Chicago Dominicans

m65swede

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I am curious about the census numbers

Where did they get those numbers? I live about 2 hours south of Chicago and don't recall my wife ever being asked about being Dominican. Nor our 3 half-Dominican children. We moved back to Illinois in 1988.

I have met a few Dominicans by chance, including a young guy in Kankakee and a pair of sisters who operate a small bodega and diner in Bloomington.

Swede
 

deelt

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Likewise, thanks for your colorful response, although it does come a little late. You really needed to review the posts before responding to mine. Why? Because I you obviously were not quoting me on some of the issues you cite (as being mine) AND it's clear you did not understand what I was saying because you took many other things out of context. In one sentence you try to disparage what I said and in another you acknowledge what I say as truth, it does get a bit confusing to see where you stand other than..."don't talk about MY CITY...its not YOURS! (with a dramatic tantrum stomp and full crossing of arms)."

While Chicago is "your city" I have lived there for years as well so I know what I experienced. You are right about one thing. I don't need to go to Harvard or read a H Paper to hear about Chicago's history of segregation and it being impetus of why this country even has anti-redlining laws....you can actually go to ANY SCHOOL and get that information.

Never said Humbolt Park was scary. In terms of real estate prices, yes I know. A friend of mine just finished buying. Actually if you read my previous response you'll see that I allude to this new trend...its called GENTRIFICATION. So any quote regarding to multi-ethnic diversity is refering to this. Another point you are correct about. My literary sources are fine. 'nuf said

Never said there were only 1610 Dominicans in Chicago. That was Don Thomas in post 10. My post was number 12.

Never said there was a higher concentration of Dominicans in Chicago than in NYC. What I in fact WROTE IN ANOTHER POST was that Dominicans for the most part are organized compared to other similar sized locations. I've travelled most of the states were Dominicans are present in significant concentration (greater than 100) and I can tell you (both as a researcher and as a layperson) that this is in fact the case.

Another thing we agree on is that you were a fool to responds so impolitely because I was just trying to educate. But hey if going to a Dominican Restaurant off the Blue line means me coming across people like you then I'll rather eat some collar greens at Houston's anyday. I'll take care of people who really take care to care.

PEACE

CubsBrs1 said:
Thanks Deet, but I don?t need a Harvard study to tell me about my city. You?re very hung up on Chicago being a segregated city. While you?re busy thumbing through your references, I?ll tell you how it really is. And I?m sorry Kenosha Chris, Humboldt Park? Scary? My word, have you seen real estate prices there recently? It?s sketchy in some areas, yes, but overall it?s a great area and it?s diversity is what is actually attracting people there. Yes, the poor will eventually have to move out. That is an old story, and it happens everywhere in the world.

I completely forgot about this thread but for some reason thought about it today. It's clear that you are well read on the subject of urban planning, and I'm sure that your textbooks tell you quite a bit about the history of Chicago and its segregation. However, textbooks are textbooks, real life is real life. Chicago is racially segregated, but hardly more than any other town, suburb, or what have you. Here, I?ll even quote one of your fine literary sources, ?Given population increases by several different minority groups, the growth of multi-ethnic neighborhoods is notable, particularly in the suburbs, where the number of such Census tracts increased by 250 percent (from 38 to 96) in just ten years.?

You?re also trying to tell me that there are 1610 Dominicans in Chicago, and therefore there is a higher percentage of Dominicans here than in NYC? Are you insane? Washington Heights? Ever hear of it? Believe me, I wish there were more Dominicans here, I would eat Dominican food almost every night if I could. And the music would much more interesting. We could use some bachata to break up the monotony.

This quote, however, takes the cake: ?The dynamic of all inner cities is that the more expensive land is dominated by the lower-income folks.? Gosh, and this whole time I thought higher income people lived on more expensive land. What a fool I was.

Deet, we are segregated here, but my neighborhood is dominated by mixed races, religions, incomes, hetero, homosexual, homeless, mansions, dogs, cats, rats, and everything else. Some neighborhoods are like this, and some aren?t, it depends on where you go. We're all Chicagoans, and more than any other large city I've ever been in, we try to take care of our own.

Again, does anyone know of one true Dominican restaurant in Chicago? I would greatly appreciate any leads.
 

deelt

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There is usually several annual Dominican gatherings in Chicago. If you tap into them I am sure you will be able to come across a very closely knit DR community.

m65swede said:
Where did they get those numbers? I live about 2 hours south of Chicago and don't recall my wife ever being asked about being Dominican. Nor our 3 half-Dominican children. We moved back to Illinois in 1988.

I have met a few Dominicans by chance, including a young guy in Kankakee and a pair of sisters who operate a small bodega and diner in Bloomington.

Swede
 

deelt

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I used to go to Caribana religiously before. Dominicans turn out from ALL across the country not just Chi-town. Mostly coming from NY/NJ as far down as DC.

BrasdeLait said:
you can't be serious? 1500 dominicans in chicago?i crossed paths with 20,000 here in montreal at the dominican merengue festival last week. 99% were surley lively here.

check your nbrs. that can't be correct. the home of sammy sosa? por favor! say it ain't so, sam.
 

m65swede

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I think you missed my point

deelt said:
www.census.gov
There is usually several annual Dominican gatherings in Chicago. If you tap into them I am sure you will be able to come across a very closely knit DR community.


I mistrust all such US Census numbers. My point is that the US Census has never asked if my wife (born and raised in the DR) was Dominican. Nor our 3 adult children for that matter. It appears that my family members were excluded from the count; I'm sure there were many other exclusions as well.

We were married in the DR and then we moved to the US more than 30 years ago. Maybe they only counted Dominicans who recently immigrated.

Swede
 

deelt

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What are you talking about??? The Census only comes around every 10 years. The Census is something that is understood. It's not like they are doing you a favor. If you live in a legitimate address you were sent a piece of paper to fill out. If you throw that piece of paper away the Census (granted if you live in a reasonably safe neighborhood meaning you are not ducking bullets to walk in) someone will make several attempts to come to your door to gain this information (in the paranthetic case a reasonable guess-estimate is used). The incentive for the worker is that they are paid v. well to do their jobs.

While the coordination efforts of 1980 and 1990 could have been better, the outreach done in 2000 was EXCELLENT. I remember these pieces of paper because I filled them out. If your wife and children chose not to be counted then that is really their loss. Don't you remember all commercials, posters, even the churches/community orgs getting mail to announce to the congregations that it was ok for ALL people to fill them out! Geez! During census time you must be blind, deaf, or dumb not to know what's going on. At the end of the day, you have to make it enough of your business TO CARE to pay attention and look out.

Regarding the matter of being asked whether you were Dominican or not. That has been part of every census in the last 30 years. The last Census changed the wording, but the question of country of origination was asked nonetheless. Also, a randomly selected sample of the population also receive an even extended version of the questionnaire that goes into even 2nd and 3rd generation. I know people who receive both regular and extended versions.

The census is a double edge sword. If you self-select yourself not to be counted then you lose out on the benefits it can bring you/your community in terms of services.

In my opinion, you mistrust is misplaced....check your garbage can.

m65swede said:
I mistrust all such US Census numbers. My point is that the US Census has never asked if my wife (born and raised in the DR) was Dominican. Nor our 3 adult children for that matter. It appears that my family members were excluded from the count; I'm sure there were many other exclusions as well.

We were married in the DR and then we moved to the US more than 30 years ago. Maybe they only counted Dominicans who recently immigrated.

Swede
 
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William-SAJOMA

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The are alot of Dominicans in Chicago, by Humboldt Park. There use to be a Dominican store that sold Dominican products, but it didn't stay open for long. I don't know what happened because they where always busy when I went in there.
 

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sachamay said:
Hi,

I know of two ladies here who do my hair. One is Milady's in Western Ave (south side) 773-376-0187 and Lucia in Melrose Park (i can get you her number later).

There is also another Dominican Salon in Chicago on Armitage by Kimball.
Its called Salon Santo Domingo.
 

deelt

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This is the only information I have.

Dominican American Midwest Association
1826 N. Elston Avenue,
Chicago, IL 60622
Tel (773) 384-2021
Fax (773) 384-2095
Dr. Rafael N??ez (President

William-SAJOMA said:
Does DAMA have a website?
 

khamari

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Bachata Band in Chicago

This is off topic, but if anyone in Chicago is interested, there will be a Dominican Band, Chucky Santos and band, playing in Humboldt Park Sunday, 18 Sep, as part of the World Music Festival. Also, there is a local bachata band that plays around Chicago, Mateo y los Bachateros. They are actually pretty good. I heard them at Viva Chicago Latin Music fest a couple of weeks ago. The next time that I know they will be playing is Oct 5, in conjunction with the Old Town School of Folk Music. They have a website also, but it is still in development,
Mateo y los Bachateros
K
 

machuca

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dominican hair salons

someone mentioned milady's and lucia, the milady's salon hasn't gotten back to me. is that the right number? do you have the number for lucia
 

jonny_pagan

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A little comment

khamari said:
This is off topic, but if anyone in Chicago is interested, there will be a Dominican Band, Chucky Santos and band, playing in Humboldt Park Sunday, 18 Sep, as part of the World Music Festival. Also, there is a local bachata band that plays around Chicago, Mateo y los Bachateros. They are actually pretty good. I heard them at Viva Chicago Latin Music fest a couple of weeks ago. The next time that I know they will be playing is Oct 5, in conjunction with the Old Town School of Folk Music. They have a website also, but it is still in development,
Mateo y los Bachateros
K
Hi! I'm from NY and I've had the opportunity of see to many merengue & bachata performers on stage. I was attending the puertorican festival at humbold park a couple of weeks ago when mateo y bachateros were in action. in my opinion and that of other people that agreed with me mateo y bachateros aren't the best but do neither sound badly as a musical group, but
the singers!!... My God!! they're the worse bachata's singers I ever have listened!!!
 

khamari

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At least it is Bachata!

Hi! I'm from NY and I've had the opportunity of see to many merengue & bachata performers on stage. I was attending the puertorican festival at humbold park a couple of weeks ago when mateo y bachateros were in action. in my opinion and that of other people that agreed with me mateo y bachateros aren't the best but do neither sound badly as a musical group, but
the singers!!... My God!! they're the worse bachata's singers I ever have listened!!!

Really? I wonder if they have the same singers. I thought one of them sounded like Alexandra from Monchy and.... Well as stated, at least it is live Bachata in Chicago. There's not much of that.
 

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Alan_Hudson

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International Medical School in Dominican Republic

There is current news that a new International offshore Medical School is coming up in Dominican Republic to help the Dominicans decedents in US.
If any one knows about the website please inform us.Regards