Definition of a sanky

[Africaida]

Since it is 2010

keep all posts as it will give an insight on how people really are...

intercultural relationships will work, but will be a little harder to my honest opinion...

sankies are to be found anywhere, and not a DR exclusive, just holiday in Spain, Turkey, Greece, France, Tunesia, Morocco, whatever...

The disdain shown by some posters here, just reflect on their poor view of women, men, and cultural backgrounds...

some are just here to pick a fight...

I agree that it is not DR exclusive but France, Greece and Spain ??? What would the sankies gain ? It mostly happens in tourist destinations where there is a large gap in wealth between tourists and the population.

 

[Bronxboy]

http://www.dr1.com/forums/men-mars-women-venus/30782-successful-relationships-dominican-style.html

The above thread has over 53,000 views.

The posts I have not read thoroughly but I bet all of ladies that have met there man and are still together have posted on this thread and others.

YOUR MATE IS NOT A SANKY!!!!!!!!

My opinion.

 

[EmilyCaldwell]

I do not think Matilda was confused as to what a Sanky is, she is trying to find out if people think there are hard and fast rules or just a basic "well if he is young and poor, he is a sanky" kind of mindset.

For me personaly i think there are degrees of sanky, let me explain the different levels of sankiness i have witnessed and or heard about.

1. The want to be sanky:- A young boy who has seen or heard about dominican men married, dating or playing the field on resorts. Try and go to the tourist hotspots to land a gringa ot two but cant compete with the experienced sanky. Dreams of one day to be given the oppurtunity to con some unsuspecting gringa. Speaks no english.

2. The lazy Sanky:- Not too different from the "wanna be" above, but has discovered facebook and MSN messenger to get chatting to potencial tourists that are part of fan pages such as "I love Punta Cana" or something on facebook. For some reason tourists except friend requests from these lowlives and it begins. These guys cant even be bothered and have discovered there is no need to get a job on a resort, they speak terrible english but have discovered online translation sites.

3. The lucky Sanky:- These young men, get a job on a resort as lets face it theres not much else around and they suddenly are thrown into the world of oppurtunity. Finds himself suddenly a resort attraction "oh he can dance" "oh look at his smile" "wow they are soooo friendly", not used to this kind of attention he is like a kid in a candy store and goes with the flow. If he is offered the chance of a visa he will take it and the girts are greatly received. most of these will go for the girls they actually fancy. They may make the odd phone call to their so called girlfriends every now and again asking for a bit of financial help.

4. The agressive Sanky:- Probably started out as the lucky sanky and after a bit of experience and as his english progesses he will become an oppurtunist. He will chat up anything with a heart beat and have multiple girls going at the same time, sometimes who are all on the same resort at one time!! He has the swagger and the confidence to tell the women everything they want to hear. In this case they are not remotely interested in young girls who have to ask daddy for money, they want the older, middle aged women who are more greatful for the attention and because of their age feel a greater urgency to close the deal. these guys have every intention of bleeding their victims dry with no consience as to what will happen to these women after they have been left high, dry and humiliated. They will make the "mami i have had an accident on my scooter" stories. These men will NEVER ask for money, they are too good. They will manipulate the woman into asking them if they need some money. They do not have to need the money to ask for it, the money and gifts they receive are a very good second income and it is business!!

Sankies are not male prostitutes!! Prostitutes are upfront about what they want and what they will give you in return.

Its not a new thing, only now they have technology to help them on their way!

Where they live, if they are poor, black, brown, young, old, educated or anything else is not relevant. AZB is completly wrong, being a Sanky is a job and everyone is free to apply. A sanky is someone who is seeking the life style and the goals. You can not class a sanky as a low class, hut dwelling, uneducated, poor kid. I know of Sankies that live in 1000 dollar apartments in Punta Cana, driving sports cars, yes as a result of good pickings. Some i know are married men living with their wives in decent houses that are managers on resorts, holiday representatives etc.

Its the same as the girls, some are seriously telling the guys a load of old rubbish and then go home to their dominican husband with some cash and have a good old laugh about it together. Some just live the good life and enjoy the attention, others are not agressive about it, maybe college educated and smart and come from "good" families, but yes a rich white man could be nice, love is not so important when compared to a comfortable life with a gullible male tourist that doesnt really care if he loves her or not anyway, just wants some arm candy to impress the kids at school.

Its not a Dominican thing, Watch the film "Dirty Dancing", if you have already seen it, watch it again!

This is right on the money. I got played by a guy like this when I was 20. He was an American, not a Dominican, and he got me for spending money, use of my car, staying at my apartment, etc. I came to find out he was doing the same thing with this 40 year old woman. I don't think it's necessarily a "Dominican thing". This board had me thinking that a lot of Dominican guys are sleazy "sanky" types, but I realized upon arrival that yes, there are plenty of those, but there are honest, good men there too. Just like anywhere. I think the problem is that women really let their guard down on vacation, and let's face it, Dominican guys ARE cute. But since I was there with my boyfriend I was just kind of observing the whole scenario, and it was people-watching at its' best. I thought the sankies were pretty obvious! Ladies, you've gotta improve your sleazeball detectors! But yeah, I don't know that all these harsh words generalizing poor Dominican men are warranted. I believe these nasty sankie types exist everywhere, maybe they are more noticeable in DR or maybe there are more of them....? Truthfully the grossest, sleaziest guys I saw while I was there were the white tourists. The dude in the hotel room next to us bringing home hookers and also bringing candy to the groundskeepers' daughter. Ew. Or how about the 3 European guys at a table at Kahuna's with the 14 year old hooker? VOMIT. Wake up! People are just people, there are good and bad everywhere!

 

[Bronxboy]

I think the problem is that women really let their guard down on vacation, and let's face it, Dominican guys ARE cute. But since I was there with my boyfriend I was just kind of observing the whole scenario, and it was people-watching at its' best.

:classic::classic::classic::classic:

 

[donP]

Stiff

What???? I'd be tempted to pay a few bucks for that. :nervous:What's the current rate? Oh wait the guy is dead now.

... and thus quite stiff, so to say... :cheeky:

donP

 

[belgiank]

I agree that it is not DR exclusive but France, Greece and Spain ??? What would the sankies gain ? It mostly happens in tourist destinations where there is a large gap in wealth between tourists and the population.

Been to one of their tourist towns lately? Most waiters, barmen, musicians, whatever are Moroccans, Tunesians, etc... coming their as seasonal workers... and are hired not because of their exceptional qualities, but because they are cheap...

And do you really think there are no poor Spanish, French or Greek guys?

 

[donP]

Ethylology

Scam
Artist
Naive women player
Knickers explorer
Illusionist
Emigration seeker
Sex seller

:bunny:

 

[cobraboy]

In any event, rice and beans offered the consummate example of a sanky. Although Porfirio Rubirosa was not born into poverty, his only occupation in life to to hunt after and marry wealthy women.

He had little formal education, and absolutely no skills off the polo field and away from the bedroom. In other words, he lived off the wealth of women.

His marriages to Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, and Zsa Zsa Gabor made him a very wealthy man.

The perfect sanky in every respect, except of course he wasn't black and certainly not poverty-stricken, at the end.

Sounds like John Heinz-Kerry...:cheeky:

 

[Celt202]

..."Get the papers, get the papers", as Jimmy Two Times from the film "Goodfellas" would say.
...

Jimmy Two Times nails it!

 

[aarhus]

Sankie or not a Sankie

a guy with a gringa, maybe married, maybe they just live together, maybe she comes here on holidays. he may have a job but will make a lot less than she does. he may have only this one gringa, no more. but he has a dominican girl too, sometimes few. pretty girls. his gringa does not have to be old and fat. she may be young. just normal looking girl.
she bought or rented a house/apartment. she bought a car or a pasola and calls it "our car" even if she never drove it in her life. she insist all things are in the name of them both, because she "trusts him".
they may have a baby together. and he has a baby she knows nothing about. they live a normal life. car breaks down often, cars do. so he spends money "fixing it" that is "fixing" the life of his dominican girl and their baby.
they go shopping but somehow they leave shop with more clothes for him than her. she pays because his money was spent on "the car".
when they got married she paid for everything. the suit he wore? that was the first one he ever had. the dress she wore? she paid for it. her cheap engagement ring? she bought it. their wedding bands, his bigger and more expensive? she paid.
when she goes away from DR (he does not have a visa, of course) she brings him clothes, play station, iphone, all that jazz. she wears clothes my mother would like. somehow cannot lose those few more pounds she gained when pregnant. somehow does look kinda mumsy, grey. his dominican girlfriend always has a makeup on, nice clothes and matching shoes.
she will say he is not with her for the visa because he gained no visa indeed. but he moved from a dirt poor barrio where rats bit him at night to a nice house/apartment in a better area. she will say she gives him no money because she gives him no cash indeed. she only pays for his ed hardy style tees, for his gym, for his flashy watch, for his phone, for his camera. she only pays their bills, buys food, finances weekend with his family.

If this guy in your example did not have his Dom family on the side. Basicly lets say he is almost faithfull to his gringa. He likes her. Gets something on the side every now and again. She spends all his money on him. And works even more to produce more and make him happy. Is he then a sankie? Or just a guy who only had this one oppurtunity in his life.

 

[aarhus]

There was a great Dominican movie some years back called Sanky Panky. Very entertaining. It had good music too. It is about a guy from a barrio who goes to Punta Cana to find Gringas. I really enjoyed it.

 

[DMV123]

For me the definition of Sanky was explained on the very first page. The CLEAR element for me is INTENT. They intend to defraud, dupe, steal, lie etc.

Prostitutes - at least they are more honest, give me money I will pretend to be what you want.

Sankies - I will pretend and later you will give me what I want.

AZB describes a typical Sankie. That is not to say all poor men are sankies - NO. But Sankies TEND to be poor and uneducated. Dont shoot the messenger! He is not necessarily eloquent but he is correct.

Are their degrees of Sankies? NO intent is intent! I dont care if you are learning or fell into it. If you behave like a sankie then you are a sankie.

I will not excuse their behavior because the economy is bad, or times are tough. Bull****. I know many poor Dominicans who have far too much pride and values to behave this way. Many poor Dominicans will clean houses or streets before they will behave this way. I have far more respect for them.

And AZB is right - self respecting Dominican despise Sankies!

 

[ExtremeR]

Definition of a Sankie by a Dominican: Low educated, poor young male who either work at a resort or troll the tourist beaches with the ultimate goal of charming a well-off woman for him to cash in. They prefer foreign women as they usually provide cash and a ticket out of the country. They usually barely know how to read and write and just dedicate their time on how to improve their game and body.

Dominicans males (rich and poor) are indoctrinated when growing up that they should be Playboys and fantastic lovers with a reputation to watch. We learn the game early on and take pride on how to take care of our body in order to impress the girls. This does not convert us in Sankies as the majorities of Dominicans also take pride on working hard to earn a living.

A poor Dominican with all the characteristics above does not necessarily have to be a Sankie, neither a poor Dominican who marries an attractive foreign woman have to be a Sankie even if he leaves the country with her. We Dominicans loves light-skinned blondes and guess from what ethnic group is the majority of tourists coming down to DR? Also a poor Dominican working in a resort does not necessarily have to be a Sankie as well. Is the minority but there's actually Dominicanos serios working in the resort trying to make a living of his salary.

What's the difference between a Sankie and a regular Dominican?
A Sankie will have no moral bounds on what he can accomplish based on his charming skills while a regular Dominican knows the moral line and will not cross it. A Sankie is basically a pretty successful sex worker who's primary and only agenda is to get money and/or visa and will not stop at anything in order for him to gain those including homosexual acts even if he is not homosexual himself.

It is clear that a Sankie is a despicable person, the thing is you will only find them at resorts or tourist beaches/town. The typical fresh Dominican you meet in a non-tourist city or town is NOT a Sankie.

 

[AZB]

Ok, I will behave and not make bronxboy's job any more difficult. After all, its a new day and a clean thread.
I again insist that a sankie most likely has to be a black person. why? I had stated earlier, foreign women come here for the forbidden fruit. This is why maybe 1-2% of sankies are of whiter complexion but the 98-99% percent are all blacks.
Example: once a well-to-do dominican guy from santiago somehow got into an argument with a sankie while he was on vacation in playa dorada. It was spring break (semana santa) and the santiago friend of mine was a bit drunk. he was with a very elegant santiago girl (whom the sankies can't get near). I don't know the exact conversation because I was not paying attention at the time but when the conversation got heated up, I started to listen.
Seemed like my friend and his girlfriend were talking to this black sankie who worked in crazymoon disco. He was not an employee but he hung out there dancing with tourist women. I think my friend asked him if he was haitian or something like that. The sankie got offended and said: we black dominicans are not at a disadvantage here like you think we are. We don't live in santiago in your nicer neighborhood we work here where our color has value of money. he said in exact words "este color (moreno) vale cuarto"... tu no sabes cuantas mujeres pagan para estar con nosotros.....con este moreno..... He was saying clearly in anger that this color (black) costs money and you don't know how many women are willing to pay lots of money for it. But he was not just talking about color black, he was talking about being black (african) because a darker skin male without african features is called "indio" or "indiocito". he was clearly upset as he felt inferior to my friend (who was only joking) and looked far more elegant than him. he was also with a girl who wouldn't even look at a sankie. Now notice, the hotels are filled with dominicans from santiago and santo domingo on semana santa vacations but exactly how many of these dominican girls actually pay attention to these sankies (hotel workers)? not a single one. I wonder why?
AZB

 

[AZB]

Also a poor Dominican working in a resort does not necessarily have to be a Sankie as well. Is the minority but there's actually Dominicanos serios working in the resort trying to make a living of his salary.

This is true. the folks who work in the administration office, example: general manager, sub managers, accountants, engineers etc do not have to be sankies. they keep their standards high and actually act professionally at work. The director of the animation department is almost always a super sankie but he is discreet about his adventures. The general managers and other higher up administrators can and, often, do fool around but discreetly. They do it for pure pleasure and not for money. They make good money so they usually pick the cream of the crop women to sleep with.
AZB

 

[Bronxboy]

I had stated earlier, foreign women come here for the forbidden fruit.

Why say forbidden fruit?

You had previously said that they would not be seen with a darker skin person back home BUT this is the norm nowadays and no one gives it a second look.
In NY, I see inter-racial couples all the time.

I do not think the color makes them a sankie. I think their actions do.

 

[sangria]

colour is only important to people who have a problem with it.

colour is not part of the definition of "what is a sanky"

 

[AZB]

Why say forbidden fruit?

You had previously said that they would not be seen with a darker skin person back home BUT this is the norm nowadays and no one gives it a second look.
In NY, I see inter-racial couples all the time.

I do not think the color makes them a sankie. I think their actions do.

You are right and you are also wrong. The whole USA is not a melting point and not all americans from small towns and cities are allowed to date blacks. We have tourists who don't have a single colored or a black person living within 20 miles radius where they live. In suburbs of atlanta, there are hardly any blacks or mexicans in affluent neighborhoods. If a girl there dates a black male, they will stand out in the crowd like colors of Benetton. How often you see jewish girls or italian women dating blacks back home? How many irish women you see dating a black or a typical latino back home? i am not talking about a bank president from argentia living in NY, i am talking about people who are at the same level as the hotel workers in DR (labor class). Dudes, there aren't too many. The poor folks or people in projects do mix but the rest, not as often. Then if you get out of NY and go straight to south, its even less obvious. These women have heard stories from other visiting women, have seen pornos and do desire a black male to try out. they come to this island, sun and sand with a little brugal, some women just lose themselves. remember, lots of the middle aged women haven't had a real sex with a younger guy in years. This is why so many of the women send them money to keep their attention and do what ever it takes to take them away.
Sex, I mean love is blinding.
We have a good number of poor tigres in santiago who are whiter in color and have white features yet they are not in demand on the beaches and resorts of DR. they are not desired by the women so this is why so few white sankies in this island. This is all simple observation, no rocket science is required here.
AZB

 

[AZB]

colour is only important to people who have a problem with it.

colour is not part of the definition of "what is a sanky"

color is important because this is what public wants and this is what they pay for. lets take a sample of 100 sankies and round them up from the resorts of DR. You will notice that a majority of them come from far away villages and towns yet you will not be too many white sankies doing the tricks. Why is that? the poor white boys don't like easy money?
AZB

 

[AnnaC]

the poor white boys don't like easy money?
AZB

so exactly how many dirt poor white boys are in the DR? What's the population? I don't mean light I mean white