Average wage in DR not enough for basic family budget

[scot_tosh]

Average salary is only enough to cover 71% of the basic monthly family budget

<p>Having a job in the formal sector in the Dominican Republic does not imply receiving a salary that allows the worker to cover all the products and services needed to fulfill the basic needs of the national basic family grocery budget, at least in terms of average. The figures indicate that...

dominicantoday.com

 

[bob saunders]

Yet they somehow managed to be able to go to the salon and buy beer and rum,

 

[NALs]

There is usually a discrepancy in the comparisons. That explains certain things between what is published in the newspaper about this topic and what is seen. One of the most obvious is comparing the salary of one job with the average cost of a canasta familiar (familiar aka household with the average have multiple salary earners and/or more than one salary per earner). Not to mention that quite often it'd done to the average cost of the canasta familiar when its split in levels depending on the class, since consumption patterns isn't the same.

For many years there was another problem when it came to comparing the unemployment figure of the DR vs other countries. The comparison was often not valid because the DR presented one type of data when most other countries presented another type. Both types were always measured by the Dominican Central Bank, but what was often published as the "official one" was not what was most often used by other countries. As a consequence, the DR almost always appeared as having among if not the highest unemployment rate in Latin America, which was basically a lie because it wasn't comparable. A few years ago they switched the official data to reflect the methodology used in most countries and now it turns out the DRdoesn't have among the highest unemployment rate in Latin America. Except in certain crisis, that was always the case.

 

[rfp]

Average salary is only enough to cover 71% of the basic monthly family budget

<p>Having a job in the formal sector in the Dominican Republic does not imply receiving a salary that allows the worker to cover all the products and services needed to fulfill the basic needs of the national basic family grocery budget, at least in terms of average. The figures indicate that...

dominicantoday.com

Wow so insightful, I had never thought that people were poor in the 3rd world. It changes everything for me now.

How can I change this from a systematic perspective, obviously with a gender neutral lens ? The current situation is so problematic

 

[scot_tosh]

Dominican Republic wages lag behind inflation for 2 decades

<p>Santo Domingo.- The wage level in the country, for two decades, has lagged behind inflation, which has caused the deterioration of its participation in income generation, because it has not advanced as average productivity has. Former Minister of Economy, Isidoro Santana, pointed out that the...

dominicantoday.com

 

[scot_tosh]

Wow so insightful, I had never thought that people were poor in the 3rd world. It changes everything for me now.

How can I change this from a systematic perspective, obviously with a gender neutral lens ? The current situation is so problematic

The Republica Dominicana is a wealthy country, problem is that the people at the top keep all the money for their own greed and shaft the people at the bottom

 

[josh2203]

The Republica Dominicana is a wealthy country, problem is that the people at the top keep all the money for their own greed and shaft the people at the bottom

Well said:

Big payroll increases at Superintendence of Insurance

So much for government efficiency. Superintendent of Insurance Josefa Castillo says she has increased the payroll at the Superintendence of Insurance from RD$22 million a month to around RD$26 million, around 18%. And all that while firing 300 employees when taking charge. “I have increased the...

dr1.com

 

[Africaida]

Yet they somehow managed to be able to go to the salon and buy beer and rum,

Who want be poor miserable and look like sh*t ???
I don't blame them

 

[NanSanPedro]

Who want be poor miserable and look like sh*t ???
I don't blame them

It's also an age thing. When I was under 35 BS like that was important. Now, not so much.

 

[Africaida]

It's also an age thing. When I was under 35 BS like that was important. Now, not so mu

The paca clothes and the salon trip would not make a difference. So, yeah, they are allowed-and deserve-to look semi decent and enjoy life whether they are 20 or 75.

And, I love and respect that part about here.

And if I were poor with nearly 0.000001% of coming out of it, I would cherish my romito even more.

 

[Big]

Yet they somehow managed to be able to go to the salon and buy beer and rum,

so true, and sit on a shiny moto all day every day in the same spot waiting for god knows what

 

[USA DOC]

The age old formula is alive and well here......keep the one that runs the family ( female ) Barefoot, uneducated. pregnant, and poor... and with little hope of these things changing........

 

[bob saunders]

The age old formula is alive and well here......keep the one that runs the family ( female ) Barefoot, uneducated. pregnant, and poor... and with little hope of these things changing........

There are far more female high school and university grads that are female in this country than males.

 

[bob saunders]

Who want be poor miserable and look like sh*t ???
I don't blame them

Not casting blame, just pointing out that all those " poor people" are suffering as much as many here think.

 

[Radical]

Yet they somehow managed to be able to go to the salon and buy beer and rum,

They also choose to eat Platos del Dia, meanwhile, could afford to eat at any restaurant you and I pick for dinner......oh the euphemism on that is astonishing even to me.

Some will get it, some will flip like a toston.

 

[rfp]

They also choose to eat Platos del Dia, meanwhile, could afford to eat at any restaurant you and I pick for dinner......oh the euphemism on that is astonishing even to me.

Some will get it, some will flip like a toston.

Geez- this got distorted. What was said was that Plato del Dia isnt just for poor people. The real poor folks cant even afford that . In any event it was a fun chat

 

[Radical]

How could it not be enough?

A condo Guard makes 23K per month, that is not cheap change...... just rhetorical, just rhetorical.

 

[CristoRey]

The Republica Dominicana is a wealthy country, problem is that the people at the top keep all the money for their own greed and shaft the people at the bottom

100% aGREED.
I've been telling people the same thing for years.

 

[Eugene_A]

You now, if you read newspapers and official reports, or message boards like this one, you may have the impression that 99,9% of the country are poor people who get the minimal salary and only some government officials, businessmen and drug dealers are rich.

But when I drive around Santo Domingo, I see thousands of expensive SUVs everywhere. I see more new Lexuses, Prados, Lincolns and Porsches than I have seen in any US or European city. IKEA is full of people buying something, there are long lines and they all spend thousands of pesos. Their parking lot is always full, half of all vehicles are expensive SUVs. Supermercados Nacional, Jumbos, La Sirena.... any hour, they are full of people buying something. It looks like nobody is working, everybody is shopping. Every time I park at Nacional in Naco, I see at least three or four cars that cost more than 100,000 dollars, other vehicles are new models of Jeep Grand Cherokee, Wranglers, Mercedes, etc. And if you go to Blue Mall, their parking lot looks more like a luxury car exhibition.

I went to the Marmotech store yesterday. It's the most expensive store selling luxury tiles, marble floors, and other materials like that. Most of materials are imported from Europe, prices are crazy high. Both levels of parking were totally busy, not a single space available to park! I spent 15 minutes waiting until somebody left. The store was full of customers, I had to wait 15 minutes to be attended by somebody.

There are so many towers in construction in Naco and Piantini now. The construction here did not slow down during Covid, it speeded up like crazy! And the more expensive they are, the faster they sell! Constructora Cumbre built several towers in my area, prices in their building start from around 400,000 dolars for apartment on lower floors, and up to 700.000 for higher floors or penthouse. And they were all sold at the time they built the basement.

WHO ARE ALL THOSE PEOPLE who spend money on all of that? They can't be all government officials, or drug dealers, or baseball stars, or big business owners, right? They can't be the ones who earn 10,000 or 20,000 pesos per month either.

 

[Radical]

WHO ARE ALL THOSE PEOPLE who spend money on all of that? They can't be all government officials, or drug dealers, or baseball stars, or big business owners, right? They can't be the ones who earn 10,000 or 20,000 pesos per month either.

That is exactly who they are.

There are so many towers in construction in Naco and Piantini now. The construction here did not slow down during Covid, it speeded up like crazy! And the more expensive they are, the faster they sell!

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Every time I park at Nacional in Naco, I see at least three or four cars that cost more than 100,000 dollars, other vehicles are new models of Jeep Grand Cherokee, Wranglers, Mercedes, etc. And if you go to Blue Mall, their parking lot looks more like a luxury car exhibition.

100% in agreement.

While at the meantime there a literally thousands walking miles at the time to get to their working places, that is after taking two or three public cars or guaguas from their respective barrios.

I went to the Marmotech store yesterday. It's the most expensive store selling luxury tiles, marble floors, and other materials like that. Most of materials are imported from Europe, prices are crazy high. Both levels of parking were totally busy, not a single space available to park! I spent 15 minutes waiting until somebody left. The store was full of customers, I had to wait 15 minutes to be attended by somebody.

None of them would be living in Capotillo, Luperon, Los Praditos, Los Guandales