DR for what exactly? They haven't caught anyone. Why would she return? It would be a waste of money. A waste of taking time off of work. A waste of energy.

3.) She asked for compensation...hell yeah! She must have had a very large medical bill/bills. They will not release you here until you pay up!! Wasn't she in the hospital for a couple of days? How about her medical expenses back home? Does she not deserve some form of compensation if she was attacked on the hotel grounds?

4.) Did her husband have any wounds on his hands? What kind of police investigation was done? They interviewed him, right? Did they not notice anything about him or his hands? Any wounds? Any scratches?

 

[william webster]

Frank - you are NOT this dense - just obstinate , I guess

1/ charges = register the event officially... with the aide of the US Embassy - who offered

2/ return to do the above and make am official statement for the record

3/ asked for money - or I'll go public... game of $$ chicken--- and lost

4/ can't answer about him.. he was never a suspect and won't be interviewed either

 

[kingofdice]

I remember my friend Jan, calling the PN in Juan Dolio over a theft in her hotel room. She said the PN officer arrived with a small "Winnie The Pooh" spiral notebook to take down her information.

 

[Big]

a long winded story of something that happened over ten years ago...............

Indeed! he was investigated and released allegedly, how is that a parallel.

 

[frank12]

Frank - you are NOT this dense - just obstinate , I guess

1/ charges = register the event officially... with the aide of the US Embassy - who offered

2/ return to do the above and make am official statement for the record

3/ asked for money - or I'll go public... game of $$ chicken--- and lost

4/ can't answer about him.. he was never a suspect and won't be interviewed either

First, never under-estimate my stupidity...it knows no bounderies!

1. Where is the evidence that the US Embassy offered to aid her in filing charges? And would she be required to go to the police station once she got out of the hospital to do so?

2. Why would she want to return back to the DR to file charges? IN every other country, there would be no need for this. The police took her report at the hospital. Done deal! Why take off work and come all the way back down to the DR...for what..spend thousands of dollars just to do some more paper work?

3. She has every right to ask for money if the attack happened on hotel grounds and her family or friends were not involved.

4. You say the husband was never a suspect? They must had a good reason for that, no? And they did speak to him at the hospital, no? They would have noticed something about his hands, face, etc, no?

 

[Big]

Here we go, it's blame the police and establishment time... If they stayed at an Airbnb and not a large corporate entity to shake down this would be another drunken gringo vacation.

 

[william webster]

I'm guessing Frankie Boy....you haven't read the 60+ pages huh?

The answers to your questions are there.....

Don't ask me to be your librarian...

Have you FaceBooked her yet -- ask her this stuff.... as I suggested earlier

 

[Caonabo]

And to you all who believe this guy, every single word, please answer the question why?

It has been explained why in every single post of mine within this thread. Nothing more to say.

 

[NanSanPedro]

you always seem to have the right words..

yes...does anyone here believe that the girls from the typing pool don't know who beat her face?

lol, typing pool? Did you retire 35 years ago????

just funnin

 

[bigbird]

Here we go, it's blame the police and establishment time... If they stayed at an Airbnb and not a large corporate entity to shake down this would be another drunken gringo vacation.

Blame the police, it happens in every crime thread. Then when the police do their job and solve the case all the critics stick their heads in the sand until next crime. It is a proven track record on dr1.

 

[frank12]

Indeed! he was investigated and released allegedly, how is that a parallel.

The parallel is this: I was arrested with four other good, hard working Dominicans as suspects for a girl's murder. I saw first hand the DR police's lack of investigation work. To say it was a joke would be an insult to jokes. To say it was horrendous is an insult to the word horrendous. It was beyond anything anyone here can imagine, and its beyond what anyone here would be familiar with in the USA or Europe.

So, for the woman to go back home thinking, "Ok, I'm fine now, the police will take over and do their thorough police investigation and find the suspect," would be the normal feelings for anyone of us that has no experience with the DR police.

I know better.

Whatever happened with the case of the missing Floridian (Ex-professional tennis player) in Cabarete? How did their fabulous police work with in that case?

I understand that in some cases the police fair well, and they catch the right people. But maybe those cases have everything laid out for them--eye-witnesses, paper trails, fingerprints, etc.

When those things are not available, how good are their forensic teams here? Do they even have a forensic team here?

Again, I hope it is not a Dominican, because who wants that kind of bad publicity? No one.

 

[jd426]

Indeed! he was investigated and released allegedly, how is that a parallel.

If you read it closely, he is trying to Play both sides.
He " HOPES and Prays its NOT a Dominican" .. yet he writes a story with absolutely ZERO similar Moving parts , to either insert himself into this .. .or to show that oh yes, a Dominican IS Capable of such Violence ... even though he forgot the most important point of HIS Long winded story
A MOTIVE.. was there a Motive Frank ?? he does not say .. cuz he knows there WAS one in HIS long story ..
and there is NONE in this case .


And yes Frank, I am upset at you a little .. you are not this Obtuse .. stop trying to play everyone at the same time.
no matter how this story turns out, you will claim " I told you so".. cuz you are trying to play both sides .without blaming
" the VICTIM" which someone makes you better than all of us ?

at least we took a SIDE...
The Hotel took a Side

and now the DR Govt will also take a Side ..

The side of investigating the FACTS.. Not Emotions .

......

So, for the woman to go back home thinking, "Ok, I'm fine now, the police will take over and do their thorough police investigation and find the suspect," would be the normal feelings for anyone of us that has no experience with the DR police.
.

And now you have resorted to just MAKING STUFF UP..
Show us one part of the story where she ( the victim ) thought this , and just PATIENTLY waited for 4 months ..for the Crime to be solved by the DR Police.
Show us one shred of evidence of this ... Did she say anything like this in her story ?

 

[william webster]

are you writing all this from Jail F12 ???

you're all worked up