China Wants To Improve It's Vaccine Before Giving To Chinese

[playacaribe2]

The Chinese are already giving it to their people - 167 million so far according to this source:

COVID-19: Why is China's vaccination rate so low? – DW – 04/13/2021

China's vaccine rollout has gotten off to a slow start. Now, as Beijing tries to boost vaccination rates across the country, citizens are having doubts about the safety and efficacy of the available inoculations.

www.dw.com

And as the article points out, the Chinese people are dubious, and rightfully so, of both the vaccine's safety and efficacy.


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[NanSanPedro]

And as the article points out, the Chinese people are dubious, and rightfully so, of both the vaccine's safety and efficacy.


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Playacaribe2

Hmmmm, is being dubious permitted there?

 

[cavok]

And as the article points out, the Chinese people are dubious, and rightfully so, of both the vaccine's safety and efficacy.


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Playacaribe2

People in every country are dubious of the vaccines regardless of which company makes them. Efficacy is a pretty much meaningless metric.

 

[playacaribe2]

Efficacy is a pretty much meaningless metric.

Agreed.

And it certainly is meaningless............if the Chinese government put it out............which is why so many who are waiting and reluctant in China to take the vaccine............fail to understand those people who blindly followed the "best vaccine you can get...........is the one you can get" crowd logic.


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[cavok]

Agreed.

And it certainly is meaningless............if the Chinese government put it out............which is why so many who are waiting and reluctant in China to take the vaccine............fail to understand those people who blindly followed the "best vaccine you can get...........is the one you can get" crowd logic.


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Playacaribe2

Actually, until the recent post by the equivalent of the CDC in China, I have never seen any efficacy numbers from the Chinese. The efficacy numbers were published as a result of trials in Brazil, Turkey, and Indonesia(others?)

 

[playacaribe2]

Actually, until the recent post by the equivalent of the CDC in China, I have never seen any efficacy numbers from the Chinese. The efficacy numbers were published as a result of trials in Brazil, Turkey, and Indonesia(others?)

And those efficacy numbers often disagree from one day to the next........to wit;

Sinovac vaccine 78% effective in Brazil trial, experts call for more details

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was 78% effective in a late-stage Brazilian trial with no severe COVID-19 cases, researchers said on Thursday, although a lack of data details stirred calls for more transparency.

www.reuters.com

New Brazil data shows disappointing 50.4% efficacy for China's CoronaVac vaccine

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was just 50.4% effective at preventing symptomatic infections in a Brazilian trial, researchers said on Tuesday, barely enough for regulatory approval and well below the rate announced last week.

www.reuters.com

Which is exactly why I concur with you..............that they are really meaningless. So if that is the case, what are people basing their decisions to take the vaccine(s) on since there really have been no thorough studies done on efficacy or safety to get full approval..........only emergency use authorizations.


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[USA DOC]

And as the article points out, the Chinese people are dubious, and rightfully so, of both the vaccine's safety and efficacy.


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Playacaribe2

China with going on one and a half Billion people.....thats a lot of Dubiousness.........

 

[zoomzx11]

Largely due to progressives being in charge of the school system and media. Now that there is a progressive government in power it will only get worse.

Is Sinovac your vaccine, Bob?

 

[zoomzx11]

Next in the vaccine line up will be boosters.

Should be easy to boost up the Sinovac.
Can the developers mix the Covid vaccine and the annual flu shot in one?

 

[cavok]

And those efficacy numbers often disagree from one day to the next........to wit;

Sinovac vaccine 78% effective in Brazil trial, experts call for more details

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was 78% effective in a late-stage Brazilian trial with no severe COVID-19 cases, researchers said on Thursday, although a lack of data details stirred calls for more transparency.

www.reuters.com

New Brazil data shows disappointing 50.4% efficacy for China's CoronaVac vaccine

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was just 50.4% effective at preventing symptomatic infections in a Brazilian trial, researchers said on Tuesday, barely enough for regulatory approval and well below the rate announced last week.

www.reuters.com

Which is exactly why I concur with you..............that they are really meaningless. So if that is the case, what are people basing their decisions to take the vaccine(s) on since there really have been no thorough studies done on efficacy or safety to get full approval..........only emergency use authorizations.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

At this point, I think one has to compare possible risks to benefits based on actual reports and news. It's easy to come to different conclusions.

 

[reilleyp]

And those efficacy numbers often disagree from one day to the next........to wit;

Sinovac vaccine 78% effective in Brazil trial, experts call for more details

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was 78% effective in a late-stage Brazilian trial with no severe COVID-19 cases, researchers said on Thursday, although a lack of data details stirred calls for more transparency.

www.reuters.com

New Brazil data shows disappointing 50.4% efficacy for China's CoronaVac vaccine

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech was just 50.4% effective at preventing symptomatic infections in a Brazilian trial, researchers said on Tuesday, barely enough for regulatory approval and well below the rate announced last week.

www.reuters.com

Which is exactly why I concur with you..............that they are really meaningless. So if that is the case, what are people basing their decisions to take the vaccine(s) on since there really have been no thorough studies done on efficacy or safety to get full approval..........only emergency use authorizations.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2

The end result of Common Core Math.

 

[bob saunders]

Is Sinovac your vaccine, Bob?

not by choice but by necessity.

 

[XTraveller]

One of our teachers tested positive yesterday, and she had her first shot of Sinovac 26 days ago.

Thanks Bob this is the kind of first hand news I am hoping for from DR1.Can you tell us more......is she seriously ill? Approximate age?

 

[william webster]

Another study... 10M people this time

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-04-16/chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-67-effective-in-preventing-symptomatic-infection-chile-govt-report

 

[bob saunders]

Thanks Bob this is the kind of first hand news I am hoping for from DR1.Can you tell us more......is she seriously ill? Approximate age?

She said she feels the same as a bad cold, definitely a raspy voice. She is at home. 26 and very fit, non smoker and non drinker. Just got married to a Dominican guy that lives in the USA so probably the small wedding gathering is where she caught it.

 

[SKY]

No vaccine of any kind or disease can stop ALL infections. The point of getting the vaccine is not to have any serious effects if you do get it. And so far all of the vaccines out there and Sinovac included are doing just that.

And in the DR Sinovac is doing even better than just that.

 

[playacaribe2]

At this point, I think one has to compare possible risks to benefits based on actual reports and news. It's easy to come to different conclusions.

And concurring again with you, one does have to compare/weigh the risks and rewards on actual reports and news. But therein lies the problem. Whose data and whose news is to believed.

Given China's prior track record regarding the data/news on the virus, with conflicting efficacy reports seemingly almost daily, no independent long term studies on its safety. it is an easy decision for me personally to make. Others may come to a different conclusion.

But the most absurd statement made to date has been "the best vaccine you can get.....is the one you can get."


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Playacaribe2

 

[william webster]

You're pointing the finger at some of the highest disease officials in the world when you say that.

But the most absurd statement made to date has been "the best vaccine you can get.....is the one you can get."

 

[SKY]

You're pointing the finger at some of the highest disease officials in the world when you say that.

But the most absurd statement made to date has been "the best vaccine you can get.....is the one you can get."

Who cares about people living in a cubicle in the US and posting rhetoric that does not conform to this board anyway? Bottom line is the Dominican Republic is doing a great job getting out a vaccine that is WORKING for what it is supposed to do. Prevent hospitalization and deaths.....................

This forum is for the Dominican Republic to the people who have trouble in reading comprehension.........

 

[lifeisgreat]

One of our teachers tested positive yesterday, and she had her first shot of Sinovac 26 days ago.

You can still get it ..it just lessens your symptoms..that’s why the non vaccinated will be in trouble from the ones vaccinated , we will spread to non... Karma..