Coronavirus - In the DR

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chico bill

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you could make the argument that is exactly why a foreigner should be required to have an insurance so they don’t become the DRs problem in a public hospital. Public hospitals are for Dominicans.
If only those entering illegally in other countries did the same.
What fraction of public hospital use is taken by foreigners (excluding Haitians) ?
I suspect if you take, Europeans, Americans, Canadians and Russians and check the percentage of all of them combined it would less than .5%.
And I suppose Dominicans living in Canada or the US without insurance should not be treated if they lack insurance as well ?
 

NanSanPedro

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you could make the argument that is exactly why a foreigner should be required to have an insurance so they don’t become the DRs problem in a public hospital. Public hospitals are for Dominicans.

John, it's my understanding that they will not let you leave if you have an unpaid bill of any kind (that has been adjudicated by the courts). We have to pay our bills if we get sick. Why would I want or need mandatory insurance? It's just not necessary.
 
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aarhus

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I can see an insurance possibly required is a touchy issue for the “freedom fighters” like getting residency instead of continued overstaying and wearing masks and other requirements during a pandemic.
 

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John, it's my understanding that they will not let you leave if you have an unpaid bill of any kind (that has been adjudicated by the courts). We have to pay our bills if we get sick. Why would I want or need mandatory insurance? It's just not necessary.
I've been in the Public hospital after a motorcycle accident. My GF injured her foot and as I was roughed up and bleeding, they insisted that my wounds were cleaned to avoid infection. I turned down the morphine shot and they cleaned me up. No charge.

It's customary in any country with a public health infrastructure to pay for insurance during the visit. It's no big deal and modest for a country like the DR.
 

NanSanPedro

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I can see an insurance possibly required is a touchy issue for the “freedom fighters” like getting residency instead of continued overstaying and wearing masks and other requirements during a pandemic.

If the residency requirements were managed better, many of us would apply. I emailed the Chicago consulate months ago. No reply. I can't even start the process.

Regarding masks, I wear one and support wearing them in public facilities. Wearing them by yourself is stupid and many don't comply with it.

We don't need more government rules about insurance purchase. Remember insurance is a zero sum game. Insurance companies win, payers lose.
 
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If the residency requirements were managed better, many of us would apply. I emailed the Chicago consulate months ago. No reply. I can't even start the process.

Regarding masks, I wear one and support wearing them in public facilities. Wearing them by yourself is stupid and many don't comply with it.

We don't need more government rules about insurance purchase. Remember insurance is a zero sum game. Insurance companies win, payers lose.
Ok Nash
 

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John, John, John. Live life at your own risk. Ayn Rand: "No right of mine constitutes an obligation on any man living."

Oh for God's sake.
It is all very fine and dandy to spout that argument like so much libertarian literature but when the itshay hits the anfay, and the going gets real, it is a whole different story.
What do we do with the dam fool who arrives in the D.R. with no travel/accident insurance and gets sick or has an accident a few days in?
Should we honor his all-mighty "libertarian" right and leave him on the side of the road to die like a dog?
Or do we do the humanitarian thing and deal with his injuries/illness?
Do you have any idea how much time is spent and expense incurred by multiple parties dealing with the guy with the libertarian rights?
Suffice it to say that... his right will, in fact, constitute an obligation on many men living.
Many people say that libertarianism is just another word for narcissism.
 
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Oh for God's sake.
It is all very fine and dandy to spout that argument in so much libertarian literature but when the itshay hits the anfay, and the going gets real, it is a whole different story.
What do we do with the dam fool who arrives in the D.R. with no travel/accident insurance and gets sick or has an accident a few days in?
Should we honor his all-mighty "libertarian" right and leave him on the side of the road to die like a dog?
Or do we do the humanitarian thing and deal with his injuries/illness?
Do you have any idea how much time is spent and expense incurred by multiple parties dealing with the guy with the libertarian rights?
Suffice it to say that... his right will, in fact, constitute an obligation on many men living.
Many people say that libertarianism is just another word for narcissism.
:sick:
 

KyleMackey

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Oh for God's sake.
It is all very fine and dandy to spout that argument like so much libertarian literature but when the itshay hits the anfay, and the going gets real, it is a whole different story.
What do we do with the dam fool who arrives in the D.R. with no travel/accident insurance and gets sick or has an accident a few days in?
Should we honor his all-mighty "libertarian" right and leave him on the side of the road to die like a dog?
Or do we do the humanitarian thing and deal with his injuries/illness?
Do you have any idea how much time is spent and expense incurred by multiple parties dealing with the guy with the libertarian rights?
Suffice it to say that... his right will, in fact, constitute an obligation on many men living.
Many people say that libertarianism is just another word for narcissism.
Call an ambulance/911?
 

jd426

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Oh for God's sake.
It is all very fine and dandy to spout that argument like so much libertarian literature but when the itshay hits the anfay, and the going gets real, it is a whole different story.
What do we do with the dam fool who arrives in the D.R. with no travel/accident insurance and gets sick or has an accident a few days in?
Should we honor his all-mighty "libertarian" right and leave him on the side of the road to die like a dog?
Or do we do the humanitarian thing and deal with his injuries/illness?
Do you have any idea how much time is spent and expense incurred by multiple parties dealing with the guy with the libertarian rights?
Suffice it to say that... his right will, in fact, constitute an obligation on many men living.
Many people say that libertarianism is just another word for narcissism.
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Um , what happened to that woman who was ejected from the Car and found wandering on the street, dazed and lost
.. the missing couple , he ended up in the ocean , found dead later .They raced to the Airport in Santo Domingo, on their last night from an AI... do you recall that story , ?
She was in a Dominican hospital for 9 days ? and no one even knew who she was, a Jane Does , until she died ..
Those are the consequences .
the DR aint Kansas . you take your risks , you pay the price for your decisions , its no one else' s responsibility .
 

KyleMackey

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Um , what happened to that woman who was ejected from the Car and found wandering on the street, dazed and lost
.. the missing couple , he ended up in the ocean , found dead later .They raced to the Airport in Santo Domingo, on their last night from an AI... do you recall that story , ?
She was in a Dominican hospital for 9 days ? and no one even knew who she was, a Jane Does , until she died ..
Those are the consequences .
the DR aint Kansas . you take your risks , you pay the price for your decisions , its no one else' s responsibility .
Yeah that was a crazy one. Guessing her identification was in the car so nobody knew who she was.
 
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chico bill

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I can see an insurance possibly required is a touchy issue for the “freedom fighters” like getting residency instead of continued overstaying and wearing masks and other requirements during a pandemic.
What other ideas do you have for our lives John. We need more socialism controlling every aspect of our being.
 
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aarhus

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At the end of the day we are just foreigners discussing the DR. If the government after the pandemic decides having long term overstayers and many not being insured is a risk and costly then that is up to the Dominican government and not us.
 

NanSanPedro

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At the end of the day we are just foreigners discussing the DR. If the government after the pandemic decides having long term overstayers and many not being insured is a risk and costly then that is up to the Dominican government and not us.

True statement. If they impose new rules then we have the option of rethinking our decisions to stay here.
 

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I'm a snowbird, who overstays every year & pays the extra fee because I've been told that is the only way to handle it. I would gladly do something else & would pay for insurance when I entered, depending on what it offered. We're US & buy travel insurance every year in case of emergency. All Canadians buy travel insurance & actually may not even go to the DR in 2021 if their insurance won't cover Covid.
 
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