COVID Mandates

windeguy

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Is this happening at all the Metro stations? Forcing people to wait in lines will only make things worse. I'll use UBER (the very first use was in Zona Colonia - couldn't find taxi on a holiday!! and many times they dont want to go where I need to. plus my hotel is in residential area. same problem in Panama) or hire private driver.

Just came back from Mexico. no border closures, no lockdowns, no checking. Lot of people on subway and bus, its fine. and all of Mexico (except Baja Ca) is green light (their risk map)

The government has stated previously, around the first week in November, that on December 1, 2021 they were going to actually enforce the vaccine restrictions on those entering public spaces. That would include any shopping areas, public transport of any kind including the METRO and a whole lot more. No idea what is going on with the METRO right this minute. Waiting three weeks to enforce what is being for the most part ignored makes no sense, but that is the approach they said they would take.

We have to see when December 1 comes if they really enforce the vaccine requirement, if a CV19 test within a week also works, Or not.
 
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Dec 1st is to allow all those vaxed in October to get the 2nd shot.

Grace period over Dec 1st....... thru Nov 30, 1 shot counted as fully vaxed
 

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Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.
 
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Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.
There is no way to know how long immunity will last from until that amount of time passes and studies are done. We are a long way out from knowing if natural immunity lasts for 5 years.
 
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Why no mention of natural immunity? They were saying that the vaccine is good for maybe 3 months and now they are saying that the antibody decay of people who had the virus shows that immunity might last 5 years.

Vaxs are a logic free zone. Stop, just stop.
 
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windeguy

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I can't find the one that said 5 years.
It would be impossible to find anyone who can demonstrate that natural immunity from being infected with CV19 would last for more than the amount of time CV19 has been around, let alone 5 years. Current best guesses at patient zero dates, perhaps in December of 2019, in the area near a Wuhan Food Market (after it leaked from the lab of course :ROFLMAO: 😇 :devilish: ). Further refinements on that date are unlikely since the Chinese are not about to cooperate. And what about the various vaccine studies that indicated vaccines produced more antibodies than being infected and now vaccines are waning after less than a year? Yes I know that immunity isn't just about antibody levels.


We are just hitting the 2 year mark now since patient zero, although it seems like forever, doesn't it?
 
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Covid Live Updates: South Africa Identifies New Variant​

The concerning new variant is driving a spike in infections in South Africa. Britain banned flights from six African nations as it investigates a new variant.

JOHANNESBURG — A concerning new variant of the coronavirus, whose mutations evidence a “big jump in evolution,” is driving a spike in new Covid-19 infections in South Africa, scientists said on Thursday.

In the last 36 hours after observing an increase in infections in South Africa’s economic hub, the Gauteng province, scientists detected the B1.1.529 variant. So far, 22 positive cases have been identified in South Africa, according to South Africa’s National Institute for Communicable Diseases.

Since the onset of the pandemic, a number of variants have emerged. One underlying concern about new variants is whether they will stymie progress against the pandemic or whether they will limit the vaccine’s effectiveness. South African scientists will meet with the World Health Organization technical team on Friday, where authorities will assign a letter of the Greek alphabet to this one.

Botswana’s health ministry confirmed in a statement that four cases of the new variant were detected in people who were all fully vaccinated. All four were tested before their planned travel. One sample was also detected in Hong Kong, carried by a traveler from South Africa, South African scientists said.
 

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There are only reports about the vaccines being better than natural immunity in the fake news.
 
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There are only reports about the vaccines being better than natural immunity in the fake news.
Everything is not a conspiracy despite what those like you name calling and talking of fake news. Show us something from a legitimate mainstream source that normal people would agree is acceptable and we can have a real discussion. You Israeli study is not peer reviewed.

The immunity provided by vaccines is much more than for those that recovered from Covid and having Covid is much riskier than any of the vaccines ;)
 

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Everything is not a conspiracy despite what those like you name calling and talking of fake news. Show us something from a legitimate mainstream source that normal people would agree is acceptable and we can have a real discussion. You Israeli study is not peer reviewed.

The immunity provided by vaccines is much more than for those that recovered from Covid and having Covid is much riskier than any of the vaccines ;)

COVID Vax 5 Times More Protective Than Natural Immunity​


Nov. 1, 2021 -- Unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected with the coronavirus compared to those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection, according to a new study published Friday in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

 

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The Hong Kong government said on Thursday that it had detected two cases of a new variant identified in South Africa, which scientists have warned shows a “big jump in evolution” and could limit the effectiveness of vaccines.

Covid Live Updates: Variant Alert From South Africa Prompts Rush to Halt Flights​

South African scientists will meet with W.H.O. experts on Friday to discuss a concerning new coronavirus variant. Several countries are already imposing restrictions on travel to and from South Africa and its neighbors.
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Travel restrictions multiply for African countries over fears of a new variant.

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Travel restrictions multiply for African countries over fears of a new variant.