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Controversial Mario Vargas Llosa is awarded Dominican nationality and will spend more time here
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Abel Martínez considers it a betrayal to grant nationality to Mario Vargas Llosa
The PLD presidential candidate said the decree granting nationality to the prominent writer should be revoked
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Updated Thursday, June 1, 2023 - 1:37 PM
The presidential candidate of the Dominican Liberation Party (PLD), Abel Martínez, criticized the decision to grant Dominican nationality to the writer Mario Vargas Llosa and called the decision "treason."
During his participation in the Forum of Presidents of the Legislative Powers of Central America and the Caribbean (FOPREL), where he was recognized, Martínez attacked the government's decision.
"It is an act of treason against the Dominicans. Declaring as a Dominican a person who believes that Dominicans are similar to the Nazis, I think it is not convenient or prudent, the time is to strengthen our Dominican identity, our sovereignty, not to do the opposite " , critical.
On this, he said that the decree that grants nationality should be revoked and that in the event that it is not done, "the way will be sought after 2024."
The candidate for the presidency of the Republic spoke on the subject minutes before the vice president, Raquel Peña, explained that "everyone has the right to rectify themselves."
Abel Martínez considers it a betrayal to grant nationality to Mario Vargas Llosa
Abel Martínez considera una traición entregar nacionalidad a Mario Vargas Llosa
El candidato presidencial del PLD dijo que se debería revocar el decreto que otorga la nacionalidad al destacado escritor
Imagine, this is at he top of his yellow pad "To Do" list. Shows where the man's priorties are. Instead of accepting a world renowned author in the DR, and his family, this AH wants to show how big, strong and powerful he is. BTW, how many Dominicans give s shyte about this matter? OTOH, the cultured world will look upon this as a "Huh"??(computer translation)
Abel Martínez considers it a betrayal to grant nationality to Mario Vargas Llosa
The PLD presidential candidate said the decree granting nationality to the prominent writer should be revoked
Abel Martinez
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PAUL MATHIASENSanto Domingo, DR
Updated Thursday, June 1, 2023 - 1:37 PM
The presidential candidate of the Dominican Liberation Party (PLD), Abel Martínez, criticized the decision to grant Dominican nationality to the writer Mario Vargas Llosa and called the decision "treason."
During his participation in the Forum of Presidents of the Legislative Powers of Central America and the Caribbean (FOPREL), where he was recognized, Martínez attacked the government's decision.
"It is an act of treason against the Dominicans. Declaring as a Dominican a person who believes that Dominicans are similar to the Nazis, I think it is not convenient or prudent, the time is to strengthen our Dominican identity, our sovereignty, not to do the opposite " , critical.
On this, he said that the decree that grants nationality should be revoked and that in the event that it is not done, "the way will be sought after 2024."
The candidate for the presidency of the Republic spoke on the subject minutes before the vice president, Raquel Peña, explained that "everyone has the right to rectify themselves."
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Abel Martínez considers it a betrayal to grant nationality to Mario Vargas Llosa
Abel Martínez considera una traición entregar nacionalidad a Mario Vargas Llosa
El candidato presidencial del PLD dijo que se debería revocar el decreto que otorga la nacionalidad al destacado escritorlistindiario.com
Not sure that I understand your comment. My comment was in reference to Martinez taking issue with besowing the nationality to the author. Luis is doing a good thing in honoring him and in the eyesdof the world I think it is very favorable to the DR. My objection is the politian that wants to make the removal of this honor a priority. I think he has far more important matters to deal with.
"believes Dominicans are similar to Nazis"
If he said this then he should be sent home. Remove the cancer before it spreads.
If he said this then he should be sent home. Remove the cancer before it spreads.
The Dominican senate declared Mario Vargas Llosa a non-grata person in the DR at the time. Funny to see a declared by the Dominican government a non-grata person getting recognition from none other than the DR government.
The rejection of giving Dominican citizenship to Mario Vargas Llosa was actually quite widespread in the Dominican media. These are some of them.
Here's the translation of the line from the opinion piece published in El Pais in 2013 that has everyone's panties in such a bunch:
"The ruling of the Dominican Constitutional Court is a legal aberration and seems directly inspired by the famous Hitler laws of the 1930s issued by Nazi German judges to deprive Jews of German nationality who had been living in that country for many years (many centuries). and they were a constitutive part of their society. "
And a link to the opinion piece (sorry- there's a paywall - I'll try to paste the translation in below): https://elpais.com/elpais/2013/10/31/opinion/1383233998_965346.html?event_log=oklogin
Vargas Llosa was referring to a court decision in 2013 regarding citizenship for Dominican born people of Haitian descent. I wonder how many people actually read his piece before jumping on the bandwagon here and in the media. He never compared Dominicans directly to Nazis (at least not in this article - if he did elsewhere please do share!). In my opinion, a dissenting view on a very controversial judicial ruling shouldn't disqualify someone from citizenship in a country.
(here's the article autotranslated in case anyone want to go to the source)
Juliana Deguis Pierre was born 29 years ago to Haitian parents in the Dominican Republic and has never left her homeland. She never learned French or Creole and her only language is the beautiful and musical Spanish with a Dominican flavor. With her birth certificate, Juliana asked the Central Electoral Board (responsible for the civil registry) for her identity card, but this body refused to give it to her and seized her certificate, alleging that her "surnames They were suspicious." Juliana appealed and on September 23, 2013, the Dominican Constitutional Court issued a ruling denying Dominican nationality to all who, like that young woman, are children or descendants of irregular "migrants."
The ruling of the Dominican Constitutional Court is a legal aberration and seems directly inspired by the famous Hitler laws of the 1930s issued by Nazi German judges to deprive Jews of German nationality who had been living in that country for many years (many centuries). and they were a constitutive part of their society. For now, it is insubordinate against a legal provision of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights (of which the Dominican Republic is a part) which, in September 2005, condemned this country for denying the right to nationality to the girls Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico, Dominicans like Juliana, and like her daughters of Haitians. With this precedent, it is obvious that, if consulted,
It should be noted, as The New York Times does on October 24, that two members of the Dominican Constitutional Court gave a dissenting vote and saved the honor of the institution and their country by opposing a clearly racist and discriminatory measure. The argument used by the members of the Court to deny nationality to people like Juliana Deguis Pierre is that her parents have an "irregular situation." In other words, you have to make your children (or grandchildren and great-grandchildren) pay for an alleged crime that their ancestors would have committed. As in the Middle Ages and in the courts of the Inquisition, according to this ruling, crimes are hereditary and are transmitted from father to son through blood.
One of the greatest crimes committed during the tyranny of Generalísimo Trujillo was the indiscriminate massacre of Haitians of 1937 in which, it is said, several tens of thousands of these miserable immigrants were murdered by a mass enraged by the apocalyptic fabrications of fanatical nationalist groups. No less serious is, from the moral and civic point of view, the scandalous sentence of the Constitutional Court. My hope is that opposition to it, both domestic and international, will rid the Caribbean of such flagrant and barbaric injustice. Because the Court's ruling is not limited to ruling on the case of Juliana Deguis Pierre. In addition, so that there is no doubt that you want to establish jurisprudence with the ruling,
If such a legal paralogism prevailed, tens of thousands of Dominican families of Haitian origin (near or remote) would be turned into zombies, into non-persons, beings incapable of obtaining a legal job, enrolling in a public school or university, receiving health insurance , a retirement, leaving the country, and therefore potential victims of all the abuses and outrages. For what crime? For the same as the Jews whom Hitler deprived of legal existence before sending them to the extermination camps: for belonging to a despised race. I know very well that racism is a widespread disease and that no society or country, however civilized and democratic it may be, is fully vaccinated against it. It always appears
I love the Dominican Republic very much, ever since I visited that country for the first time, in 1974, to make a television documentary. Since then I have returned many times and with joy I have seen it democratize, modernize, in all these years, at a faster pace than that of many other Latin American countries without always recognizing its transformation as it deserves. The second of my sons lives and works there and gives all his efforts to support human rights in that country, supported by many admirable Dominicans. That is why I am deeply saddened to see the storm of criticism that rains down on the Constitutional Court and its senseless sentence. This is one of those critical moments that all countries experience in their history. It was also when the terrible earthquake occurred that devastated its neighboring country, Haiti, in January 2010. How did the Dominican Republic act on that occasion? President Leonel Fernández immediately flew to Port-au-Prince to offer help, and it poured out with tremendous abundance and generosity. I still remember the Dominican hospitals full of Haitian victims and the Dominican doctors and nurses who flew to Haiti to provide their services. That is the true face of the Dominican Republic that cannot be distorted by the mischief of its Constitutional Court.
© World press rights in all languages reserved to Ediciones EL PAÍS, SL, 2013.
© Mario Vargas Llosa, 2013.
Outcasts of the Caribbean
TOUCHSTONE. The ruling of the Constitutional Court of the Dominican Republic on the case of Juliana Regis Pierre is a nonsense that denies nationality to the children of irregular immigrants
Juliana Deguis Pierre was born 29 years ago to Haitian parents in the Dominican Republic and has never left her homeland. She never learned French or Creole and her only language is the beautiful and musical Spanish with a Dominican flavor. With her birth certificate, Juliana asked the Central Electoral Board (responsible for the civil registry) for her identity card, but this body refused to give it to her and seized her certificate, alleging that her "surnames They were suspicious." Juliana appealed and on September 23, 2013, the Dominican Constitutional Court issued a ruling denying Dominican nationality to all who, like that young woman, are children or descendants of irregular "migrants."
The ruling of the Dominican Constitutional Court is a legal aberration and seems directly inspired by the famous Hitler laws of the 1930s issued by Nazi German judges to deprive Jews of German nationality who had been living in that country for many years (many centuries). and they were a constitutive part of their society. For now, it is insubordinate against a legal provision of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights (of which the Dominican Republic is a part) which, in September 2005, condemned this country for denying the right to nationality to the girls Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico, Dominicans like Juliana, and like her daughters of Haitians. With this precedent, it is obvious that, if consulted,
It should be noted, as The New York Times does on October 24, that two members of the Dominican Constitutional Court gave a dissenting vote and saved the honor of the institution and their country by opposing a clearly racist and discriminatory measure. The argument used by the members of the Court to deny nationality to people like Juliana Deguis Pierre is that her parents have an "irregular situation." In other words, you have to make your children (or grandchildren and great-grandchildren) pay for an alleged crime that their ancestors would have committed. As in the Middle Ages and in the courts of the Inquisition, according to this ruling, crimes are hereditary and are transmitted from father to son through blood.
Added to the cruelty and inhumanity of such judges is hypocrisy. They know very well that the "irregular" or illegal migration of Haitians to the Dominican Republic that began at the beginning of the twentieth century is a complex social and economic phenomenon, which in many periods —those of greatest prosperity, precisely— has been encouraged by landowners. and Dominican businessmen in order to have cheap labor for the sugar cane harvest, construction or domestic work, with full knowledge and tolerance of the authorities, aware of the economic benefit that the country obtained —well, its middle and upper classes—with the existence of a mass of immigrants in an irregular situation and who, therefore, lived in extremely precarious conditions, the vast majority of them without work contracts,
One of the greatest crimes committed during the tyranny of Generalísimo Trujillo was the indiscriminate massacre of Haitians of 1937 in which, it is said, several tens of thousands of these miserable immigrants were murdered by a mass enraged by the apocalyptic fabrications of fanatical nationalist groups. No less serious is, from the moral and civic point of view, the scandalous sentence of the Constitutional Court. My hope is that opposition to it, both domestic and international, will rid the Caribbean of such flagrant and barbaric injustice. Because the Court's ruling is not limited to ruling on the case of Juliana Deguis Pierre. In addition, so that there is no doubt that you want to establish jurisprudence with the ruling,
If such a legal paralogism prevailed, tens of thousands of Dominican families of Haitian origin (near or remote) would be turned into zombies, into non-persons, beings incapable of obtaining a legal job, enrolling in a public school or university, receiving health insurance , a retirement, leaving the country, and therefore potential victims of all the abuses and outrages. For what crime? For the same as the Jews whom Hitler deprived of legal existence before sending them to the extermination camps: for belonging to a despised race. I know very well that racism is a widespread disease and that no society or country, however civilized and democratic it may be, is fully vaccinated against it. It always appears
Fortunately, there are many courageous and democratic voices in Dominican civil society—intellectuals, human rights associations, journalists—who, like the two dissident judges of the Constitutional Court, have denounced the measure and are mobilizing against it. It is painful, yes, the complicit silence of so many political parties or opinion leaders who are silent in the face of iniquity or, like the prehistoric Cardinal Archbishop of Santo Domingo, Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez, who supports it, seasoning it with insults against those who condemn it . I thought that we Peruvians had, with Cardinal Juan Luis Cipriani, the sad privilege of having the most reactionary and anti-democratic archbishop in Latin America, but I see that his Dominican colleague disputes the scepter.
I love the Dominican Republic very much, ever since I visited that country for the first time, in 1974, to make a television documentary. Since then I have returned many times and with joy I have seen it democratize, modernize, in all these years, at a faster pace than that of many other Latin American countries without always recognizing its transformation as it deserves. The second of my sons lives and works there and gives all his efforts to support human rights in that country, supported by many admirable Dominicans. That is why I am deeply saddened to see the storm of criticism that rains down on the Constitutional Court and its senseless sentence. This is one of those critical moments that all countries experience in their history. It was also when the terrible earthquake occurred that devastated its neighboring country, Haiti, in January 2010. How did the Dominican Republic act on that occasion? President Leonel Fernández immediately flew to Port-au-Prince to offer help, and it poured out with tremendous abundance and generosity. I still remember the Dominican hospitals full of Haitian victims and the Dominican doctors and nurses who flew to Haiti to provide their services. That is the true face of the Dominican Republic that cannot be distorted by the mischief of its Constitutional Court.
© World press rights in all languages reserved to Ediciones EL PAÍS, SL, 2013.
© Mario Vargas Llosa, 2013.
Ah! Perhaps he should read post #12 from Chelsea Rose. Can anyone tell me how I might send her post to Martinez? (Forward in some manner?)
He doesn't care. These guys aren't genuinely against immigration, illegal or otherwise, they use it as a dog whistle and campaign platform. The main political families that bring these things up every few years are in part immigrants themselves (think Spanish, Italian, Lebanese, Syrian), owners of large agricultural and construction holdings (the main employers of haitian workers), and or Haitian descendants themselves ironically (think Bisono), albeit the French landowners, not the slaves, hence a bit of a standing grudge.
Well it would be nice if he had his facts correct. There is much dispute about the actual number of Haitians killed by Trujillo. As far as the constitutional court rulings- completely legal.
The biggest mistery is why no Haitian remains have been found anywhere in the DR from that event. All the time Taino remains from the pre-colonial area, remains from the colonial area, and even remains from the Trujillo dictatoshiip has been found. They do catbon testing to date the remains and other testings for the type of remains and Haitians simply never appears. Everything points that it was consirably smaller than many believed and restricted to the northern border area, as reports from the Haitian government in addition to the Dominican one attest at the time. The tendency to increase the number of victims as time goes on has been studied by many and appears in several books. Chsnces are more Haitians were killed by the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti than by Trujillo, but there is hardly any focus on the Duvalier victims despite of the obvious.
The interesting part anout the judges in the Constitutional Tribunal is that many are still there while Vargas Llosa was given the citizenship. This is not definite, as a citizendhip can be stripped as has recently been seen in Nicaragua. Abinader's government will not do that, but Abinader will notbe president forever. Whwt was done with Vargas Llosa is very unpopular.
Anyway, another clip...