BEWARE of Super Keno Scam

[ginger ale]

An "experienced" gambler with $20,000 to spend wouldn't play a dumb-*** game like this nor did he apparently understand the risks. He'd play craps or BJ and at least know the odds and have 1/2 a chance. Or the story is a but exaggerated. Certainyl nothing to brag about.

I wasn?t bragging about it! and the story is not exaggerated, it did happen that way (at the Diamond casino) I agree it was stupid to keep on playing but I don?t care I didn?t lose the money, he did!

 

[Conchman]

update, from DR1 today:

13. Keno legal suit
A US citizen presented a formal suit against Diamond Casino in Santo Domingo. As reported in the Listin Diario today, Carl Leyva Ramos, a CPA and owner of businesses in the US and Puerto Rico, filed his case against the casino alleging he was duped for US$22,000 by the fraudulent maneuvers and influence in the game called Caribbean Keno. The claimant stated that the gambler has no chance of beating the house in this game.
Leyva Ramos disclosed that he was drawn into the game because he was given US$20 to play, but then made use of his credit card, which was charged for the US$22,000 loss. Leyva Ramos is seeking indemnity of RD$100 million.

 

[ricktoronto]

Non-resident lawsuits?

update, from DR1 today:

13. Keno legal suit
A US citizen presented a formal suit against Diamond Casino in Santo Domingo. As reported in the Listin Diario today, Carl Leyva Ramos, a CPA and owner of businesses in the US and Puerto Rico,

I thought you can't sue someone in the DR unless you are a legal resident.

 

[Conchman]

That doesnt sound right, not many foreigners would invest money if this was the case, and a lot of Dominicans would be taking advantage of this! Maybe his lawyer needs to be resident...and I'm sure he/she is.

 

[Dolores1]

I thought you can't sue someone in the DR unless you are a legal resident.

Of course you can sue, but the big deposit that has to be made discourages most foreigners from suing. Yet to be seen if this person will go through with the suit.

 

[ricktoronto]

Same Idea, More or Less

Of course you can sue, but the big deposit that has to be made discourages most foreigners from suing. Yet to be seen if this person will go through with the suit.

I recalled this being a "right" of residency (lawsuit without indemnity) . I presume Keno man will cough up RD$100 Million to secure his claim, sure. Maybe he'll win it at SuperKeno.

 

[A.J.]

I hate to say it but wah wah wah wah.
Any game that looks to good to be true has to be.
This guy needs to contact the one who went to Scores in NYC and racked up 20,000 in lap dance and drinks in one night and now wants to sue and get his money back. Maybe they can start a support group.

 

[arturo]

The game is not new, but it's best to stay away

I am ashamed to say I have little compassion for the victim, especially since he has a professional finance background. Caribbean/Dominican Keno and its variants are not new to the country. This latest victim is one of many of the past few years. The operators have are here because few other countries permit their abusive "game." If anyone doubts that it is foolish to involve yourself, ask yourself why this game and no other gives prospective players a US$20 starter chip. You have been warned.

There is a "new" game in the Dominican Republic called Super Keno (Caribbean Keno or Dominican Keno) that is design excluively to take away your money. There is no way in the world that you could win this game, except if you have unlimited amount of money and then you will had spen more money than the jackpot anyway.

The scam works this way.... an attractive lady will meet you at the door an offer you some free chips to try a "new" game. They target exclusively foreigners --US, Canadians, European...

If you accept the "kind" invitation she will escort you to the Super Keno table. You will notice that tha table is separated from the rest of the Casino and roped off. There a young and good looking gentlemen will greet you and start you off in the game. Once you run out of cash you will be asked if you have a credit card, a Visa or Master Card (They both are aware of the scam but cannot do anything to stop it)... DON'T Give Your credit Card!!!!

The game consist in trying to accumulate 100 points or more to win the jack pot. You bet to take out a small ball (like a ping pong ball) and the dealer will read the ball and tell you what it means (you will not see the number in the ball).

You will reach the high 90 points rather qickly giving you the illusion of winning or been soooo close of winning that you will be ignorant of the doubling bet and how your credit card is been depleated of funds. You will eventually run out of money to bet or won't be able to cover the bet. At that time you will reach out for another credit card or quit.

We have testimonies of dozens of personas whos vacations and honey moons have been ruined due to this game. The losses are betneen $5,000.00 to $20,000.00 (US).

To top it off, the gaming comission of the DR admit that they do not inspect Casino which means that casino operators can do very much as they please.

At this moment there is a law suit filed at a DR court and crminal charges have been filled against the operator of the Diamon Casino and the Melia Hotel. The suit seek to demonstrat that the game is rigged (as all other casino games may be as thete is no supervision whatsoever).

So if you appreciate the hard work it took to earn your money don't give it away to this casino owners. STAY AWAY FROM SUPERKENO AND ANY OTHER CASINO GAME IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC...!!!

IF YOU WISH TO BE KEPT INFORMED OR HAVE BEEN RIP OFF SEND AN EMAIL TO davidmedina@yahoo.com, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU!

 

[arturo]

You were spot on about Senor Elias's US legal status

He is in fact a fugitive from US justice. Hipolito's government refused the Americans' extradition request. The accusations involve money laundering and drug trafficking. Dominican casinos have long been under international law enforcement scrutiny for suspected money laundering with drug ties.

The US Embassy has told us that no one has complaint offically... meaninmg by writing.

Why Master Card cannot do anything? because there is nothing illegal with the transaction per se. They follow the book. The illegality is on the game itself.

Whinning???? Since when trying to help people avoid falling into a trap is whining? After all, I haven't lost a penny in that game and I don't gamble at all. I am not a moralist either, just hate seen people throw away their money, specially whne they are scammed when they trusted that they were having fin and had a real chance of winning (See my comment above this).

It doesn't surprise me that people think is whining. I though the same when it was brought into my attention, that the person was a bad looser and he was whining. But the truth is that the more I investigated the case, the more I realize that their "whining" was justifide because they were scammed and not the case of bad judgement of bad odds.

I wonder why it bother some people that someone is trying to warn other from danger?

ONCE AGAIN, FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT, BEWARE OF CASINOS IN DR AND IN PARTICULAR SUPER KENO

 

[Jimmyshifts]

RIU Palace Casino is a Fruad

Do not stay at the RIU properties. The Casino is a scam. the hotel denies any responsiblity. The Hotel clams that they have never had any complaints. There were many other problems with the stay but being tricked into playing a game that can't be won is worst.

 

[Dolores1]

DR1 - Travel

This has info on the Keno game.

 

[Rocky]

Do not stay at the RIU properties. The Casino is a scam. the hotel denies any responsiblity. The Hotel clams that they have never had any complaints. There were many other problems with the stay but being tricked into playing a game that can't be won is worst.

As per the link posted by Dolores.

To complicate matters, the Keno games in the DR are operated not by the casino itself but by an independent contractor who rents the floor space. And since it's a concession, complaints to casino management might fall on deaf ears. Best to save yourself the trouble and walk on by.

 

[portrushbear]

anyone who hands over their credit card in a casino imo is just mad, rule one, only ever bet what you can afford

i like the occasional game of roulette and will hopefully try one of the dr's casinos but i will have an amount i will be comfortable to stake over the course of a couple of hours, if i win, great if i lose, big deal it wont spoil my holiday

 

[travellor1]

Exchange dollar to RD

Should I exchange the dollar to RD before coming to DR?

I live in the US.

 

[Dolores1]

Change in the DR. You will most likely get a better rate and you can go changing as you need cash.