Canadian killed in Residencial Hispaniola

[Tom0910]

Security in some foreign communities is only part of a scam. Many foreigners do not realize is that they only receive 3-4 security guards who work at any time in more than 100 homes. They pay between $ 200 and $ 250 each house for the cost of security. Administrations then steal around $ 150 of those fees. It's a popular scam, most foreigners have a false sense of security if they knew that the money they spent on security is going into the pockets of administration owners.

Completely untrue of the many gated communities that I have lived in or visited

 

[drstock]

You should give some examples of the ones without administrations pocketing $150 each house. It's a popular tourist scam on the North Coast. It seems like they're all doing it. You won't see those sort of scam in Santiago, Puerto Plata City, Santo Domingo or Punta Cana. It is unique so it's definitely true.

Procab

 

[Tom0910]

You should give some examples of the ones without administrations pocketing $150 each house. It's a popular tourist scam on the North Coast. It seems like they're all doing it. You won't see those sort of scam in Santiago, Puerto Plata City, Santo Domingo or Punta Cana. It is unique so it's definitely true.

Seeing as you started by saying that administrations are "pocketing" money from the HOA fees,please tell me which communities that you have access to their books,otherwise you are full of caca because there is no way of making that statement truthfully without proof of seeing the accounting of the money being spent or otherwise. I have lived and visited many gated communities and my response to you was in respects to your statemnt that there are only 3 or 4 guards per 100 homes which is totally wrong,Casa Linda,Sea Horse ranch are examples that I have personally witnessed to your statement being wrong.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Seeing as you started by saying that administrations are "pocketing" money from the HOA fees,please tell me which communities that you have access to their books,otherwise you are full of caca because there is no way of making that statement truthfully without proof of seeing the accounting of the money being spent or otherwise. I have lived and visited many gated communities and my response to you was in respects to your statemnt that there are only 3 or 4 guards per 100 homes which is totally wrong,Casa Linda,Sea Horse ranch are examples that I have personally witnessed to your statement being wrong.

There exists no clean business in this country. I'm sorry you may be sad about this with all your experience Tom90210, but you are sleeping. You are fast asleep.

 

[George101]

Seeing as you started by saying that administrations are "pocketing" money from the HOA fees,please tell me which communities that you have access to their books,otherwise you are full of caca because there is no way of making that statement truthfully without proof of seeing the accounting of the money being spent or otherwise. I have lived and visited many gated communities and my response to you was in respects to your statemnt that there are only 3 or 4 guards per 100 homes which is totally wrong,Casa Linda,Sea Horse ranch are examples that I have personally witnessed to your statement being wrong.

Sea Horse Ranch is a good example of a properly managed community. Casa Linda, on the other hand, is known for having one of the worst administrations in the Dominican Republic and exploiting the elderly

 

[ctrob]

Making a profit is NOT criminal. It's not "pocketing" funds. It's THEIR money! The developer is not "skimming" money. The money belongs to them because they're making a profit. And you better hope they're making a profit. Because if they aren't, then that unexpected water main leak doesn't get fixed right away, that genset doesn't fire right up at the next electrical outage because of lack of maintenance, and on and on.

I have a phrase for when I hear people whining about somebody making a profit - I call it "socialism creep". Nobody's supposed to make any profit.
Because it's evil. And the whining usually comes from people who have never had to struggle to make a payroll.

 

[malko]

Making a profit is NOT criminal. It's not "pocketing" funds. It's THEIR money! The developer is not "skimming" money. The money belongs to them because they're making a profit. And you better hope they're making a profit. Because if they aren't, then that unexpected water main leak doesn't get fixed right away, that genset doesn't fire right up at the next electrical outage because of lack of maintenance, and on and on.

I have a phrase for when I hear people whining about somebody making a profit - I call it "socialism creep". Nobody's supposed to make any profit.
Because it's evil. And the whining usually comes from people who have never had to struggle to make a payroll.

Why would repairing a broken water line be fixed with money allocated to the line " security " ?.........

 

[ctrob]

There is nothing legal about an HOA or Administration providing the equivalent of $50 USD worth of security service and charging $200 USD simply because the elderly in these communities are easy prey or foreigners who don't know that difference between a $50 security service and a $200 security service.

Your math is way off. The monthly HOA fee is not only for "Security".

The HOA fee in a gated community funds the garbage pick up, road maintenance, common area maintenance, water delivery, common area lights, landscaping of common areas, administration, security and more. It takes money to do all those things. Sure, the developer makes a profit on the sale of a house, but the cost of maintaining a gated community goes on forever. An HOA fee covers those costs that go on forever. It's perfectly legal and justified. But you want it provided for free?

I have a house in a small US town. I pay taxes. Guess what those taxes pay for? Garbage pick up, road lighting, administration, parks, water delivery, and police. Just like a gated community, right?

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

There is nothing legal about an HOA or Administration providing the equivalent of $50 USD worth of security service and charging $200 USD simply because the elderly in these communities are easy prey or foreigners who don't know that difference between a $50 security service and a $200 security service. Theft is criminal and the operaters of these communities are professional money launderers. Owners In those communities will never see that money again. It's easy for these communities like Hispaniola and Casa Linda to use the security funds they steal to pay off people to keep things from becoming known. People get killed In these communities in a regular basis, you should don't hear about it.

Nice. Right on.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Nice. Right on.

I would just add that, whereas the difference may not be going to said "hush" funds, it certainly is a common scam. It doesn't matter if the fees went for garbage or security. If there's no itemized bill then assume at best 1/2 makes it for the intended destination. And even with itemized bills, these cannot be held up to the light for any validity.

 

[westcan]

People get killed In these communities in a regular basis, you should don't hear about it.

so on how much of a regular basis are people getting killed at Residencial Hispaniola? And, how is it you know about it?

 

[ctrob]

Way too much, you only hear about if someone leaks the information.

You shouldn't be denigrating a local business unless you have facts. And you have none.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

You shouldn't be denigrating a local business unless you have facts. And you have none.

Does seem like a bold statement. Bribes and skimming are one thing, but...

 

[user123]

I don't know about Residencial Hispaniola, I would assume it's the same, but I personally know one of the main administrators at Casa Linda and I can tell you there is a loooooooot of skimming going on over there. A lot.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

It is definitely true. People come to the Dominican Republic because it's cheaper but end up becoming victims of the casa Linda tourist scam.

Casa Linda? When I got inside and saw a few places the cookie cutter, tasteless coralina tile which they push like a next thing since sliced bread. CL2 is a tarantula wasteland. Bachelor parties and whores always nice if you have kids. Shell out over 300K for a modest ranch. Sosua? For 300K you can get a lovely home in Madison NJ and it's beautiful up there. The mgmt can tell buyers anything and they have no baseline. 25 dollars for a tuna sandwich, yeah that's about right

 

[irishpaddy]

Yes, another murder. Yet the expat community generously feeds them and their families during this epidemic. Expats are always the first to rescue the locals in times of despair. Raising money for food, house repairs and furniture. Yet the murders and extortion continue and we sit back and let it happen.

so blame the whole Dominican people for the action of a few thugs

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

so blame the whole Dominican people for the action of a few thugs

It's deeper than that. These people come here and feel the poor Dominicans need them to save their lives. The thing about charity is it's self interest disguised as altruism. It's BS and it all comes out as soon as the shite hits the fan like in Seamonkey's post. Then it's all thrown in their faces. It's an ego-driven, self interested freak show all the "charity" ops here. It always comes down to look how great I am.

 

[CristoRey]

It's deeper than that. These people come here and feel the poor Dominicans need them to save their lives. The thing about charity is it's self interest disguised as altruism. It's BS and it all comes out as soon as the shite hits the fan like in Seamonkey's post. Then it's all thrown in their faces. It's an ego-driven, self interested freak show all the "charity" ops here. It always comes down to look how great I am.

Same way I feel about NGOs.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Same way I feel about NGOs.

Yes same $hit, different package, although NGOs make good RICO

 

[NanSanPedro]

It's deeper than that. These people come here and feel the poor Dominicans need them to save their lives. The thing about charity is it's self interest disguised as altruism. It's BS and it all comes out as soon as the shite hits the fan like in Seamonkey's post. Then it's all thrown in their faces. It's an ego-driven, self interested freak show all the "charity" ops here. It always comes down to look how great I am.

Please keep posting.