Crowds over the weekend could revert Covid-19 downward trends

Cdn_Gringo

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With an election coming up, it only makes sense to view any numbers published by the govt with a bit of skepticism. CV19 has been a contributing factor in many deaths world wide. It comes as no surprise that all the officials would like to downplay that role to make their response look that much more effective than it was.
 

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"the curfew is important"??? Oh yea it is not possible to spread the Wuhan Virus between the hours of 9pm - 5 am M-F and 7pm and 5 am Sat and Sun. It is amazing how the health experts recognized the 2 extra hours per day that the virus can't be transmitted. The closures /curfews have negatively effected much more of the population than the virus.
Open everything now! NO curfews!, elderly and those with pre-existing conditions take extra care.
thick as s...t...typical !
 

Andre14615

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"the curfew is important"??? Oh yea it is not possible to spread the Wuhan Virus between the hours of 9pm - 5 am M-F and 7pm and 5 am Sat and Sun. It is amazing how the health experts recognized the 2 extra hours per day that the virus can't be transmitted. The closures /curfews have negatively effected much more of the population than the virus.
Open everything now! NO curfews!, elderly and those with pre-existing conditions take extra care.
This isn't hard to figure out. Before the curfew there was over 2,000 cases a day and the hospitals were collapsing. After the implementation of the curfew the daily numbers are around 300 cases a day. The evidence is clear whether you like it or not. Men lie women lie numbers don't.
 
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Cdn_Gringo

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Any failure of the curfew is the fault of the people who did not observe the curfew. Nothing short of an enforced 24/hr a day lock down can be expected to end all disease transmission. If the curfew hours are observed by everyone then during those hours the only spread that can occur is among people in the same house waiting out the curfew hours. As long as people are free to move about and interact with others there will be virus spread. That's just common sense. So shortening the number of hours people are confined to their homes can only allow more time for carriers to infect others. There is just no way around this simple concept. I'm not advocating more curfew it does damage to the economy and people's lives, but everyone must accept that outside the curfew they must actively take proactive efforts to ensure they do spread or catch the virus. Not everyone is willing to do this so the virus spreads easily and at times rather quickly. We'll see in a couple of weeks if the extra two hours of unrestricted movement has the expected effect of causing the infection number to rise by some degree.
 

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Totally agree with NanSanPedro. I also think the reason why we saw hospitals overloaded and politicians screaming for 30,000+ ventilators was panic and nothing more.
Even once a vaccine is available its not going to be 100%. None ever are. It will help slow the spread but covid will always be with us. We can't shut the world down because of it.
A vaccine is not going to be available for about 2 years according to medical experts. Availability will be this year according to non-experts.

How long will Dominicans self isolate? Two more years in hopes of a good vaccine?

Dominican were calm far longer than I expected. There are articles almost daily of people defying the police so that is changing.
 
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windeguy

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Any failure of the curfew is the fault of the people who did not observe the curfew. Nothing short of an enforced 24/hr a day lock down can be expected to end all disease transmission. If the curfew hours are observed by everyone then during those hours the only spread that can occur is among people in the same house waiting out the curfew hours. As long as people are free to move about and interact with others there will be virus spread. That's just common sense. So shortening the number of hours people are confined to their homes can only allow more time for carriers to infect others. There is just no way around this simple concept. I'm not advocating more curfew it does damage to the economy and people's lives, but everyone must accept that outside the curfew they must actively take proactive efforts to ensure they do spread or catch the virus. Not everyone is willing to do this so the virus spreads easily and at times rather quickly. We'll see in a couple of weeks if the extra two hours of unrestricted movement has the expected effect of causing the infection number to rise by some degree.
Or you could just say that flattening the curve does no necessarily reduce the area under it.
 

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Any failure of the curfew is the fault of the people who did not observe the curfew. Nothing short of an enforced 24/hr a day lock down can be expected to end all disease transmission. If the curfew hours are observed by everyone then during those hours the only spread that can occur is among people in the same house waiting out the curfew hours. As long as people are free to move about and interact with others there will be virus spread. That's just common sense. So shortening the number of hours people are confined to their homes can only allow more time for carriers to infect others. There is just no way around this simple concept. I'm not advocating more curfew it does damage to the economy and people's lives, but everyone must accept that outside the curfew they must actively take proactive efforts to ensure they do spread or catch the virus. Not everyone is willing to do this so the virus spreads easily and at times rather quickly. We'll see in a couple of weeks if the extra two hours of unrestricted movement has the expected effect of causing the infection number to rise by some degree.
What you failed to mention is extremely important for the Covid freaks
who are concerned about the spread of this virus.

If you or anyone else are caught outside after the curfew and are arrested
then you are hauled off to jail for the night, correct?

Anyone who's lived here for any amount of time knows these jails
are notorious for overcrowding, correct?

Has it dawned on any of you that perphaps what is causing the continued
spread of this virus is not people being outside after a certain time of the day?

Maybe, just maybe it is the fact that once arrested you will be forced to
spend the night in a cramped cell where they offer you zero PPE to prevent
you from contracting this virus from the person next to you while incarcerated.

By 9am the following morning you and anyone else who may have become
infected during your brief stay at the local jail are now released back into the
general public with no testing and no follow up.

This is curfew is not working nor will it ever achieved the desired results.
The only thing this curfew has achieved was destroying the livelihoods of
millions of people.

I won't even bother talking about the thousands of tourist who are now arriving daily
and who are not being tested.

We've lost over 250,000 jobs in the formal sector and I read just recently
for every one lost in the formal sector, an estimated three were lost in the
informal sector.

Its time to wake up people. Get a grip on your situtation. If you're old or in
poor health wear a mask or stay home and let the healthy people get on with
their lives.
It's time to flatten the fear.
 
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CristoRey

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Do you know how many lives have been saved because people took this pandemic seriously or better yet do you care?
Indeed I do.
Taking this pandemic seriously can
be done without ruining the livelihoods
of millions of people.
 
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Garyexpat

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Any failure of the curfew is the fault of the people who did not observe the curfew. Nothing short of an enforced 24/hr a day lock down can be expected to end all disease transmission. If the curfew hours are observed by everyone then during those hours the only spread that can occur is among people in the same house waiting out the curfew hours. As long as people are free to move about and interact with others there will be virus spread. That's just common sense. So shortening the number of hours people are confined to their homes can only allow more time for carriers to infect others. There is just no way around this simple concept. I'm not advocating more curfew it does damage to the economy and people's lives, but everyone must accept that outside the curfew they must actively take proactive efforts to ensure they do spread or catch the virus. Not everyone is willing to do this so the virus spreads easily and at times rather quickly. We'll see in a couple of weeks if the extra two hours of unrestricted movement has the expected effect of causing the infection number to rise by some degree.

So, an example in disagreement with your assertion, which I have brought up in the past with no one answering is Colombia was closed from March until just recently 24/7. You had one day a week to go out based on the last number of your cedula and yet in July and beginning Aug. they had a spike in cases. This was BEFORE starting to open up some. Old people and people with pre existing conditions should take extra precautions and since such a minute number of people die from it everything should be opened. Should the D>R> shut down from deaths from Hepititis? Road accidents? Gripe?
For those Covit freaks, as my buddy Cristorey refers to you, by all means stay shut in until 2025 and be happy.
 

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Any failure of the curfew is the fault of the people who did not observe the curfew. Nothing short of an enforced 24/hr a day lock down can be expected to end all disease transmission. If the curfew hours are observed by everyone then during those hours the only spread that can occur is among people in the same house waiting out the curfew hours. As long as people are free to move about and interact with others there will be virus spread. That's just common sense. So shortening the number of hours people are confined to their homes can only allow more time for carriers to infect others. There is just no way around this simple concept. I'm not advocating more curfew it does damage to the economy and people's lives, but everyone must accept that outside the curfew they must actively take proactive efforts to ensure they do spread or catch the virus. Not everyone is willing to do this so the virus spreads easily and at times rather quickly. We'll see in a couple of weeks if the extra two hours of unrestricted movement has the expected effect of causing the infection number to rise by some degree.

So, an example in disagreement with your assertion, which I have brought up in the past with no one answering is Colombia was closed from March until just recently 24/7. You had one day a week to go out based on the last number of your cedula and yet in July and beginning Aug. they had a spike in cases. This was BEFORE starting to open up some. Old people and people with pre existing conditions should take extra precautions and since such a minute number of people die from it everything should be opened. Should the D>R> shut down from deaths from Hepititis? Road accidents? Gripe?
For those Covit freaks, as my buddy Cristorey refers to you, by all means stay shut in until 2025 and be happy.
 
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Garyexpat

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I had been going with a 0.5% fatality rate (1 in 200) of those infected (not reported cases, but estimates of those infected) from early on in this pandemic. It seems it is much less than that.

Much less.

If countries closed from every disease, virus that causes a similar % of deaths nothing would EVER be open. This is about population control pure and simple.
 

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If countries closed from every disease, virus that causes a similar % of deaths nothing would EVER be open. This is about population control pure and simple.

Indeed. The 1.5 million deaths per year from TB is a good example; it's an EXTREMELY contagious disease that truly IS spread by aerosol and NO-ONE wears a mask. I am not sure of the stats for TB in DR, but it's a massive problem in Haiti and elsewhere. No lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Even with the inflated numbers, Covid deaths will not approach TB deaths this year.
All of this defies logic, come on people, THINK!!!!!
 

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Indeed. The 1.5 million deaths per year from TB is a good example; it's an EXTREMELY contagious disease that truly IS spread by aerosol and NO-ONE wears a mask. I am not sure of the stats for TB in DR, but it's a massive problem in Haiti and elsewhere. No lockdowns, no masks, no nothing. Even with the inflated numbers, Covid deaths will not approach TB deaths this year.
All of this defies logic, come on people, THINK!!!!!

When a cough, is not just a cough.
Another malady that the whore mongers of Sosua may want to keep in mind.
 
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When a cough, is not just a cough.
Another malady that the whore mongers of Sosua may want to keep in mind.
Cough.. cough, cough, cough...
Man, that sure, cough, cough, cough...
sounds like something we better
watch for.
 
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chico bill

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How can you protect the vulnerable when the asymptomatics don't know they have it? This is the very reason why the curfew is important
Asymptomatic does not mean you are a contagious person. It only means you developed Sars antibodies.
Wanting to control people does not make one a responsible person - control your own actions and protect yourself.
No matter how long we wear a mask or stay in the home after curfew this SARS outbreak will not disappear.
Prepare to see things return to pre-Covid conditions soon.
 
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