It was Bond's 5th yr before he hit 30hr in a year.....by that time Pujols had 5, 30 hr seasons, going on for 12 in a row....No player has ever done this feat, not even Bonds.....and isn't this about Dominican players.....
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Best Dominican Baseball Player Of All Time and the Best One Now
Yeah getting paid with American money, playing in American cities, playing in front of American people.
BTW Pujols is a POWER hitter always was, Bonds did not become a HR KING until later in his career. Albert would tell you ALL AROUND baseball player Bonds was better. HRs put people in the seats PERIOD.
Overall, both player and coach, I have to put Felipe Alou's name on the table.
He played when baseball was very different, no steroids, no juiced ball, not a lot of TV, not a lot of $$$, pre-expansion (diluted pitching pool) and no DH.
(I'm Old School.)
He played when baseball was very different, no steroids, no juiced ball, not a lot of TV, not a lot of $$$, pre-expansion (diluted pitching pool) and no DH.
(I'm Old School.)
What would you say are the negatives about Pujol's or do you believe the ball as it is now makes it too easy to hit homeruns?
For me, best pitcher was Pedro.
Best hitter and present player, for me, is Pujols.
Though I do like Cano.
I consider A-rod to be from the US system, so unless the question is open to anyone of Dominican decent, as opposed to having been a part of the Dominican baseball system - then I do not factor A-rod in.
And, I am not old enough to have seen Juan or the older players, so I only know them from stats in the history books.
Best hitter and present player, for me, is Pujols.
Though I do like Cano.
I consider A-rod to be from the US system, so unless the question is open to anyone of Dominican decent, as opposed to having been a part of the Dominican baseball system - then I do not factor A-rod in.
And, I am not old enough to have seen Juan or the older players, so I only know them from stats in the history books.
I think when his career is over Cano can find himself at the top of the list. For know I would say Marichal would have to be considered the best to come out of DR.
Jaun Marichal is the only one in the Hall of Fame, so he is the best by definition. Lots of people, including Peter Gammons, say Pedro Martinez was the most dominate pitcher he has ever seen.
Pujols will be probably the greatest position player of all-time. Cano, could be up there by the end of his career.
ARod is American. He was born in Florida. He speaks English. He never lived in the DR. Why he tried to say he was Dominican for that one World Baseball Classic I do not understand. He never claimed to be Dominican before that came up. Money-wise it probably makes more sense for him to say he is American. In any case, the guy is freaking American not Dominican.
Personally, Manny Ramirez and Moises Alou are probably my favorites. Manny could make the Hall of Fame and so could David Ortiz.
Good input from everyone, if I was a bit older I may say Marichal or the older generation of Alou brothers.
-RK Winters aka Dominican Baseball Guy
Pelota Dominicana
Pujols will be probably the greatest position player of all-time. Cano, could be up there by the end of his career.
ARod is American. He was born in Florida. He speaks English. He never lived in the DR. Why he tried to say he was Dominican for that one World Baseball Classic I do not understand. He never claimed to be Dominican before that came up. Money-wise it probably makes more sense for him to say he is American. In any case, the guy is freaking American not Dominican.
Personally, Manny Ramirez and Moises Alou are probably my favorites. Manny could make the Hall of Fame and so could David Ortiz.
Good input from everyone, if I was a bit older I may say Marichal or the older generation of Alou brothers.
-RK Winters aka Dominican Baseball Guy
Pelota Dominicana
Folks, Pujols is not a product of the Dominican baseball system. He moved to the U.S. at 16, where he developed his skills. The same could be said for Jos? Bautista and Manny Ram?rez.
I sent Peter Gammons an e-mail a few years ago, asking him about his all-time Dominican team. And while I never received an answer, I'm with him when it comes to Pedro being the best Dominican pitcher y, por ende, the best Dominican ballplayer ever.
Yes, Marichal is in the HOF, and some will only use that as a barometer, but that's akin to saying that Montana was better than Marino 'cause the former has more SB rings, while statistically speaking, Marino was more productive.
I sent Peter Gammons an e-mail a few years ago, asking him about his all-time Dominican team. And while I never received an answer, I'm with him when it comes to Pedro being the best Dominican pitcher y, por ende, the best Dominican ballplayer ever.
Yes, Marichal is in the HOF, and some will only use that as a barometer, but that's akin to saying that Montana was better than Marino 'cause the former has more SB rings, while statistically speaking, Marino was more productive.
To play the devels adevakit and soley for the entertaninment factor , MAN RAM ! As for A Rod he went to my high school westminster christon in miami . He also played QB for us . And then backed out on his deal with the CANES, and went for the $$$$ in true dominacken style .
According to what I read Albert started playing when he was 3 in SD because his dad was a well known softball pitcher. I imagine he played baseball consistently until he moved at 16 years old. Scouts I've talked to say a kid needs to have "it" by the are 16 if they are to have a chance in the majors.
Well, in that case we can say the same for A-Rod: after moving from NYC to the DR in '79, he played there as a kid, then moved to Miami a few years later.
And Dominican buscones can say anything they want, but at 16 kids hardly know the game. Yes, they can hit and some even run fast, but they hone their "it" skills starting with the instructional league and the minor system.
And Dominican buscones can say anything they want, but at 16 kids hardly know the game. Yes, they can hit and some even run fast, but they hone their "it" skills starting with the instructional league and the minor system.
With all due respect Jose my friend be honest and tell me if you've ever played baseball?
I ask because if a kid hasn't grown up with baseball and used to seeing pitches thrown at him, very often wild at that, chances are he won't last long if his first time at bat is in front of a pitcher who hit's 80 - especially since a lot of times the kids that get get to this velocity have little control. All it takes is for someone to get beaned and they'll never develop the "eye" needed for seeing pitches.
With regard to pitchers, I was told by reputable scouts in the Major League system that a kid needs to have "it" by the time they are 18 at the latest or no dice.
Maybe we can get the b'ball expert Cleef to chime in.
I ask because if a kid hasn't grown up with baseball and used to seeing pitches thrown at him, very often wild at that, chances are he won't last long if his first time at bat is in front of a pitcher who hit's 80 - especially since a lot of times the kids that get get to this velocity have little control. All it takes is for someone to get beaned and they'll never develop the "eye" needed for seeing pitches.
With regard to pitchers, I was told by reputable scouts in the Major League system that a kid needs to have "it" by the time they are 18 at the latest or no dice.
Maybe we can get the b'ball expert Cleef to chime in.
Nothing against Pujols at all.
But, once again, I'm Old School.
Guys like Alou could hit, run, throw, bunt, steal bases, and play superb defense. Multi-dimensional, excellent at all. For years.
But baseball was different back then. I guess all sports were.
I played baseball in college. Lot's of guys threw in the 80's+. I pitched and could. Well, I think they could; we didn't have radar guns in the early-70's (Tino Martinez is an alumni of the same school, 15 years after me.)
But you couldn't dig in against most of them because of their 5-10% wildness.
Getting hit by a pitch hurt.