Barbecue knows English?!

Big

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I think Big is scared of Haitians
Another accurate statement. Every time I see a person that resembles a Haitian I run. Which keeps me in good shape as I must run the equivalent of a marathon a day.
 

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false! most Haitians in fact do not speak either Spanish or functional French. Creole is a local tongue that is useless outside of Haiti. Unless one wants to bus tables. This is a huge obstacle for the Haitians.
Not defending Seamonkey, but he said most of the Haitians he knows. That may be the case.
Just keep in mind 1% of Haitians amounts to about 100,000 people. It’s possible that most Haitians known in person are part of that 1%. By no stretch of the imagination is 1% representative of the whole. Not even 10% is a good representation and there we’re talking about a million people.
 
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“Haiti has the highest rate of illiteracy in the western hemisphere with 40% of the population unable to read and write.”


That’s the reason maybe why the adults in RD speak hardly any French ot other languages. Saying goodmorning and thank you and give me, doesn’t mean speaking English to me.
And for the foreigners that say they speak Spanish…if you never studied and applied the Spanish grammer you don’t speak Spanish. You might be able to defend in the language.
 
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Not defending Seamonkey, but he said most of the Haitians he knows. That may be the case.
Just keep in mind 1% of Haitians amounts to about 100,000 people. It’s possible that most Haitians known in person are part of that 1%. By no stretch of the imagination is 1% representative of the whole. Not even 10% is a good representation and there we’re talking about a million people.
Like I indicated. By the end of the thread, people will be claiming to have had high tea with Haitian philosophers.
 
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Oh dear. When you said good night yesterday I hoped you would cease your nonsense here but I see you have woken up refreshed and ready to resume.
good morning, Sir How are things in the bustling city of Cabarete this lovely a.m
 

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There seems to be a lot of assumptions that those saying that Haitians that they know are able to speak different languages are actually unable to determine a rough idea of their competency and ability to do so. Quite a stretch since they don't know the people in question. Hubris at its worst. And I'm not just referring to any one poster here regardless of who they are, claim to be or what persona they are playing
 
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Not only that but I have generally found that most Haitian that I have met are better educated than all but the most educated Dominicans and also many gringos of whatever flavor.
 

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“Many also speak German or Dutch”

I am sorry PJP, I lived for ten years in SD and in La Vega and go to the RD twice a year now and never ever met a Haitian that speaks German. Dutch? Are you joking?
Send me a Haitian that speaks dutch to were I live and you will be my guest for a good ten years old bottle of Bourgogne.
You're welcome to your opinion and I can't take away from your experience but mine has been different. After asking amongst my friends and travel aquaintences they mostly concur with my experience and opinion and none of them agree with the sentiment that Haitians are uneducated and unable to speak multiple languages. Perhaps it's that those we meet are the higher achievers or more fortunate and had access to better or more schooling. I have no doubt that there are also many that have only managed to escape Haiti hoping for a better life and doing what they can with less resources and opportunity and that are in the DR illegally. All those that I'm aware are legal, and I can't speak to those here illegally working in construction, prostitution and other meanial low skill work.
 

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Not only that but I have generally found that most Haitian that I have met are better educated than all but the most educated Dominicans and also many gringos of whatever flavor.

This is a loaded comment.

1. Haiti has one of the highest brain drains in the western world. If they want to develop they would all need to return home, but low trusts in civics means it’s never going to happen.

2. You’re only as educated as what you produce. There’s an obvious departure from that supposed superior education and basic civic leadership. Some groups are better in subordinate roles no matter how painful that is to hear.

3. From the space cadet on the corners of Sosua to PhD recipients in the United States, all of them have poor historical comprehension. I’ve met plenty that speak perfect English but don’t really understand basic sentences. They have a cultural indoctrination that only rivals Somali culture in my experience. Unsurprising both are abject failures of nations, with deep historic rifts and internal strifes.
 
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Do when do you come over with your Dutch speaking Haitian please?
Do you realize how many people of Haitian descent live in The Netherlands? Don't all that emigrate have to learn Dutch, take classes, pass exams to qualify? That you have not come across a Dutch speaking Haitian is statistically meaningless and your blanket denial that they exist is akin to an ostrich burying its head. I had expected better from you after reading your posts.
 

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Do you realize how many people of Haitian descent live in The Netherlands? Don't all that emigrate have to learn Dutch, take classes, pass exams to qualify? That you have not come across a Dutch speaking Haitian is statistically meaningless and your blanket denial that they exist is akin to an ostrich burying its head. I had expected better from you after reading your posts.
I'm waiting for you to say pathetic.
 

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Go back to The Netherlands, there are tens of thousands of Haitians living there that has to learn Dutch to qualify, just like all who wish to emigrate there 😉
There is a lot of them in the Dutch Caribbean, why? because prostitution is legal. They are not going there to do computer coding. They cannot speak Dutch, period. Aruba has many of them, mostly girls.
 
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Do you realize how many people of Haitian descent live in The Netherlands? Don't all that emigrate have to learn Dutch, take classes, pass exams to qualify? That you have not come across a Dutch speaking Haitian is statistically meaningless and your blanket denial that they exist is akin to an ostrich burying its head. I had expected better from you after reading your posts.
Nice trying to escape but you know very well we were talking about Haitians in the DR.
If we follow your reasoning then I could say there are hatians who speak Italian, Portuguese, Swahili,
Swedish, German, etc etc.