COVID Mandates

[windeguy]

Is this happening at all the Metro stations? Forcing people to wait in lines will only make things worse. I'll use UBER (the very first use was in Zona Colonia - couldn't find taxi on a holiday!! and many times they dont want to go where I need to. plus my hotel is in residential area. same problem in Panama) or hire private driver.

Just came back from Mexico. no border closures, no lockdowns, no checking. Lot of people on subway and bus, its fine. and all of Mexico (except Baja Ca) is green light (their risk map)

After station melee, is SD Metro a hotbed of contagion?

<p>After registering today a tumult of people trying to access the Santo Domingo Metro mass transport service, the question arises as to whether it would have become a source of contagion. With half masks, without distancing, and with kilometer lines, this is how the entrance area to the María...

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The government has stated previously, around the first week in November, that on December 1, 2021 they were going to actually enforce the vaccine restrictions on those entering public spaces. That would include any shopping areas, public transport of any kind including the METRO and a whole lot more. No idea what is going on with the METRO right this minute. Waiting three weeks to enforce what is being for the most part ignored makes no sense, but that is the approach they said they would take.

We have to see when December 1 comes if they really enforce the vaccine requirement, if a CV19 test within a week also works, Or not.

 

[william webster]

Dec 1st is to allow all those vaxed in October to get the 2nd shot.

Grace period over Dec 1st....... thru Nov 30, 1 shot counted as fully vaxed

 

[Birdman]

Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.

 

[windeguy]

Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.

There is no way to know how long immunity will last from until that amount of time passes and studies are done. We are a long way out from knowing if natural immunity lasts for 5 years.

 

[Grampa]

Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.

Got links to support any of that?

 

[Grampa]

I'm just about out the door for a long weekend or I would post some to the contrary. Perhaps later if necessary.

 

[NanSanPedro]

Europe now wants to inject people every 9 months.

EU Proposes 9 Month Time Limit On Vaccines For Travel Before Booster Requirement

The EU is proposing a 9-month validity on vaccines for entering the EU, after that travelers will need booster jabs to enter the bloc.

www.traveloffpath.com

Glad I visited that continent in 2019 before all this nonsense kicked in.

Glad I never visited. If they want to be that authoritarian, I'll go elsewhere.

 

[NanSanPedro]

Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.

Vaxs are a logic free zone. Stop, just stop.

 

[CristoRey]

I disagree completely but it's not worth an internet argument.

I agree.
I also respect your opinion.

 

[Birdman]

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Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.

www.nih.gov

I can't find the one that said 5 years.

 

[windeguy]

The Pulse | Substack

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Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.

www.nih.gov

I can't find the one that said 5 years.

It would be impossible to find anyone who can demonstrate that natural immunity from being infected with CV19 would last for more than the amount of time CV19 has been around, let alone 5 years. Current best guesses at patient zero dates, perhaps in December of 2019, in the area near a Wuhan Food Market (after it leaked from the lab of course 😇 ). Further refinements on that date are unlikely since the Chinese are not about to cooperate. And what about the various vaccine studies that indicated vaccines produced more antibodies than being infected and now vaccines are waning after less than a year? Yes I know that immunity isn't just about antibody levels.


We are just hitting the 2 year mark now since patient zero, although it seems like forever, doesn't it?

 

[windeguy]

Covid Live Updates: South Africa Identifies New Variant

The concerning new variant is driving a spike in infections in South Africa. Britain banned flights from six African nations as it investigates a new variant.

www.nytimes.com

Covid Live Updates: South Africa Identifies New Variant​

The concerning new variant is driving a spike in infections in South Africa. Britain banned flights from six African nations as it investigates a new variant.

JOHANNESBURG — A concerning new variant of the coronavirus, whose mutations evidence a “big jump in evolution,” is driving a spike in new Covid-19 infections in South Africa, scientists said on Thursday.

In the last 36 hours after observing an increase in infections in South Africa’s economic hub, the Gauteng province, scientists detected the B1.1.529 variant. So far, 22 positive cases have been identified in South Africa, according to South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases.

Since the onset of the pandemic, a number of variants have emerged. One underlying concern about new variants is whether they will stymie progress against the pandemic or whether they will limit the vaccine’s effectiveness. South African scientists will meet with the World Health Organization technical team on Friday, where authorities will assign a letter of the Greek alphabet to this one.

Botswana’s health ministry confirmed in a statement that four cases of the new variant were detected in people who were all fully vaccinated. All four were tested before their planned travel. One sample was also detected in Hong Kong, carried by a traveler from South Africa, South African scientists said.

 

[Birdman]

There are only reports about the vaccines being better than natural immunity in the fake news.

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...

www.medrxiv.org

 

[Birdman]

This is easier to understand.

Israeli study shows natural immunity delivers 13 times more protection than COVID vaccines

CDC study on natural immunity has different conclusion than Israeli study.

www.clarkcountytoday.com

 

[Grampa]

There are only reports about the vaccines being better than natural immunity in the fake news.

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...

www.medrxiv.org

Everything is not a conspiracy despite what those like you name calling and talking of fake news. Show us something from a legitimate mainstream source that normal people would agree is acceptable and we can have a real discussion. You Israeli study is not peer reviewed.

The immunity provided by vaccines is much more than for those that recovered from Covid and having Covid is much riskier than any of the vaccines

 

[Grampa]

I agree.
I also respect your opinion.

As I yours. Thanks

 

[DR fan1990]

Fully jabbed singer Bryan Adams tests positive for the second time in a month.

Bryan Adams tests positive for COVID-19 for the second time in a month

The singer-songwriter is due to tour the UK next spring

www.nme.com

 

[SKY]

Everything is not a conspiracy despite what those like you name calling and talking of fake news. Show us something from a legitimate mainstream source that normal people would agree is acceptable and we can have a real discussion. You Israeli study is not peer reviewed.

The immunity provided by vaccines is much more than for those that recovered from Covid and having Covid is much riskier than any of the vaccines

COVID Vax 5 Times More Protective Than Natural Immunity​

Nov. 1, 2021 -- Unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected with the coronavirus compared to those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection, according to a new study published Friday in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

COVID-19 Vaccines

Vaccines are seen as one of the best ways to stop COVID-19. Learn more about the types of vaccines, including the newly approved Novavax.

www.webmd.com

 

[windeguy]

Covid Live Updates: Variant Alert From South Africa Prompts Rush to Halt Flights

South African scientists will meet with W.H.O. experts on Friday to discuss a concerning new coronavirus variant. Several countries are already imposing restrictions on travel to and from South Africa and its neighbors.

www.nytimes.com

The Hong Kong government said on Thursday that it had detected two cases of a new variant identified in South Africa, which scientists have warned shows a “big jump in evolution” and could limit the effectiveness of vaccines.

Covid Live Updates: Variant Alert From South Africa Prompts Rush to Halt Flights​

South African scientists will meet with W.H.O. experts on Friday to discuss a concerning new coronavirus variant. Several countries are already imposing restrictions on travel to and from South Africa and its neighbors.
RIGHT NOW
Travel restrictions multiply for African countries over fears of a new variant.

Here’s what you need to know:​

• What scientists know about the new variant, B.1.1.529.
• Hong Kong records two cases of the new variant detected in South Africa.
• Europe is being tested by waves of cases that threaten its progress against the pandemic.

Travel restrictions multiply for African countries over fears of a new variant.​

 

[windeguy]

La OMS estudia nueva variante del coronavirus con múltiples mutaciones

Expertos de la Organización Mundial de la Salud (OMS) están analizando junto a colegas sudafricanos la nueva variante descubierta del coronavirus caus...

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