BUYING Inverter/Inversor

Luperon

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This is a steal at 1000$

XANTREX PROSINE 3.0 SINE WAVE POWER INVERTER 12V BATTERY CHARGER | eBay
 

Luperon

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Sure it is meant for 110 household current. 12v just means you have to set up the trojan 6volt batteries in sets of 2. The thicker the cables the better. No fan hum at all. Pure sine wave.
 

Luperon

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Yes 110 input with 110 output, Yes its an automatic switch.
 

Criss Colon

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Yes it does,THATs the point.
110 comes in to your house,you use THAT 110 just like everyone else to power your house.At the same time,the invertor is taking that 110,dropping the voltage,and continuously charging,re charging,or just maintaining the batteries charge.
NOW,110 from the street stops,the inversor automatically begins to draw power from the charged batteries,changing it to 110 volts,and suppling your needs.
When the 110 from the street returns,the inversor stops producing power,and automatically recharges your batteries,available for the next power failure.
At LEAST in theory!
Remember,this is the DR!
A great electrician is your best friend,especially at 1 am,when you suddenly have no power.
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SKing

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Lolly, let's start all over. Once you have your inverter, what do you expect to run with it? Just lights?

TV? Computer? A/C?

I think you want to do what most folks usually do; either a 1 or 2 kw inverter. You can go name brand, or you can buy a local.

They are usually 12 or 24V. If you buy a 12, you need two batteries; a 24 requires 4 batteries.

A local will be a "bread & butter" simple on/off inverter. Those are cheap, and can be had for 7-10K pesos. Name brand will be more expensive, but they have more bells and whistles, which you won't understand anyway.

With local inverters, you'll hear a low "um-um-um-um" sound out of your ceiling fans when it's working, which is not serious, and can actually be used to determine when the lights return.

If you want to get fancy, buy a "sine wave" inverter, which will not cause that sound, and is generally better for your electronics. Much more expensive, BTW, about 23-25K for a 2KW.

For batteries, get the Red Trojans. Plan on 5K pesos each.

I think you'd be just fine with a 2.2kw 24V inverter and 4 batteries.

So, say roughly 10-12K for the inverter, and 20K for batteries.

Thanks.
I could care less about the low noise with the local brand but you did say that the name brand is better for the electronics and I don't want to damage anything.

Don't get me wrong but I had an Inversor before but I called an Electrician "friend" :) from Sajoma and he bought it and installed it for me, I don't even remember how much it cost but I would've if it had been very expensive. But it must've been cheap because it had a handle that you had to push up when the lights went out. I didn't like that. Fumbling to the kitchen in the dark to push that handle up was a pain and then I would always forget to put it back down when the lights came back on.
Well, I have an idea of the price which is good because until December I'm on a tight budget, I'll definitely refer back her right before I'm gonna buy it.

SHALENA
 

Olly

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Shalena,
Dont forget the most important piece of equipment in the house - The Hair Dryer! an absolutely essential piece of equipment! So the Invertor needs to be sized for all the regular stuff PLUS the Hair Dryer!!!
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Olly
 

donP

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I could care less about the low noise with the local brand but you did say that the name brand is better for the electronics and I don't want to damage anything.

I think, a Trace DR3624 would very well suit your needs.
They are still sold (maybe carry the Xantrex name now).

With this model you can set/ adjust:
- charger rate
- battery capacity
- over discharge protection
- battery type
- search mode for minimum consumption

All easy to understand.

Those features protect your batteries.
The DR3624 does not have a handle either.... :bunny:


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windeguy

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I think, a Trace DR3624 would very well suit your needs.
They are still sold (maybe carry the Xantrex name now).

With this model you can set/ adjust:
- charger rate
- battery capacity
- over discharge protection
- battery type
- search mode for minimum consumption

All easy to understand.

Those features protect your batteries.
The DR3624 does not have a handle either.... :bunny:


donP

Been using a Trace DR3624 for over 6 years now. Works well.
 

dv8

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shalena, i think your house will roughly be the same size as ours and your needs are similar, despite larger group of people. i suggest a bigger inversor - 3.5, for few reasons. you have kids - you need to connect basics like fridge and water pump. we also have computers, all lights and entertainment set to work in with inversor.

but i think you should wire the place so there are few sockets that work with street power only. it is better not to use some stuff with the inversor: water heater, washing machine, dryer, microwave, iron, hair stuff (blower, iron, curler), electric kettle. it is great to have some of this stuff connected permanently to steer power only. we did that so our visitors cannot turn something on and possibly f**k up the inversor.
 

Luperon

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If I remember correct, you earn a good wage and have flat screen tv's . I strongly suggest that you get a sine wave inverter. Sine you are in the USA, you can get it cheaper than in the DR. I carried my xantrex prosine 3.0 on the plane with me.

Dont forget to bring a little Honda or Yamaha generator to run your blow dryer as it will eat thru your batteries real fast and be left without lights. This is the one I got as it was the biggest one that fits in a barrel. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-EF28...ultDomain_0&hash=item3a77a6dfee#ht_540wt_1185 This one is perfect for the DR as it is already converted to tri fuel system.


Thanks.
I could care less about the low noise with the local brand but you did say that the name brand is better for the electronics and I don't want to damage anything.

Don't get me wrong but I had an Inversor before but I called an Electrician "friend" :) from Sajoma and he bought it and installed it for me, I don't even remember how much it cost but I would've if it had been very expensive. But it must've been cheap because it had a handle that you had to push up when the lights went out. I didn't like that. Fumbling to the kitchen in the dark to push that handle up was a pain and then I would always forget to put it back down when the lights came back on.
Well, I have an idea of the price which is good because until December I'm on a tight budget, I'll definitely refer back her right before I'm gonna buy it.

SHALENA
 
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SKing

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Y'all are tripping me with this hair dryer thing. I'm a little different. I have used my hair dryer twice maybe in the last year. I go to the salon once a week. And if I can't get to the salon, I pull it back in a little bun. I have not washed my own hair in years.

Anyway, how can I wire the house for street outlets? I will be renting, can you do that to soneone else's house? Does it involve construction?

I will need the frig on Inversor of course, the lights, and the televisions and computer (there are 6 TVs and 1 desktop computer and 2 laptops), although I do not mind if only the sala TV is hooked to Inversor, we do not need bedroom TVs on Inversor.

So the size is small enough to bring in a suitcase?

SHALENA
 

dv8

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i also do not use hair dryer, in fact i only got one last year and i hardly ever use it. but you may have guests. and god help me, all of my friends were whining like chihuahuas about not being able to style their hair. freaks. :)

the inversor is very heavy, just buy it here. don't over complicate, that's my motto. bringing it over is not worth the hassle. wiring is easy, apparently, because our electrician was able to set all the hookups jiggling wires in the breaker box (or whatever it is called). but since you aid you are gonna be renting why not look for a place with inversor? all problems solved. if you have arranged for a place already just holla at one of the members in santiago, i am sure they will be happy to help you with the actual purchase and find you a decent electrician to set it for you. heck, i would be happy go shopping with a woman like you myself, and i'm a girl! ;)
 

lisagauss

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Guarantee?
From a seller on a flea market page?
In the Dominican Republic?

CC gave a "Like", what is happening?????


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There are plenty of ads for businesses that sell inverters on that site. They sell you a package = inverter + bateries + guarantee for 2 years.
 

Luperon

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Y'all are tripping me with this hair dryer thing. I'm a little different. I have used my hair dryer twice maybe in the last year. I go to the salon once a week. And if I can't get to the salon, I pull it back in a little bun. I have not washed my own hair in years.

Anyway, how can I wire the house for street outlets? I will be renting, can you do that to soneone else's house? Does it involve construction?

I will need the frig on Inversor of course, the lights, and the televisions and computer (there are 6 TVs and 1 desktop computer and 2 laptops), although I do not mind if only the sala TV is hooked to Inversor, we do not need bedroom TVs on Inversor.

So the size is small enough to bring in a suitcase?

SHALENA

Yes the inverter I speak of will fit in a suitcase. If you put the fridge on the inverter it had better be an efficient fridge and you will need extra batteries. I had made the mistake once of putting an old fridge with a broken thermostat on my inverter. No matter what, always keep any unused space in the fridge AND freezer filled with gallons of water, then rotate the ice to the fridge and the water to the freezer. You dont want to do a lot of rewiring in a rented house, but you will have to carefully mark the breakers as to what goes where before you decide about rewiring. A lot will depend on how long your power outages are, where in Santiago is the house?
 

lisagauss

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Could anyone recommend a brand/size + amount of batteries for my home I wish to run,

3 cieling fans
maybe 10-20 CFL light bulbs
1 Fridge
2 Tvs
1 Motor for door
1 Motor for water

I was thinking a 5KVA unit with 4-8 batteries. How about brands? Ive heard of Phase 2, Trace, Blaze, etc. I know I will probably go with Trojan batteries.
 

lisagauss

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I meant don't put the fridge on the inverter. If you keep your fridge full, the stuff inside acts like a cold sink, and keeps cold.

I don't think she'll give up TV for cold food.

But, thinking out loud, if she keeps the Fridge full, it could be on the inverter anyway, since it won't be running much.

I say shoot for a 3kva

3.6Kva might work. Do you recommend any brands? Like I said before, Ive seen brands like Star Energy, Blaze, Phase II.