dinner is fine -- but perhaps we had best stay off that particular topic, ok?
oh maybe or just a small explanation jaja
dinner is fine -- but perhaps we had best stay off that particular topic, ok?
According to DemocracyNow.org, the Clinton plan for Haiti is large Korean-run free zones. Kind of like gated communities for the poor where they get to work for peanuts. This would have horrible implications for the agricultural economy of Haiti and would probably impact the DR, since Haitian free zones would no doubt be cheaper.
Heil America! Haiti?s Redemption?
A failed former power currently in The Greatest DEPRESSION which engineered the global economic implosion starting with the subprime lending and continuing with the bankster bailouts and TARP crap. Currently 1.5 TRILLION deficit, 20% unemployment (official stats do not include those not applying for benefits which have already run out).
BP eco-armageddon -- it it LEAKING again despite the cap -- methane levels in the ocean have increased 1000% inducing hypoxia (lack of oxygen) which will destroy all marine life -- not to mention that the neurotoxin being dispersed in the ocean --COrEXIT -- is a banned poison in the UK. Did I mention that the surrounding sea floor is beginning to buckle?
And America is gonna save Haiti? Just like Katrina, eh? Just like it saved Iraq and Afghanistan? Committing genocide on fictitious enemies to pillage and plunder their valuable oil and mineral deposits.
Yes this is on topic. Before you generals dictate how the world should rotate and hang your soiled flag in yet another foreign occupation -- fix your own pathetic failed country.
Tell the Haitians "you do not get your country back until you prove you can handle it.
I would really recommend that you not get your Haiti news from Amy Goodman -- who is an avid supporter of Aristide...I used to be a great fan - thinking that there were some great stories that were not reported in the mainstream press - but on Haiti, Ms Goodman appears to have a very narrow band.
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Charlie Rose comes through once again with this interesting interview with Sean Penn. Hulu - Charlie Rose: Actor Sean Penn On His Work in Haiti - Watch the full episode now.
2010-07-12
It is important to ensure that Canada's support is provided responsibly. The accountability expected by Canadians means that their support is spent wisely and achieve the results we believe that the people of Haiti deserve.
this is only available in the US - we cannot see it here in the DR.
I have great admiration for Sean Penn and how he is putting himself out for Haiti. Some report have it that he has essentially moved there.
And we will be able to watch him watch the continuing disaster unfold - his growing and amazed frustration with both aid work and the Haitian government - and his awe at the strength of the Haitian people.
Anyway - if there is a link to a transcript, Ron, please post it. And thanks for keeping another candle lit.
It is pouring rain here today in SD and I am sure that there are millions of people here who are thinking about all the Haitians who will be flooded out. Grace a Dieu, this is not a hurricane and the winds are light.
Mountainannie
Do you know of any programs where the money goes directly to the individuals in need?
You think it cannot be done in the short term?
Wrong!
I did it before and I am doing it again.
Little old me - and I am not especially talented.
I am even having fun doing it.
Your reasons for not doing it as mentioned above are all just excuses for not doing it.
If one cannot do it with the help of the civil society then do it in spite of them.
My point is that if you wait for a change in Haiti then you will be waiting a long time.
As I said before - Haiti is the most stable country in the world - nothing has changed here in 200 years!!!
As for the Somalia comment - not relevant - there is no war here!
Never forget that.
Pedro, I don't know what you have been smoking as of lately but whatever it is, please put it down boy!
Are you insane?!?! Haiti has not known what the meaning of "stability" refers to since 1804...
Let me give ya' all a brief history of what Haiti is and still remains today:
Haiti pre-1804:
A very, very, very profitable French owned territory (since it never was to be a colony itself) that was called Saint Domingue (as to differentiate the already established Spanish colony to the east "Santo Domingo" from their holdings), whose "richness" and "pearl of the Antilles" value was based on nothing more than the most cruel and cost effective slave-labored industry known at the time.
For the French masters, unlike those same type of masters across the sea in the former English colonies, the use of slaves was nothing more than another type of instrument at their disposal to exploit. Exploit it they did, with unmatched cost effectiveness and savagery, unknown to slave-run industries at the time.
The French system in Saint Domingue consisted of using the freshly bought blacks from the African horn, to work the fields/farms until their death. They found out how much (or little as it was the case) was needed to keep them alive for about a year, providing the least quantity of nutrition possible (to save on costs deferred to sustaining the labor force in place) and working for the longest hours per day the body could resist. They found the right levels to that formula by trial and error, which meant a lot of tests subjects biting their tongues in order to escape their hell on earth. After the French instituted the iron tongues (which first was thought to be a device for punishment, as it heated on the part facing the Caribbean Sun as they worked the fields with them on) on the selected test subjects, they got the formula they wanted.
That's to say that slaves were classified on arrival onto what they would be employed on, which labor intensive placements were allotted to which groups and what lesser efforts needed for others.
They used even pregnant women in different stages into their pregnancies and variables of workloads, to find out how long and what it was going to take, in order to get maximum yield per slave number bought.
Formula in hands, the French instituted one of the most formidable slave-run industries in the world then. The ouput was never matched by any other slave master in the world, which served the powerful superpowers of the era.
Haiti's wealth was nothing more than the slave themselves, working Sun up till there was a hint of twilight or Moon streaks on the horizon. Slaves rejoiced when bad weather came about and spoiled the days, making that pure torture last only so long for that short period.
After the slave revolt, Haiti became a free nation. Born out of rejection of the slave masters, whites, and forced labor. The birth of the nation also did away with 99% of the wealth it was estimated to have at the time, both for the colonial powers and for the region.
Since it was born out of rejection to all those mentioned, Haitians didn't allow for being willingly placed on the land, under any pretext.
People went their own ways, forming clans (just like they were when kidnapped into slavery in Africa) and communities that supported each other. Still today that system is present in many remote areas of the country.
The real wish of those first Haitians was to return home to Africa. Their lack of education/world knowledge made them unable to even find the continent, let alone the town they came from in Africa. No large ships or any of sea worthiness, in order to transverse the large ocean to speak off.
Faced with the reality of not being able to ever go back, they settled for good and made the best of it, each to its own clan/community.
Haiti was a divided country on birth and still remains a divided country to this day, for the same reason it came to be: Rejection!
Give 100% of Haitians an option to live elsewhere but with the condition to never return there, 99.99% would opt for leaving (pre-quake). Give Haitians (after-quake) the same option and the number would be more like 99.9999999999, etc...
Haiti is the country that never was supposed to be, let alone still remain today. Each nation under the Sun today, no matter how poor/wealthy, should open a slot to receive and award citizens from Haiti a home for good.
That's the ONLY way to right the wrong left behind after 200 years by the French. That's the only way to eliminate this sorry excuse for a country we have in the western Hemisphere today, in the doorstep of the 21st century.
Tainos were assimilated into the colonos in Santo Domingo, they never left home. Hispaniola should go back to being a one nation island with a mixed race, as it is and was since the first few years of conquest and colonization.
Anything built in Haiti will not last the times of havoc and unrest, sure to come again in the near future. We are seeing a calmness brought over under the shadow of UN guns. The question is how long the UN troops will be able to keep from firing into the crowds or flee the sea of rushing people, before the situation changes in a country that hasn't changed much since it was born in 1804.
Tainos were assimilated into the colonos in Santo Domingo, they never left home. Hispaniola should go back to being a one nation island with a mixed race, as it is and was since the first few years of conquest and colonization.
Pedro, I don't know what you have been smoking as of lately but whatever it is, please put it down boy!
Are you insane?!?! Haiti has not known what the meaning of "stability" refers to since 1804...
Let me give ya' all a brief history of what Haiti is and still remains today:
Haiti pre-1804:
A very, very, very profitable French owned territory (since it never was to be a colony itself) that was called Saint Domingue (as to differentiate the already established Spanish colony to the east "Santo Domingo" from their holdings), whose "richness" and "pearl of the Antilles" value was based on nothing more than the most cruel and cost effective slave-labored industry known at the time.
For the French masters, unlike those same type of masters across the sea in the former English colonies, the use of slaves was nothing more than another type of instrument at their disposal to exploit. Exploit it they did, with unmatched cost effectiveness and savagery, unknown to slave-run industries at the time.
The French system in Saint Domingue consisted of using the freshly bought blacks from the African horn, to work the fields/farms until their death. They found out how much (or little as it was the case) was needed to keep them alive for about a year, providing the least quantity of nutrition possible (to save on costs deferred to sustaining the labor force in place) and working for the longest hours per day the body could resist. They found the right levels to that formula by trial and error, which meant a lot of tests subjects biting their tongues in order to escape their hell on earth. After the French instituted the iron tongues (which first was thought to be a device for punishment, as it heated on the part facing the Caribbean Sun as they worked the fields with them on) on the selected test subjects, they got the formula they wanted.
That's to say that slaves were classified on arrival onto what they would be employed on, which labor intensive placements were allotted to which groups and what lesser efforts needed for others.
They used even pregnant women in different stages into their pregnancies and variables of workloads, to find out how long and what it was going to take, in order to get maximum yield per slave number bought.
Formula in hands, the French instituted one of the most formidable slave-run industries in the world then. The ouput was never matched by any other slave master in the world, which served the powerful superpowers of the era.
Haiti's wealth was nothing more than the slave themselves, working Sun up till there was a hint of twilight or Moon streaks on the horizon. Slaves rejoiced when bad weather came about and spoiled the days, making that pure torture last only so long for that short period.
After the slave revolt, Haiti became a free nation. Born out of rejection of the slave masters, whites, and forced labor. The birth of the nation also did away with 99% of the wealth it was estimated to have at the time, both for the colonial powers and for the region.
Since it was born out of rejection to all those mentioned, Haitians didn't allow for being willingly placed on the land, under any pretext.
People went their own ways, forming clans (just like they were when kidnapped into slavery in Africa) and communities that supported each other. Still today that system is present in many remote areas of the country.
The real wish of those first Haitians was to return home to Africa. Their lack of education/world knowledge made them unable to even find the continent, let alone the town they came from in Africa. No large ships or any of sea worthiness, in order to transverse the large ocean to speak off.
Faced with the reality of not being able to ever go back, they settled for good and made the best of it, each to its own clan/community.
Haiti was a divided country on birth and still remains a divided country to this day, for the same reason it came to be: Rejection!
Give 100% of Haitians an option to live elsewhere but with the condition to never return there, 99.99% would opt for leaving (pre-quake). Give Haitians (after-quake) the same option and the number would be more like 99.9999999999, etc...
Haiti is the country that never was supposed to be, let alone still remain today. Each nation under the Sun today, no matter how poor/wealthy, should open a slot to receive and award citizens from Haiti a home for good.
That's the ONLY way to right the wrong left behind after 200 years by the French. That's the only way to eliminate this sorry excuse for a country we have in the western Hemisphere today, in the doorstep of the 21st century.
Tainos were assimilated into the colonos in Santo Domingo, they never left home. Hispaniola should go back to being a one nation island with a mixed race, as it is and was since the first few years of conquest and colonization.
Anything built in Haiti will not last the times of havoc and unrest, sure to come again in the near future. We are seeing a calmness brought over under the shadow of UN guns. The question is how long the UN troops will be able to keep from firing into the crowds or flee the sea of rushing people, before the situation changes in a country that hasn't changed much since it was born in 1804.