Do-it-Yourself Permanent Residency Renewal Procedure

Cdn_Gringo

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DGM is not known for their "flexibility". While anything is possible and you can sometimes luck out, as a general approach, it's usually best to give them exactly what they ask for so as to avoid running up against an official who isn't as "flexible" as the one before them mid-process.
 

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DGM is not known for their "flexibility". While anything is possible and you can sometimes luck out, as a general approach, it's usually best to give them exactly what they ask for so as to avoid running up against an official who isn't as "flexible" as the one before them mid-process.

Yeah, we decided to hold off, get the passports renewed and then get it done. Giving them "exactly what they as for" is wise.
 

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DGM is not known for their "flexibility". While anything is possible and you can sometimes luck out, as a general approach, it's usually best to give them exactly what they ask for so as to avoid running up against an official who isn't as "flexible" as the one before them mid-process.
You are absolutely correct. As a general rule, I always ensure that the passport extends beyond the renewed residency period.
 
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william webster

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Where do we do that?

Slide some pesos through to the kiosk in the waiting room?
Or give it to the x-ray technician
 

botemon

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Hi Folks! We are starting to lay the groundwork for our 4th Permanent renewal to take place in December. From a previous poster, this link ( https://www.migracion.gob.do/Menu/SubList/31 ) lays out the instructions........I spoze subject to ongoing change. RUMOR has it that they are no longer offering the option of 10 year renewals, which we would have been eligible for. Can anyone substantiate this rumor? Also we used to take our "good friend" (not a lawyer) with us who could speak fluent Spanish and helped us maneuver through the process. I understand that this is also NOT an option anymore. Truth? Changed? I know....over ten years here and our Spanish is "marginal" ....we get by OK but not good enough!!! Bad dog!! Aaaarrrrgggghh!!!!
 

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The 10 year is called Definitiva and I know of someone that got his last week. If you've had your permanent for 10 years you can request the change, it isn't automatic. Do a search on here and you'll find the text of the letter I posted that is the first step to request it. You'll also find all the requirements. Don't waste time though, it's a process that takes several weeks.

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Cdn_Gringo

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For definitiva, you'll need to request a change of residency by way of a letter directed to the Director General, submit that and receive approval before you begin your renewal process. The approval can take a bit of time.

good luck.
 

bennymack

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Hi Folks! We are starting to lay the groundwork for our 4th Permanent renewal to take place in December. From a previous poster, this link ( https://www.migracion.gob.do/Menu/SubList/31 ) lays out the instructions........I spoze subject to ongoing change. RUMOR has it that they are no longer offering the option of 10 year renewals, which we would have been eligible for. Can anyone substantiate this rumor? Also we used to take our "good friend" (not a lawyer) with us who could speak fluent Spanish and helped us maneuver through the process. I understand that this is also NOT an option anymore. Truth? Changed? I know....over ten years here and our Spanish is "marginal" ....we get by OK but not good enough!!! Bad dog!! Aaaarrrrgggghh!!!!

Hi Botemon. We will be doing this soon as well. We aren't going to request the 10 year. Maybe next time. Any tips are helpful on the process you experience. Thanks!
 

bennymack

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All our passports have 18 months on them now. We are starting our process to renew. We have run into a question on this -
Is a new legalized marriage certificate required to renew?

We don't see it required in the directions but it is in the digital application form for uploading documents. We are wondering if the digital application form has all the options for everyone regardless of what type of renewal you are doing.

To be clear - we are renewing the blue card "Residencia Permanente (RP-1)"

Thanks for you help.
 

botemon

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In a couple weeks (30 days before Perm expiration) we will begin the Perm renal process. (Too late for citizenship application). We have our "ducks in a row" however I have a question for those who have "done it themselves". We did our last renewal ourselves, however because I am a "bad dog" and speak enough Spanish to get by" we brought a good Dominican friend of ours with us that helped tremendously with translation as we moved through the process. I "heard a rumor" quite a while ago that you can no longer "bring a friend" and that an attorney MUST assist you with the process even though it is for translation only. Can anyone confirm this "new rule"? The bast price I could find for renewal is $1100.00 US for two of us. Everything included!! Still a $hit load of money! Thanks in advance.
 

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We are done. Renewed for another 4 years. The card is now white - "Residencia Permanente (RP-1)" We did it ourselves and total cost was RD$17,700 (US$354) per person. It was pretty straight forward -

Start at the website (https://www.migracion.gob.do/Menu/Index/19). All the requirements are there and most of the things, we already had. We did get some help getting the CERTIFICACIÓN DE NO ANTECEDENTES PENALES just because of our busy schedule but in the past we did this ourselves and it's not hard.

Once you have scanned all of the required documents into the website, wait a few days and a message will come up on the website (possibly you will receive an email too but don't count on it and check yourself) saying it's time to bring the original documents to Migration. There is a page you will print and bring with your documents.

At Migracion you have to now enter the main door on the opposite side of the parking lot. Upon entering, go to the desk and get a number. Then enter and wait for your number to show up on the TV screens. When it does, go to whatever window it says. They will want to see your documents. You will say goodbye to your expired residency card and be given a paper and told to wait while they check all your documents.

Assuming all is in order, you will hear your name called from window 1. This is where you pay and will be told to go to have the medical exam. By the way, someone told me they don't always ask for the medical exam. I don't know if that is true but if they don't ask you...you're lucky. If you are late renewing, it will be 600 ps per month. We were 2 months late.

We left and immediately went to have our medical exam. It is located Centro Medico San Lucas. It's on Calle Josefa Perdomo between crossing streets Av. Pasteur and Calle Garcia Godoy. It wasn't hard to find. Once you get your medical exam done, you come back in two weeks. The medical exam is just like the previous ones.

After two weeks, return with the paper that has your receipt stapled to it and you will get a ticket (number). When your number shows on the TV screens, go to whatever window it says and they will check to make sure everything is ready.

A quick check and they will tell you to wait for your name to be called for the photo. These names were be called from the windows to the right of the doors in the middle (which you go through for the photo - the same as the past). It took a while for our name to be called.

When called, they will give a pass to enter that area. They seemed to take 4-5 people at a time, trying to keep families together. They take two photos, one looking straight ahead and one looking to the right. They also take your finger prints. Both hands and thumbs. Once this is done, you leave and wait.

For us, it was only about 10 min. and they called us to window 11 or 12 to sign and get our card.

On the first visit we paid for everything - RD$17700 for each adult. This includes 1200 ps. for the 2 months late. Second visit...no charges.

Cedula renewal - Like past years, we immediately went to get our cedula renewed. It was the same process as in the past and took about 1 hour, costs us RD$4000 each.

So we are good for another 4 years. Really, the process is pretty easy now. Just takes time.

Hope this helps!
 
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bennymack

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In a couple weeks (30 days before Perm expiration) we will begin the Perm renal process. (Too late for citizenship application). We have our "ducks in a row" however I have a question for those who have "done it themselves". We did our last renewal ourselves, however because I am a "bad dog" and speak enough Spanish to get by" we brought a good Dominican friend of ours with us that helped tremendously with translation as we moved through the process. I "heard a rumor" quite a while ago that you can no longer "bring a friend" and that an attorney MUST assist you with the process even though it is for translation only. Can anyone confirm this "new rule"? The bast price I could find for renewal is $1100.00 US for two of us. Everything included!! Still a $hit load of money! Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure what the answer is. I did notice on my second visit that they had a new system which made everyone enter by one door. And then when we entered the big room with all the windows, they wanted to see that we each had a ticket. So maybe this means that helpers are no longer allowed (of course this could change).

When I saw your post, I decided to write out my experience in detail. It's from memory but it may help you and those who have limited Spanish. Best of luck!
 

botemon

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Follow up! As some have noted, you may now “upload” the required documentation to the DGM website after you “sign-up”. The process was not too painful at all. Certificate of Buena Conducta (which you can print out and pay at home now), Cedula (both sides) Perm Residencia (both sides) and a scan of the front page of your passport. Two photos passport size (2X2). All files in JPEG format.
Once everything is uploaded and accepted (no mistakes) you wait. I uploaded both my wife’s info as well as my own on the same day…..within an hour of each other. Mine lagged behind hers for almost two weeks. Whatever. Once you are notified via the website of acceptance, you get your money, ($16,500 RD each), two copies each of the above, plus originals and the 2X2 photos, and head for the immigration office. FORTUNALTLY our district is in Puerto Plata so we did not have to go all the way to Santo Domingo! (We live on the north coast). The POP office is small and very accommodating. Pay the $16,500 and surrender you perm card. They print out a factura and the medical order and yer done. We walked two blocks to the medical clinic and had a pretty thorough medical evaluation. Now we go home again and wait some more. About 2 to 3 weeks later we received notice to go to Santo Domingo to pick up the cards. We have company right now so we won’t do that for a couple more weeks. Stay tuned! WAY easer than in the past!! …and as always…..your mileage may vary. Cheers!
 

botemon

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We were able to travel to the capital on Wednesday to receive our 4th Permanent res cards. This was after we submitted everything online and utilized the migration office in POP for payment and medical as described above.
We arrived at Migration (SDQ) at 8:08am Thursday, presented our receipts of payment in the lobby, and got a number. Number came up on the board and we proceeded to window specified. Turned in our receipts, they took them and asked us to sit back down. About 1 hour later, they called our name and were escorted through “the doors” for picture, palm and thump prints. This took about 10 min or so. We were told to go back and sit down. About another 40 min or so, our names were called and we signed for and received our cards. Total time spent at migration was about 2.5 hours. No hidden costs! Lessons learned. We stayed with friends in the Zona Colonial and took a taxi to migration. As you know traffic on the Malicon is awful, so with a plan of arriving at migration before 8:00am, arriving 15 min later, there were about 50 people in front of us. The line moved fast but I think had we arrived earlier, my guess is that we would have spent about an hour there for the entire process. Other than that, the process was MUCH LESS painful with the electronic submittal of documents and payment and physical in POP. Only one trip the capital!
We took a taxi to the Cedula office and arrived there about 11:20am or so. We spent about 1.5 hours there. They were having “technical difficulties”, and the place was packed mostly with Haitians (as always, all very nice folks) doing whatever they were doing with stacks of paperwork. Cost for Cedula renewal was 4K pesos each. Relatively painless.
Streamline suggestions….. (If I had any power to give them). Why do the palm and fingerprints? They have had them on file for 10 years now. I do not think fingerprints change, except if you dip them in acid right? Submitting pictures (electronically before any approval, in a 2x2 format as required. They should have the ability to manufacture the cards a head of time with the pictures submitted if everything is already approved. So one picture is taken from the side now. I can do that!!! If they could streamline those two things, then all one would have to do is pick up the card, sign for receipt….and go!!! Fix the PA system! Ra ra rauuummmm)
When eligible, you have to apply for citizenship two years before you perm expires and we have been eligible for this for about 4 years now. We did not quite make it for a ten year renewal (about 9 months short of 10 years). So……In the next two years we will get this citizenship thing done and no more of this stuff!!! As always…….your mileage may vary!!!
Oh….and THANK YOU SO MUCH DR1! Could not have done this without all of your help folks!!!
 

william webster

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Similar situation to yours... mine is
Just missed the ‘definitiva ‘...
Lucked into the citizenship application....passed

Waiting to be declared.... decreed
 

CFA123

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Similar situation to yours... mine is
Just missed the ‘definitiva ‘...
Lucked into the citizenship application....passed

Waiting to be declared.... decreed

William, what has your investigation of the tax implications of your citizenship shown?

It seems I’ve read there is a tax on worldwide investment income? Also, does it complicate inheritance of property? Perhaps it’s a non-issue, but it’s something I need to get up to date on before I can seriously consider it.

*Realized too late I should have started a new “citizenship and taxes” thread.
 

william webster

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Like any country , I expect the tax rules equally to residents and citizens... the biggest difference between the two is the voting right.

As for inheritance.... I only have one family of two children....
there should be no change for me there.

My current plan is in motion - transferring as much as possible while I am alive
Avoids any confusion and can be cheaper in some ways
 

Cdn_Gringo

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For sure. Anything you hold when you die is taxed and subject to probate. That which you have given away before then, free and clear. Easy to understand but hard for some to accept and actually do without knowing the exact "drop dead date".