Dominican Arrested Twice for Deportation

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Two weeks ago I inadvertently stepped into one of these "round-ups" right in front of my building where two young men were running from the police. Police in a small pick-up truck and one or two motors right behind them. The police got out of cab, collarded
the two guys and put them in that back of the truck with about 4 or 5 others. All happened in a minute. There was/is NO asking for ID or checking civil rights issues . We live in the DR. We live with their rules. That's just the way it is.
Then, the strangest thing...police comes up to me and says something like- good morning, sorry about that and have a good day.:)
Dead on point Bro.
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Some of these posters up in here are talking out the side of their neck with blinders on‼️
Anyone who says being locked up falsely in 🇩🇴 is no big deal cause they get out needs to go through the experience for themselves and then come back here and post if they feel the same way about it.
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SMH
 

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I have heard that the "deportation bus" scam on the North Coast is apparently well known and has been noted here in the past. The bus stops in a remote area (generally past Maimon) and those fortunate enough to have money pay up and are left stranded there.
No comment on this ?

Windeguy- this must warm the cockles of your heart. Round'em up and send'em back - unless they can pay to get offa da bus
 
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All she has to do if she is a citizen with a Cedula is turn it to the back where it says where you vote. That is PROOF of citizenship................
Your statement is incorrect.
Figure it out for yourself my man.
You are the one that is DEAD WRONG my friend. On the back of ANY Cedula issued to a Dominican is the place where you VOTE. Anyone that votes is a Dominican Citizen............
I am very much alive and right‼️

@SKY someone else has mentioned that you often post about things that you have no knowledge about.
This is another one of those situations....

WAIT FOR IT ‼️

"Citizens are issued with a yellow cédula de identidad y electoral which indicates their polling station on the reverse. Minors, military personnel, police officers, and foreigners are issued a green cédula de identidad which identifies their inability to vote on the reverse ("NO VOTA") in addition to the reason why they are unable to vote.

Changing cédula types (for example, a civilian enlisting in the military or a minor becoming an adult) does not change the holder's cédula number."


Now can everyone tell Mr. Sky since he obviously does not know:
Are Military Personnel & Police Officers for the Dominican Republic citizens of the 🇩🇴❓

Facts are a terrible thing for those trying make arguments against them.
 

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What is your reason for "calling someone out" on this post?
With all due respect to your post there was no "calling out someone". The three word phrase as defined by the Cambridge dictionary means: "to criticize someone or ask to explain their action". IMO Astucia did neither of the the two. DR1 is an open and public forum where posters such as Mr. Windy may point out their stance on important issues regarding the DR. He has taken a strong position on immigration, and several other issues. That is what this forum board is all about. Does the Astucia post violate any of the TOS of DR1 ? Does his post "critique or ask Mr. Windy for an explanation"? I think not.
 
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SKY

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I am very much alive and right‼️

@SKY someone else has mentioned that you often post about things that you have no knowledge about.
This is another one of those situations....

WAIT FOR IT ‼️

"Citizens are issued with a yellow cédula de identidad y electoral which indicates their polling station on the reverse. Minors, military personnel, police officers, and foreigners are issued a green cédula de identidad which identifies their inability to vote on the reverse ("NO VOTA") in addition to the reason why they are unable to vote.

Changing cédula types (for example, a civilian enlisting in the military or a minor becoming an adult) does not change the holder's cédula number."


Now can everyone tell Mr. Sky since he obviously does not know:
Are Military Personnel & Police Officers for the Dominican Republic citizens of the 🇩🇴❓

Facts are a terrible thing for those trying make arguments against them.
Blah, Blah, Blah,

I have been a citizen of the Dominican Republic since 2004. LONGER than ANYONE currently posting on this board. What are your credentials????

And the post below is 100% accurate............











Your statement is incorrect.
Figure it out for yourself my man.
You are the one that is DEAD WRONG my friend. On the back of ANY Cedula issued to a Dominican is the place where you VOTE. Anyone that votes is a Dominican Citizen............






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All she has to do if she is a citizen with a Cedula is turn it to the back where it says where you vote. That is PROOF of citizenship................
The issue really is: Profiling. Even IF she is a citizen WHEN and WHERE does she get the opportunity to "turn the cedula to the back" and show it? OP stated she is a citizen and has proof. Have you ever been up close and seen how they do a round up. Do they say" Good morning I would love to see your papers?" Roundup word prolly comes from cattle ranching. Only a guess on my part.
 

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I have heard that the "deportation bus" scam on the North Coast is apparently well known and has been noted here in the past. The bus stops in a remote area (generally past Maimon) and those fortunate enough to have money pay up and are left stranded there.
I heard a similar story, but as I have no way of verifying it I didn't mention it. I'm told that Haitians in south coast areas are taken to the border on the bus, then given the opportunity to pay 10,000 pesos. If they can do so, they are taken back on the return journey to Santo Domingo! Sounds a bit unlikely to me.
 
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Astucia

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I heard a similar story, but as I have no way of verifying it I didn't mention it. I'm told that Haitians in south coast areas are taken to the border on the bus, then given the opportunity to pay 10,000 pesos. If they can do so, they are taken back on the return journey to Santo Domingo! Sounds a bit unlikely to me.
A Haitian acquaintance told me this happened to them on the North Coast. I have no reason to think they were lying. They were lucky enough to have enough money ( not 10,000 pesos BTW) to get off the bus.
 
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I heard a similar story, but as I have no way of verifying it I didn't mention it. I'm told that Haitians in south coast areas are taken to the border on the bus, then given the opportunity to pay 10,000 pesos. If they can do so, they are taken back on the return journey to Santo Domingo! Sounds a bit unlikely to me.
In this particular thread, facts are simply ignored. So rumor is welcome.
The issue really is: Profiling. Even IF she is a citizen WHEN and WHERE does she get the opportunity to "turn the cedula to the back" and show it? OP stated she is a citizen and has proof. Have you ever been up close and seen how they do a round up. Do they say" Good morning I would love to see your papers?" Roundup word prolly comes from cattle ranching. Only a guess on my part.
Exactly Brother and since some do not understand that you can be a police officer or military and have a cedula that says "NO VOTA" that fact alone would not indicated they are not a citizen. But at least they can revert to their military or police if they got caught up in the situation.
What are your credentials????
Intelligence. The ability to read and comprehend what I am reading and the ability to think critically. And I post facts about what I know. And make my opinions clear. I was not aware that DR1 required anything more than that.

Asked and answered ‼️
 
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Noticia SIN made a story about this, not so much the specific case of the OP but of Dominicans in general who look Haitian and are being arrested during the illegal immigrants deportation scheme.

There are some cases that the blame doesn't fall on the authorities at all while with others it's debatable. For example. a woman appears in the video claiming that her son was arrested and he hasn't been able to produce any documentation as per his ID. In this case it's a little different from what is presented in th OP, because at least she is able to show her legitimate cédula and once verified is let go. This guy can't produce anything. As much as the woman try to blame the authorities, if you are Dominican and never bother to register your kid, is it truly suprising that eventually not having official documents such as a birth certificate or an official cédula will create some sort of problems? On that case, her laziness towards registering her son is the reason he couldn't produce any type of documents to prove his identity. Authorities aren't fortune tellers.

I think if the authorities carry with them a portable scanner that immediately connects the data scanned from a cédula with the data bank in SD, there would be no reason for arresting Dominicans that look like a typical Haitian. The legitimacy (or not) of every cédula would be verified on the spot.



One of the issues is the number of fake documents roaming around and they look legitimate just by looking at them. The following is of Santiago's mayor showing several fake Dominican cédulas confiscated from Haitiana by authorities.


Here is another example of a Haitian with a real Haitian cédula equivalence and a fake Dominican cédula. Even his name changes. Then that guy is caught for deportation and insist he is Dominican with a legitimate Dominican cédula.

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Noticia SIN made a story about this, not so much the specific case of the OP but of Dominicans in general who look Haitian and are being arrested during the illegal immigrants deportation scheme.
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I think if the authorities carry with them a portable scanner that immediately connects the data scanned from a cédula with the data bank in SD, there would be no reason for arresting Dominicans that look like a typical Haitian. The legitimacy (or not) of every cédula would be verified on the spot.
Thank you for confirming what I have said. And I agree that a portable scanner would be an excellent idea.
 

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My kid's older brother was arrested a few months ago. He has a legal cedula that he paid for. Still, they kept him overnight.

I also saw a tictok video of a black American who was arrested in a roundup, even though he had an American passport.

Um... hold on a sec. A legal cedula he paid for??
 
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